With the return of the Scarlet Witch and the possibility of mutants getting repowered, who would you like to see get their powers back?

My wishlist.

1. Dani Moonstar

2. Slipstream

3. Wind Dancer

4. Prodigy

Blob.

Dani Moonstar I mean seriously she has stepped into a leadership position now. Give that chick her powers back.

Moonstar, Jubilee

@Silver_Raven said:

With the return of the Scarlet Witch and the possibility of mutants getting repowered, who would you like to see get their powers back?

My wishlist.

1. Dani Moonstar

2. Slipstream

3. Wind Dancer

4. Prodigy

@coolbeans said:

Dani Moonstar I mean seriously she has stepped into a leadership position now. Give that chick her powers back.

A female leader of an X-Men team who hasn't got any powers? It's not like that could last for years... oh no, wait. It already did. Nearly 30 years ago :p

@Mutant God:

Can Jubilee be repowered though?

I say yes

@_slim_ said:

Blob.

X-man back to his full power

Marrow

@xerox_kitty said:

@coolbeans said:

Dani Moonstar I mean seriously she has stepped into a leadership position now. Give that chick her powers back.

A female leader of an X-Men team who hasn't got any powers? It's not like that could last for years... oh no, wait. It already did. Nearly 30 years ago :p

Also agreed, I think I like her better without the powers. The same also goes for Jubilee and meh to the vampire thing.

@Mutant God said:

Jubilee

1. Moonstar

2. Wind Dancer

3. Prodigy

4. Blob

5. Angel Salvadore (but more evolved with better powers!!!)

6. Marrow

7. Thornn

Every named character except maybe a few like Beak who had sucky powers unless we can evolve to better.

None. I liked that the writers were willing to make Decimation happen. I think it was probably one of the riskiest things they've done with the mutant titles and to constantly repower various characters makes it seem like less of a big deal than it was. Giving them technological based powers a la New Warriors was fine. I don't even mind giving them new powers due to other external forces (ie. Jubilee being a vampire...even though it kind of smacks of trend following), but just randomly repowering existing characters doesn't really appeal to me. And even though Decimation caused some of my favorite characters to cease to exist in the way that they had (Jubes...I will continue to miss you "Paffs")...

I would agree if they had some balls but when Jubilee is your most well known character to get depowered I don't consider it bold. Xavier, Polaris, Magneto, Quicksilver and Iceman all got repowered or never really lost their powers in the first place.

@Skaddix said:

I would agree if they had some balls but when Jubilee is your most well known character to get depowered I don't consider it bold. Xavier, Polaris, Magneto, Quicksilver and Iceman all got repowered or never really lost their powers in the first place.

This. It was such a convenient Decimation that only affected lower tiered X-characters and left most of the popular X-men unphased and those that were boldly depowered got repowered shortly after, in many creative and convoluted ways. Why should they continue this facade when they poked so many holes in it's validity. It's just like when they kill off a popular character for the shock value and then resurrect them in a few months time. Repowering mutants is a much easier pill to swallow. So let's get on with it.

Has Chamber been repowered?

@RainEffect said:

Has Chamber been repowered?

Yes, Legion gave him his powers back.

@RainEffect said:

Has Chamber been repowered?

Yes, Legion gave him his powers back.

Jubilee and Rogue

@RainEffect said:

@CitizenBane said:

@RainEffect said:

Has Chamber been repowered?

Yes, Legion gave him his powers back.

Dude, I fracking love Legion now.

But his hair man...his hair! How can you love a guy with that haircut?

@Nudeviking said:

@RainEffect said:

@CitizenBane said:

@RainEffect said:

Has Chamber been repowered?

Yes, Legion gave him his powers back.

Dude, I fracking love Legion now.

But his hair man...his hair! How can you love a guy with that haircut?

How can you not love a guy with that haircut?

All of them. I never liked Decimation, and I think the X-Men titles would become more interesting if mutants were a prominent minority again instead of a nearly extinct species.

@CitizenBane said:

@Nudeviking said:

@RainEffect said:

@CitizenBane said:

@RainEffect said:

Has Chamber been repowered?

Yes, Legion gave him his powers back.

Dude, I fracking love Legion now.

But his hair man...his hair! How can you love a guy with that haircut?

How can you not love a guy with that haircut?

I can't can't love a guy with that haircut most definitely.

