I know it's too early for the X-Men to come back together again, but let's say Schism does end. Do you think that the X-Men should come back together or do you think that they should stay apart even after Schism is over?
I personally want them back together, because even though I enjoy the new relationships developed between the characters on different sides, I want to see the older relationships again, like the relationship between Colossus, Wolverine and Nightcrawler (even though 616 Nightcrawler is dead) and Storm, Dazzler and Psylocke.
X-Men
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The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.
Who wants the X-Men back together again?
Yeah! That would be great to see!I want all the x-men to be united again, with Storm leading. : )
I hope not. At least, not for a long time. There are too many problems with the Utopia based teams that almost killed off my love for the X-Men. If it weren't for X-Factor & X-Men Legacy then I would have given up altogether. So I prefer things the way they are now, so I can enjoy more X-Men stories without the whole Utopia debacle.
they will reunite. but both sides really need to hit rock bottom. casualties and the destrucion of their homes. its the x men against the world in the long run.I agree. I think the only way that the X-Men will come back together is if both sides have lost so much, such as the destruction of the school or hopefully, the destruction of Utopia and they will have to reunite to make a new place for all the mutants to feel safe again.
@xerox_kitty said:
I hope not. At least, not for a long time. There are too many problems with the Utopia based teams that almost killed off my love for the X-Men. If it weren't for X-Factor & X-Men Legacy then I would have given up altogether. So I prefer things the way they are now, so I can enjoy more X-Men stories without the whole Utopia debacle.
I agree. To me, Utopia was a stupid, stupid idea from the start, and I'm actually liking the fact that Schism brought most of my favourite characters out of Utopia and back to the real world. I do think that the idea of the X-Men splitting up because of philosophical differences is still interesting, even though the Schism story arc itself was rather shoddily written. I do hope that they stay separated for a good while.
slim down the roster numbers,get rid of the excess characters and have the core X-Men reunite....I'd like that
@MyraMyraMyra said:
@xerox_kitty said:
I hope not. At least, not for a long time. There are too many problems with the Utopia based teams that almost killed off my love for the X-Men. If it weren't for X-Factor & X-Men Legacy then I would have given up altogether. So I prefer things the way they are now, so I can enjoy more X-Men stories without the whole Utopia debacle.
I agree. To me, Utopia was a stupid, stupid idea from the start, and I'm actually liking the fact that Schism brought most of my favourite characters out of Utopia and back to the real world. I do think that the idea of the X-Men splitting up because of philosophical differences is still interesting, even though the Schism story arc itself was rather shoddily written. I do hope that they stay separated for a good while.
Yeah, I like the idea of having two teams under different philosophies. It's not that different from when Cable tuned the New Mutants into the first X-Force (they had differences with the X-Men's philosophies ;) Plus, dividing the books means that you can pick & choose according to your own tastes (although I'm genuinely surprised at how many people prefer Uncanny X-Men to Wolverine & The X-Men). It was just the way it was done. Schism was drawn out & dreadful. But I'm a lot happier with the state of things in the aftermath of Schism.
@cattlebattle said:
slim down the roster numbers,get rid of the excess characters and have the core X-Men reunite....I'd like that
I guess looking at that angle, I really didn't like the whole Utopia thing either. I mean, it's basically going to be a repeat of what happened with Genosha with 16 million mutants being killed on one island because of a missile strike, so how would putting so many mutants on one island help things? I know that they are trying to protect the mutants from more decimation, but putting half of the world's mutants on an island that could be targeted by anyone is sort of risky.@MyraMyraMyra said:
@xerox_kitty said:
I hope not. At least, not for a long time. There are too many problems with the Utopia based teams that almost killed off my love for the X-Men. If it weren't for X-Factor & X-Men Legacy then I would have given up altogether. So I prefer things the way they are now, so I can enjoy more X-Men stories without the whole Utopia debacle.
I agree. To me, Utopia was a stupid, stupid idea from the start, and I'm actually liking the fact that Schism brought most of my favourite characters out of Utopia and back to the real world. I do think that the idea of the X-Men splitting up because of philosophical differences is still interesting, even though the Schism story arc itself was rather shoddily written. I do hope that they stay separated for a good while.
