team storm because its the less of two evils

I am going with Storm team.

I think Storm will beat Emma. Rachel and Psylocke can take on Magik. Monet can fight the Cuckoo's. Which leaves tempus and Dazzler.

Considering Team Storm have 3 Omega-Level Mutants, and the daughter of the Phoenix, my vote goes to Storm...

Really, the only actual threat Team Emma have is Magik and Emma, possibly...

Storm will probably be enough to beat Emma

Psylocke can defeat Magik

Rachel and Monet can take on the Cuckoos'

Storm can beat Kitty...

And Jubilee is probably enough to beat Dazzler and Rachel may have to brought in to to defeat Tempus...

So my vote: Team Storm

This is kind of silly and on the wrong board.....but really...Tempus stomps.

Instant time freeze....

If not Magik stomps. teleport to space.

The Cuckoo's just have to delay a Rachel/Psy/M instant mind shutdown by the three seconds it takes for either of these things to happen.

no storm team's is more good then the others

Doesn't mean they win a fight.... Tempus froze the Avengers.

tempus has no psychic shields and trust me no one wants to fight storm because storm kicks A$$. M had psychic shields so she can stop emma and the cuckoos. psylocke can beat dazzler. its might take storms whole team to beat magik though

The Cuckoo's provide Psychic shielding for their team. Really all they have to do is protect Eva, even with Rachel and Psylocke Storm's team isn't beating Cuckoo's in 5 seconds. It takes half of that for Eva to freeze time.They cant stop that

Team frost anyday, cuckoos and emma will psychic lockdown the opposite team for a while, Dazzler will dazzle em or kill em with a friggin laser, if everything else fails magik will just teleport them to the sun

TEAM FROST

kitty is not included on both teams. karima shapandar is on storm's team. 6 on 6 match

Not really a fair fight and I hate to but I give it to Storm. Emma is broken, Dazzler is unknown as she has not done anything under Bendis' pen but cut her hair and Illyana could not take them all on herself. Tempus might give a good row but for me I only consider the three non-students X-men.

the fight is morals off and everyone is fully powered.

Storm's team for a majority. They have a lot of TP fire power, a couple of blitzers (Monet and Jubilee), and a a superior tactic and strategic mind (Storm) to coordinate their attacks (among other advantages). But I agree that Magik and Tempus could be game changers, especially morals of and everyone fully powered. It becomes more a quick draw with this type of battle setting.

Don't forget that Emma doesnt really have her TP anymore, she just utilizes the TP of the 3 cuckoos so TBH I think rachel and psyclocke (and maybe monet no idea if she is a strong telepath) together could mind rape team emma instantly. They have raw power and skill. Then the rest goes as previous posters have said

Come on guys....really?

Move 1 - both teams see each other

Move 2- Rachel/Psylocke go for mind attack.

Move 3- Cuckoo's attempt to defend.

Move 4- Tempus panics and freezes time.

This fight last 5 seconds. Psylocke and Rachel together can beat the cuckoo's sure....but the Cuckoo's arent losing in 5 seconds. Monet won't even have time to realize she should be helping with telepathy.

Team Frost. Tempus and Magik can be team busters. Illyana can fight whole armies by herself. No one is more powerful then a blood lusted fully powered Darkchilde here.

topic stipulates all parties are full powered....Emma has her TP fully operational...no way Rachael and Psylocke are breaking through both the Cuckoos and Emma instantly. Emma has beater Rachel before anyway. But even assuming team Storms psychics would win, it would NOT be fast enough for them to stop Tempus from freezing time. For one thing, we don't know how much extra control she has over her powers since she came back from her few years in the future....but even before that she was capable of completely shutting down the avengers, and that was before her training even started.

Tempus wins it for team Frost as long as the Cuckoos and Emma can hold off Rachel and Betsy for 2 seconds

psylocke and magik are both TP attacks resistant.

does karima still have sentinel powers?

I think team storm because of Storm, Rachel, and Psylocke. Magik is the biggest threat on Emma's team, but that's it.

I voted for team's Storm, but I like Emma's team as well.

between Magik and Tempus I think Team Emma has this

@alias99: I agree. And I think M is a big factor as well due to her speed and striking power.

Team storm for the win -_- . You guys know storm ain't got time for that little children team emma is on.

your user name shows your bias :P

Team Storm. Team Storm can think and act faster so before Tempus can even stop time, she's already struck by a psyhic attack or lightning.

@theamazingimmortalman: No i'm not bias and you should not call people things you can't back up.I believe storm's team has a chance at a win.

@stormweatherwitchgoddessqueenx: What's Storm's team answer for Magik or Tempus?

Neither Magik nor Tempus have TP resistance, and both have human range durabililty. M or vamp Jubilee could speed blitz them or they can be shut down with TP technically. On quite a few levels there are some quick draw elements for this fight, but I think the odds favor's Storm team.

@theamazingimmortalman: Ask thunderbolt30 -_- and for me storm's team is the answer if everyone is working together.

Storm is witchy powerful but she has her limits.

I'm with Emma Frost

@chiq: oh please Illyana and Eva will both go down harder than Cyc/Magik in UXN #21.

OK, we need to bring this to the real battle forums!

I love how people lowball a fully powered no morals Hell Lord. I can post scans low balling all the other characters.

No one is as powerful as Darkchilde going all out here. No one has her feats by far....If this was vs Mephisto ( whom Magik humiliated as well) everyone would say stomp.

She just never goes all out, she tries her best to not to lose control because a Hell Lord wouldn't fit into the x-men stories. When she does go all out Inferno happens.

Her powerset trumps everyone here be far fully powered. Reality warping, demonic armies, magic, feats of super strength, healing, necromancy, power cancellation, mind control , auto armor, soul attacks, hell fire,and time and space manipulation, etc...