@jhazzroucher: Rogue never lost her powers.

Artie 

1. Jubilee

2. Beak

No one

A few years ago when the current generation of Young X-Men were introduced I kind of liked Wind Dancer. I know plenty of people said she was like an incomplete Storm
but the character appealed to me. So i guess i would like to see her repowered. also Jubilee getting her powers back and still being a vampire would be interesting.

@lorex said:

A few years ago when the current generation of Young X-Men were introduced I kind of liked Wind Dancer. I know plenty of people said she was like an incomplete Storm but the character appealed to me. So i guess i would like to see her repowered. also Jubilee getting her powers back and still being a vampire would be interesting.

Well she was an incomplete storm since she only controls wind still she was a good character

I'd like to see Bora with her powers back. There's something about a 7 foot Russian woman that catches my eye.

@Silver_Raven said:

@Skaddix said:

I would agree if they had some balls but when Jubilee is your most well known character to get depowered I don't consider it bold. Xavier, Polaris, Magneto, Quicksilver and Iceman all got repowered or never really lost their powers in the first place.

This. It was such a convenient Decimation that only affected lower tiered X-characters and left most of the popular X-men unphased and those that were boldly depowered got repowered shortly after, in many creative and convoluted ways. Why should they continue this facade when they poked so many holes in it's validity. It's just like when they kill off a popular character for the shock value and then resurrect them in a few months time. Repowering mutants is a much easier pill to swallow. So let's get on with it.

The decimation was a bold move by Marvel. Sure it could have been bolder by depowering some of the big names permanently, but c'mon this is comics we're talking about. Veeeery few things are ever permanent in comics.

The reason that decimation was such a bold move was the fact that it dramatically changed the power balance and status quo of mutants in the MU. It also put some major characters through the ringer for a decent spell - Magneto, Xavier, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Rictor, etc. Quicksilver's post M-Day troubles were hugely entertaining to read (via Inhumans and X-Factor). It put mutants on a radical new direction and introduced a lot of new plot strands. Decimation was about getting mutants back to being a truly hated and feared minority rather just massive chunk of the world populations that, if pushed too far, could quite easily take over the world. Just because the popular characters didn't stay depowered doesn't invalidate this. Put it this way, if the Decimation hasn't had a valid impact on the characters, plots and MU in general, then forum posts like this wouldn't exist 6 (7?) years after the story. Marvels Avengers / X-Men event this year is fundamentally rooted in events from M-Day.

It would be way less valid and bold if they were to suddenly repower everyone now or to have done this shortly after House of M. Repowering mutants isn't an easier pill to swallow, it would essentially be a massive retraction of a major plot point - exactly what you're complaining about Marvel doing for specific characters. I can't see how saying 'Oh Marvel, the chickens. They've repowered some of the most popular characters thus making it less bold / valid a move. Let's get them to repower everyone!'. That essentially criticising them for copping out a little bit and then demanding them to cop out completely as some sort of weird solution.

Sure it gave a radical redirection but it also eliminated the rogues gallery for the most part and stuck us with Hope.

Also no they were not massive even if u assume say 100 million mutants. Global Population is 6 Billion Plus. That means mutants are less then 2% of global population that is still pretty minor spread all around the globe. Also no mutants were a threat because population was increasing but mutants are now down to a few hundred. Hardly a threat u can sit around and do nothing and they will die out. No one would honestly invest resources as long as Scott keeps his loose nukes like Magneto from killing humans in terrorist attacks. Sure a few hate groups but besides that no.

Also X-Corps and a global surge in population was already a bold new era.

Moonstar/ Mirage

Jubilee

Marrow

Angel Salvadore/ Tempest

Calisto

Angel and Beaks babies.

@Skaddix: Thank you. I loved the new direction they were going in before Decimation. The X-men were becoming international, we had more culturally diverse and modern characters and the X-men weren't uber exotic because there were countless other mutants around the world. Where was the logic in how mostly American mutants kept their powers while countries with huge populations lost almost all of theirs. And the big name mutants that were depowered had little time to lament their losses and to reevalutate their new status quo, like two of world's most prominent mutant leaders becoming human. Magneto's self-hatred would have been so fascinating to explore or how Professor X could have continued his work from the perspective of the outsider for once. But they repowered them in about a year's time. Other characters have been randomly yet conveniently repowered like Chamber, thanks to Legion but no one else did. Or how the Terrigon Mists restored Quicksilver's power but not anyone else in X-cell. I am sure there are many characters that would love their powers back while others not so much.