Yeah, I like the idea of having two teams under different philosophies. It's not that different from when Cable tuned the New Mutants into the first X-Force (they had differences with the X-Men's philosophies ;) Plus, dividing the books means that you can pick & choose according to your own tastes (although I'm genuinely surprised at how many people prefer Uncanny X-Men to Wolverine & The X-Men). It was just the way it was done. Schism was drawn out & dreadful. But I'm a lot happier with the state of things in the aftermath of Schism.
Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with the X-Men splitting at all, especially if it allows more storytelling with each character like how the X-Men were split up during the 90s and there were so many great stories being told from all sides, I just had a problem with how Schism was written. If it was stated in the story that Wolverine made this decision because he killed his kids, then Wolverine's stance would have made more sense and maybe if someone else like Storm or Beast had been the one to take the position about not turning kids into soldiers, then the story would have also made more sense. Schism just didn't flesh out the story very well and it has left me feeling really torn about the whole split. To be honest, I wanted Schism to last at least a year or two so that way this event won't seem like a waste of time and actually develop some growth within the characters, but I do want the characters to actually make up with each other and become friends again in the end since I loved the relationships between the X-Men and I was sad to see those relationships broken.
@Rabbitearsblog: In the 90's they created new books and it was the Genesis of a new way of publishing the X-Men. A couple of decades late they have Re:Genesis, but somehow they didn't quite catch the same magic of the 90's Genesis. There are only a few books that have a defined 'roster', with Uncanny & Astonishing spilling over into New Mutants or Gen Hope. Meanwhile X-Men Legacy has peripheral but an undefined roster to that of Wolverine & the X-Men.
So I'm okay with the current split, but just like back in the 90's I doubt that this current arrangement will last more than a few years. In fact, while I like it at the moment I think I would love it more if the titles were more defined in their different roles & rosters (just like back in the days of X-Men Gold, X-Men Blue, X-Force, Excalibur & X-Factor).
Yeah, I would like to see the different teams actually do something totally different from the main teams, but still sort of relate a bit with the main teams. For example, on Cyclops' side of the Regenesis, the issues of "X-Men" have Domino, Jubilee, and Warpath as main characters, but somehow, Colossus and Storm are also apart of the roster. Now I love Storm and Colossus, but it feels like they are out of place in that series and they should stay in "Uncanny X-Men." Therefore, there's really not a defined roster in "X-Men" because Storm and Colossus are there even though they are supposed to be in "Uncanny X-Men."@Rabbitearsblog: In the 90's they created new books and it was the Genesis of a new way of publishing the X-Men. A couple of decades late they have Re:Genesis, but somehow they didn't quite catch the same magic of the 90's Genesis. There are only a few books that have a defined 'roster', with Uncanny & Astonishing spilling over into New Mutants or Gen Hope. Meanwhile X-Men Legacy has peripheral but an undefined roster to that of Wolverine & the X-Men.
So I'm okay with the current split, but just like back in the 90's I doubt that this current arrangement will last more than a few years. In fact, while I like it at the moment I think I would love it more if the titles were more defined in their different roles & rosters (just like back in the days of X-Men Gold, X-Men Blue, X-Force, Excalibur & X-Factor).
@BlackArmor said:
@cattlebattle said:
slim down the roster numbers,get rid of the excess characters and have the core X-Men reunite....I'd like that
@Rabbitearsblog said:
@Deranged Midget said:This.I want the classic team back together.
Double this.
Yes, because maybe then the characters would stop being massacred from their well-established personalities. Did you know at one point in time, Beast cracked jokes all the time, whilst still being a consummated scientist? And that he didn't use to be so hypocritical? (Oh it's ok if Wolverine continues with X-Force, and if Beast inadvertedly killed a lot of innocents recently, but Cyclops is a douche). Yeah, I'd like my old Beast back.
I think an approach such as the Blue team/Gold team one from the 90's or the New/Uncanny/Extreme X-Men would be nice. You might think it's too much of a throwback, but this is basically a nostalgia thread.
@Rabbitearsblog: I'm digging the split for the simple fact that more people are getting screen time. Magik, Colossus, and Kitty. Magneto has also taken a step into the background until the events of Schism. Who knows where it's going from here, but until then I'll be enjoying the story. Wolverine would never go to a space casino if they split up!