No one has here the power of her rouges gallery whom she fights one on one (not as part of a team)

Morals off she teleports their heads off. Ports them to the sun. She travels back in time and kills them all.etc...

Magik does have TP immunity or a high level of resistance at least.

Also a fully powered Magik can tangle with Sym ( her main rival) who is above Jubillie in strength

That out of context scan was Magik with malfunctioning powers. a Fully powered Magik can't be killed by Dormammu. We have a Darkchilde at her best here.

I know magik is immune to tp manipulations and reading but is she immune to psychic blasts or psychic knives? just curious.

I don't think she is immune any more. Wasn't she effected via Jean's (or Xavier's cant recall atm) TP during BotA?

oh yeah, she was one of the mutants that were telepathically attacked by one of the cuckoos in the uncanny x-men's canteen.

Team Frost

Emma was also able to effect her (Magik) astral form during her trip into Legion's mind and canon has shown her durability (even in Limbo) does not fluctuate. These women aren't playing either and have far more raw power and tactical skill than Emma's team. This is almost a stomp on their favor.

LOL how can that team have more raw power then Emmas team when Magik can do anything warp reality in Limbo. Thats one of the most biased statements I've seen. They have more raw power and stomps on Emma's team in Limbo? More tactical skill? Magik played all of the X-men when she wanted to get her revenge on the Elder Gods. Tell me one person on that line up who is a better puppet master then Magik?

Limbo's magic trapping and turning a Phoenix powered Rachel into a puppet

Sunspot saying Magik can do anything she wants in her realm

creating the x-mansion w/ a thought...

depowering a whole army. It says she creates all the rules of the dimension....

in inferno rachel got out of that situation, you only posted some of the panels. in what if the x-men lost inferno, it was Rachel who saved the world.

STORM'S TEAM ADVANTAGE:

1. All are veteran fighters and tacticians.

2. Two telepaths trained by emma herself, one by jean.

3. Rachel is currently the most powerful telepath in the planet.

4.M, Karima and jubes move really fast

5. storm can summon lightning in a blink

6. Rachel can do psi burst powerful enough to knock down everyone in a blink( this would include her team mates too since it is a psi burst)

7. Rachel and Psylocke are immune to warping of reality time and space.

8. Rachel can chronoskim

FIREPOWER: RACHEL, STORM, PSYLOCKE, JUBES

EMMA's Team advantage

1. Eva's powers can freeze her enemies (at least most of them)

2. emma and the cuckoos can be immune to psychic attacks

3. Dazzler can blind them with her light giving time for tempus to freeze them

4. Darckchilde could be really powerful and destroy everyone IF she'd be able to bring everyone to LIMBO.

5. Magik can teleport

6. PSI POWER: EMMA, 3 CUCKOOS

CARE TO ADD MORE? ....

I think it would also be interesting to have psi katana vs soul sword fight.

@darthphoenix: I don't think that was a what if comic ,that was an Excalibur comic tie in during inferno iirc. Everyone including Meggan and Brian got affected. Rachel got turned into a puppet and Kurt helped her change back after he burned a book of spells held by one of Magik's minons..

If this was a normal Magik vs the other team then yes, I'd agree.. it would be a good fight. The biggest threat would definately be Rachel. But Emma and Cuckoos should be able to hold her long enough for Illyana to bring in the fire power. she has access to all her powers and resources in this battle.....which means she has access to her armor, all her spells, demon armies etc...

Another thing to note. Magik teleports teammates out of harms way all the time. She has one of the best reactions here. She's certainly the most mobile and can teleport out of harm's way in a blink of an eye too and one port is all she needs to travel back in time to end them.

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Magik would also be able to teledismember and send in an army demons with different powers. so even without Limbo that could turn into 6 vs 6 thousand.

Miss marvel can't fly out, the demons drag her back down

Demons with the transmode virus can infect others

Sym and co would be a handful by themselves

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Magik made me hesitate but I am giving this to Team Storm. Experience alone would place Emma's team at a disadvantage.

I feel like no one here has properly explained how anyone gets past time freezing.

Team Storm wins an extended fight sure, they've got the raw power, team work and experience. But why does this fight last longer then 5 seconds?

@roddy010: ahhh I was gonna post this lolol

Rachel. People always forget that her true mutant power is not tk/tp, those are powers she inherited from being a Grey with an active X-gene, her mutant power is time manipulation and she has shown that she can manipulate it to a certain degree outside of astral projection, as she has shown to be able to jump ahead of time to avoid attacks, at least ten seconds and is not really affected by temporal distortions which is why when a timeline she went to and grew old in was erased she was not erased with it and was just tossed into the time stream until the end of time. long after the Phoenix had left her, she used the last of that and died during the future adventures of her parents. Her time related powers allowed her to see the real past of 616 regardless of the HOM spell that altered history. So without PIS Rachel should be able to get past time freezing. due to PIS not stopping her from remembering what her real mutant power is.

The only thing i'll say here is that while Rachel clearly has been shown to be able to avoid the negation or rewriting of timelines in cannon she has no feats of avoiding a frozen area of a timeline.

Otherwise if there is even doubt that she can be caught in a localized time distortion then Rachel Grey is probably powerful enough to go toe to toe with the other team on her own unless Dazzler is being written as a threat alongside Magik.

@koays: The Uncanny team was able to function inside Tempus time bubble. Magik ported them in there...(Emma didn't have TP at the time so it's not a mental projection in Tempus head)You can see the swirling effect of her port surrounding the 3. Strange was able to do the same thing IRCC. So people with time powers might be able to counter Eva's bubble. Not sure if Rachel can do the same thing though...but Rachels team isnt beating Emma's team plus the armies of Limbo as back up.