I think Decimation could have been a lot better but instead of making the best of a bad situation Marvel went with the worse. Everything became about making life more terrible and dangerous for the remaining mutants and the promises made to resolve the problem were never fulfilled. It was a meaningless waste of time, focus and resources. Now we have this new event on the horizon that will mostly likely give mutants a renaissance. And I am all for it. The more mutants the merrier. I wonder if the Phoenix can make that happen or if it will be the Scarlet Witch's road to redemption.

@xerox_kitty said:

@coolbeans said:

Dani Moonstar I mean seriously she has stepped into a leadership position now. Give that chick her powers back.

A female leader of an X-Men team who hasn't got any powers? It's not like that could last for years... oh no, wait. It already did. Nearly 30 years ago :p

Ah, when Storm was cool. Seriously though, it would be sweet if Dani got some variation of her powers back.

@Skaddix said:

Sure it gave a radical redirection but it also eliminated the rogues gallery for the most part and stuck us with Hope.

Also no they were not massive even if u assume say 100 million mutants. Global Population is 6 Billion Plus. That means mutants are less then 2% of global population that is still pretty minor spread all around the globe. Also no mutants were a threat because population was increasing but mutants are now down to a few hundred. Hardly a threat u can sit around and do nothing and they will die out. No one would honestly invest resources as long as Scott keeps his loose nukes like Magneto from killing humans in terrorist attacks. Sure a few hate groups but besides that no.

Also X-Corps and a global surge in population was already a bold new era.

I'd argue that M-Day itself didn't eliminate the rogues gallery at all. Sure Bastion, Hodge, Stryker, etc have been killed, but they had some serious face time between Messiah Complex and Second Coming, which were excellent arcs that had other big classic villains. The only real villain from the classic rogues gallery to be 'eliminated' is Magneto since he joined the X-Men and more recently Sebastian Shaw, but we all know that's unlikely to last. There's just been arcs involving Mystique, Sinister, a revitalized Hellfire Club (okay - those kids suck, but point stands) and the Phalanx. Sabretooth is popping up again, so are the Hand and the Marauders soon will be too. The Marauders, Sinister, Mystique, Seline, Deathstrike, Apocalypse, Stryfe, etc have appeared over the years since M-Day / Decimation too. And we've had Sentinels. Heck, even Magneto's clone Joseph has resurfaced! We've recently been given a great twist on the whole Apocalypse thing in Uncanny X-Force too. If the writers have been guilty of anything, I'd argue it wasn't taking the time/chance to expand number of villain not supposedly eliminating the X-Mens rogues gallery. Lets be honest, it gets a bit boring continually going back to the same cast of bad guys too much anyway. I'd say the classic villains have been used just the right amount and with some interesting changes to keep things fresh.

Okay, perhaps I overstated things when I said mutants were a massive chunk of the world's population, but 100 million is still a massive chunk. 100 million mutants could still do a massive amount of damage to the homo sapien world. If not take over, then at least plunge it into chaos. Also, having that many mutants kinda makes regular super heroes a lot less special and important. It seemed a bit ridiculous to me that this wasn't happening more.

To be honest I found the whole X-Corp thing kinda tedious. It might have been a bold new era for the characters in terms of them getting more of a foothold in the world re: fighting for mutant rights and providing safe havens, but it's not exactly a bold new direction re: story telling. It was simply building up and building up, whereas M-day ripped up a lot of things and genuinely was a bold change. Whether you agreed with it or liked it is a different matter.

Also, I not saying mutants are a huge threat post-M Day. I'm saying they are truly and more believably hated and feared again, and more openly now their numbers have dwindled. All the bigots have come out of the woodwork in a way they wouldn't have when there were millions. So yes, mutants are more hated and feared now and in my opinion this is a good thing and more fertile for stories on this theme, echoing the Claremont days but at the same time still doing new and more interesting things. Plus, so what if the mutants are suddenly <200. The human populace still has no idea why this happened and a large percentage will be worried that it' is somehow miraculously reversed in the future and homo sapiens are once again on the evolutionary outs. So a lot of the anti-mutant bigots out there will probably figure, lets not leave anything to chance - get rid of them all now. This was essentially the premise of Second Coming.