Also if Bobby and Kitty hook up Colossus is going to blow his stack!
Yeah, I definitely miss the old Beast! I would like to have the classic blue and gold team back since the X-Men weren't really on bad terms with each other at the time.Yes, because maybe then the characters would stop being massacred from their well-established personalities. Did you know at one point in time, Beast cracked jokes all the time, whilst still being a consummated scientist? And that he didn't use to be so hypocritical? (Oh it's ok if Wolverine continues with X-Force, and if Beast inadvertedly killed a lot of innocents recently, but Cyclops is a douche). Yeah, I'd like my old Beast back.
I think an approach such as the Blue team/Gold team one from the 90's or the New/Uncanny/Extreme X-Men would be nice. You might think it's too much of a throwback, but this is basically a nostalgia thread.
@Rickbarry said:
Also if Bobby and Kitty hook up Colossus is going to blow his stack!
Just wait until he finds out that she's pregnant! ;)
@Rabbitearsblog said:
Yeah, I would like to see the different teams actually do something totally different from the main teams, but still sort of relate a bit with the main teams. For example, on Cyclops' side of the Regenesis, the issues of "X-Men" have Domino, Jubilee, and Warpath as main characters, but somehow, Colossus and Storm are also apart of the roster. Now I love Storm and Colossus, but it feels like they are out of place in that series and they should stay in "Uncanny X-Men." Therefore, there's really not a defined roster in "X-Men" because Storm and Colossus are there even though they are supposed to be in "Uncanny X-Men."
I really want to like that title, but can't. Gischler's writing repeatedly disappoints me. But if it meant a more defined roster then I'd rather Storm stay there as their field leader (and not live in Cyclops' shadow in Uncanny). It doesn't make sense to have a team with both Warpath & Colossus on, so I'd ship Colossus back to Uncanny... And then restore Chris Yost to the title so I could at least enjoy reading the stories.
Yeah, I would definitely want Chris Yost and Craig Kyle to write this series since they have written these characters before and I agree that having two powerhouses on the team wouldn't make a lot of sense.@Rabbitearsblog said:
Yeah, I would like to see the different teams actually do something totally different from the main teams, but still sort of relate a bit with the main teams. For example, on Cyclops' side of the Regenesis, the issues of "X-Men" have Domino, Jubilee, and Warpath as main characters, but somehow, Colossus and Storm are also apart of the roster. Now I love Storm and Colossus, but it feels like they are out of place in that series and they should stay in "Uncanny X-Men." Therefore, there's really not a defined roster in "X-Men" because Storm and Colossus are there even though they are supposed to be in "Uncanny X-Men."I really want to like that title, but can't. Gischler's writing repeatedly disappoints me. But if it meant a more defined roster then I'd rather Storm stay there as their field leader (and not live in Cyclops' shadow in Uncanny). It doesn't make sense to have a team with both Warpath & Colossus on, so I'd ship Colossus back to Uncanny... And then restore Chris Yost to the title so I could at least enjoy reading the stories.
@Rabbitearsblog said:
@xerox_kitty said:Yeah, I would definitely want Chris Yost and Craig Kyle to write this series since they have written these characters before and I agree that having two powerhouses on the team wouldn't make a lot of sense.@Rabbitearsblog said:
Yeah, I would like to see the different teams actually do something totally different from the main teams, but still sort of relate a bit with the main teams. For example, on Cyclops' side of the Regenesis, the issues of "X-Men" have Domino, Jubilee, and Warpath as main characters, but somehow, Colossus and Storm are also apart of the roster. Now I love Storm and Colossus, but it feels like they are out of place in that series and they should stay in "Uncanny X-Men." Therefore, there's really not a defined roster in "X-Men" because Storm and Colossus are there even though they are supposed to be in "Uncanny X-Men."I really want to like that title, but can't. Gischler's writing repeatedly disappoints me. But if it meant a more defined roster then I'd rather Storm stay there as their field leader (and not live in Cyclops' shadow in Uncanny). It doesn't make sense to have a team with both Warpath & Colossus on, so I'd ship Colossus back to Uncanny... And then restore Chris Yost to the title so I could at least enjoy reading the stories.
They could do a lot of good with Warpath & Domino, and give Jubilee a little more dimension than just "I'm a Vampire! Angst!" ;) And they'd write a very strong Storm, worthy of the strong character who was capable of leading the X-Men even when she was 'powerless'.
I stopped enjoying New Mutants a long time ago, so I've dropped that. I only bought adjectiveless X-Men because it had Warpath in it, but you've probably guessed my stance on that title by now ;) So now I only get X-Factor, Legacy and W&tXM. I wouldn't be interested in seeing the reintroduction of the Utopia characters unles they were guaranteed to be written (and drawn ;) by someone good. So, for the time being I'm staying a 'Westchester Girl'.
I kind of wish that Grant Morrison or Joss Whedon was writing "Uncanny X-Men." They probably would have brought something new to the table with the characters.@Rabbitearsblog said:
@xerox_kitty said:Yeah, I would definitely want Chris Yost and Craig Kyle to write this series since they have written these characters before and I agree that having two powerhouses on the team wouldn't make a lot of sense.@Rabbitearsblog said:
Yeah, I would like to see the different teams actually do something totally different from the main teams, but still sort of relate a bit with the main teams. For example, on Cyclops' side of the Regenesis, the issues of "X-Men" have Domino, Jubilee, and Warpath as main characters, but somehow, Colossus and Storm are also apart of the roster. Now I love Storm and Colossus, but it feels like they are out of place in that series and they should stay in "Uncanny X-Men." Therefore, there's really not a defined roster in "X-Men" because Storm and Colossus are there even though they are supposed to be in "Uncanny X-Men."I really want to like that title, but can't. Gischler's writing repeatedly disappoints me. But if it meant a more defined roster then I'd rather Storm stay there as their field leader (and not live in Cyclops' shadow in Uncanny). It doesn't make sense to have a team with both Warpath & Colossus on, so I'd ship Colossus back to Uncanny... And then restore Chris Yost to the title so I could at least enjoy reading the stories.
They could do a lot of good with Warpath & Domino, and give Jubilee a little more dimension than just "I'm a Vampire! Angst!" ;) And they'd write a very strong Storm, worthy of the strong character who was capable of leading the X-Men even when she was 'powerless'.
I stopped enjoying New Mutants a long time ago, so I've dropped that. I only bought adjectiveless X-Men because it had Warpath in it, but you've probably guessed my stance on that title by now ;) So now I only get X-Factor, Legacy and W&tXM. I wouldn't be interested in seeing the reintroduction of the Utopia characters unles they were guaranteed to be written (and drawn ;) by someone good. So, for the time being I'm staying a 'Westchester Girl'.
@ReVamp said:
@The Dark Huntress said:
Can we get Yost/Kyle/Choi/Oback on a title again, please?
You're asking Marvel for good writers on X-Men? Girl... I don't wanna tell you what to do with your life, but whatever the hell you just took... It's probably bad for you. M'kay?
To be completely fair...as bad as some of the X-titles are, there are a good few that are great.
- X-Factor
- Legacy (under Carey, we'll see how Gage does)
- WatXM is surprisingly good
- Uncanny
@The Dark Huntress said:
To be completely fair...as bad as some of the X-titles are, there are a good few that are great.
- X-Factor
- Legacy (under Carey, we'll see how Gage does)
- WatXM is surprisingly good
- Uncanny
X-Factor is good, but I've said this a million times. For all intents and purposes, its not an X-Title and I don't consider it as such. Its not directly connected to the characters and wasn't connected to Utopia, which is what allowed it to be a good series.
I'd have to agree with Legacy, as seen by people thinking it was one of the ten best Marvel series of 2011. WATX and Uncanny are both series that are relatively new and I don't think that Uncanny is great, even now. Good, perhaps but definitely not great. I just haven't seen anything to prove to me otherwise. The Sinister arc was just Cyclops trying to show how big he thought his balls were and while it was definitely good, its nothing compared to what the X-Men that got me into comics were.
Schism was poorly concieved, produced, implemented and written but now that is has happened it is far too soon to reunite everyone undier a single banner. I have been plesently surprised by Wolverine and the X-Men and Legacy and Uncanny X-Men are still interesting. There needs to be more seperation between all the team books though. I don't want to see Wolverine in Legacy very much and by the same token I do not want to see Cyclops in New Mutants very much. I still think Wolverine needs to be in less titles though no one is listening and now he will still be in Astonishing and now with the new Age of Apocalypse title. Granted it is an alternate reality and not in the main 616 reality but it is yet another monthly title with Wolverine in it.
Schism was poorly concieved, produced, implemented and written but now that is has happened it is far too soon to reunite everyone undier a single banner. I have been plesently surprised by Wolverine and the X-Men and Legacy and Uncanny X-Men are still interesting. There needs to be more seperation between all the team books though. I don't want to see Wolverine in Legacy very much and by the same token I do not want to see Cyclops in New Mutants very much. I still think Wolverine needs to be in less titles though no one is listening and now he will still be in Astonishing and now with the new Age of Apocalypse title. Granted it is an alternate reality and not in the main 616 reality but it is yet another monthly title with Wolverine in it.I agree that Cyclops and Wolverine need to stay out of the other books associated with their team. It would help develop the other characters more if Wolverine and Cyclops slightly stay out of it.
Nah, before Schism most of the roster of teams were Emma, Cyclops and Wolverine. At least now other characters get to shine. Oh and Careys later issues of Legacy were terrible.
@papad1992 said:
@Aero_gt said:
they will reunite. but both sides really need to hit rock bottom. casualties and the destrucion of their homes. its the x men against the world in the long run.This has to happen... or they will splinter even more!! Either way I'm happy
I agree. I can't imagine one side having all the luck while the other side is having bad luck. They wouldn't really be united if they both haven't suffered some casualties.
@jrock85 said:
The entire franchise could use a reboot.
I agree! X-Men has hit rock bottom for the past 10 years.
@jrock85 said:
The entire franchise could use a reboot.
Yes. Honestly, I think they really need to stop rehashing the Phoenix schtick, stop getting pulled into every random money making scheme crossover and get some big ideas. At this point, I'm reading "The Fantastic Four" and a few DC titles that actually seem like they are trying to be relevant or at least interesting (I never thought I'd read "Aquaman" over the newest issue of "X-Men", but that's where I am now). I'm not sure if it's possible for an entire franchise to inherently be exhausting but the non-stop angst of some of the X titles really prevents them from progressing into more interesting storylines. And while I'm glad "Wolverine and the X-Men" is working out, him being in charge of a school still doesn't make sense to me, and the way "Schism" is playing out is even worse. If Jean comes back, it would be a great time to reboot some of the past few storylines and just get them in a more interesting trajectory - honestly, this group seems a lot more happy to read when the group dynamic is more positive, because it doesn't make much sense for them to be with each other if they can't get along.
@PhoenixoftheTides said:
@jrock85 said:
The entire franchise could use a reboot.
Yes. Honestly, I think they really need to stop rehashing the Phoenix schtick, stop getting pulled into every random
money making schemecrossover and get some big ideas. At this point, I'm reading "The Fantastic Four" and a few DC titles that actually seem like they are trying to be relevant or at least interesting (I never thought I'd read "Aquaman" over the newest issue of "X-Men", but that's where I am now). I'm not sure if it's possible for an entire franchise to inherently be exhausting but the non-stop angst of some of the X titles really prevents them from progressing into more interesting storylines. And while I'm glad "Wolverine and the X-Men" is working out, him being in charge of a school still doesn't make sense to me, and the way "Schism" is playing out is even worse. If Jean comes back, it would be a great time to reboot some of the past few storylines and just get them in a more interesting trajectory - honestly, this group seems a lot more happy to read when the group dynamic is more positive, because it doesn't make much sense for them to be with each other if they can't get along.
Exactly! The X-Men has been going downhill ever since they started the whole mutant decimination thing. I also think that the X-men stories were way better when the X-men were actually getting along with each other, not fighting each other. I also hated the way that Schism was made and I wish that after Schism is over with, they will start making more X-men stories with the X-men being more friendly with each other.
I like them separated. The new status quo allows/forces new relationships and alliances to be formed (besides, when they were all together when did most of those relationships really amount to anything?).
I agree! I don't think that this will last that long, especially at the rate that Marvel keeps on putting out their events.They will eventually. Them using the reunification as a springboard for an arc and event is more than predictable. Like the whole united race under Utopia they'll do it once the current theme get's stale. All New And Different is the going rate for the X-books.
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