You say no-one would attack Scott / X-men as long as people like Magneto are on a leash. Not really as Schism recently demonstrated when half the world mobilized legions of sentinels. I'd say the governments of the world are clearly prepared to attack the remaining mutants if they feel the circumstances warrant it. They may well be just biding their time at the moment hoping the small hate groups do it for them. Having stockpiles of Sentinels kind of suggests that approach. Look at when Osborn took charge during Dark Reign - his hostile approach to mutants is what prompted the 'circle your wagons' strategy of Utopia. He was effectively government sanctioned.

@Daycrawler said:

@Skaddix said:

Sure it gave a radical redirection but it also eliminated the rogues gallery for the most part and stuck us with Hope.

Also no they were not massive even if u assume say 100 million mutants. Global Population is 6 Billion Plus. That means mutants are less then 2% of global population that is still pretty minor spread all around the globe. Also no mutants were a threat because population was increasing but mutants are now down to a few hundred. Hardly a threat u can sit around and do nothing and they will die out. No one would honestly invest resources as long as Scott keeps his loose nukes like Magneto from killing humans in terrorist attacks. Sure a few hate groups but besides that no.

Also X-Corps and a global surge in population was already a bold new era.

I'd argue that M-Day itself didn't eliminate the rogues gallery at all. Sure Bastion, Hodge, Stryker, etc have been killed, but they had some serious face time between Messiah Complex and Second Coming, which were excellent arcs that had other big classic villains. The only real villain from the classic rogues gallery to be 'eliminated' is Magneto since he joined the X-Men and more recently Sebastian Shaw, but we all know that's unlikely to last. There's just been arcs involving Mystique, Sinister, a revitalized Hellfire Club (okay - those kids suck, but point stands) and the Phalanx. Sabretooth is popping up again, so are the Hand and the Marauders soon will be too. The Marauders, Sinister, Mystique, Seline, Deathstrike, Apocalypse, Stryfe, etc have appeared over the years since M-Day / Decimation too. And we've had Sentinels. Heck, even Magneto's clone Joseph has resurfaced! We've recently been given a great twist on the whole Apocalypse thing in Uncanny X-Force too. If the writers have been guilty of anything, I'd argue it wasn't taking the time/chance to expand number of villain not supposedly eliminating the X-Mens rogues gallery. Lets be honest, it gets a bit boring continually going back to the same cast of bad guys too much anyway. I'd say the classic villains have been used just the right amount and with some interesting changes to keep things fresh.

Okay, perhaps I overstated things when I said mutants were a massive chunk of the world's population, but 100 million is still a massive chunk. 100 million mutants could still do a massive amount of damage to the homo sapien world. If not take over, then at least plunge it into chaos. Also, having that many mutants kinda makes regular super heroes a lot less special and important. It seemed a bit ridiculous to me that this wasn't happening more.

To be honest I found the whole X-Corp thing kinda tedious. It might have been a bold new era for the characters in terms of them getting more of a foothold in the world re: fighting for mutant rights and providing safe havens, but it's not exactly a bold new direction re: story telling. It was simply building up and building up, whereas M-day ripped up a lot of things and genuinely was a bold change. Whether you agreed with it or liked it is a different matter.

Also, I not saying mutants are a huge threat post-M Day. I'm saying they are truly and more believably hated and feared again, and more openly now their numbers have dwindled. All the bigots have come out of the woodwork in a way they wouldn't have when there were millions. So yes, mutants are more hated and feared now and in my opinion this is a good thing and more fertile for stories on this theme, echoing the Claremont days but at the same time still doing new and more interesting things. Plus, so what if the mutants are suddenly <200. The human populace still has no idea why this happened and a large percentage will be worried that it' is somehow miraculously reversed in the future and homo sapiens are once again on the evolutionary outs. So a lot of the anti-mutant bigots out there will probably figure, lets not leave anything to chance - get rid of them all now. This was essentially the premise of Second Coming.

You say no-one would attack Scott / X-men as long as people like Magneto are on a leash. Not really as Schism recently demonstrated when half the world mobilized legions of sentinels. I'd say the governments of the world are clearly prepared to attack the remaining mutants if they feel the circumstances warrant it. They may well be just biding their time at the moment hoping the small hate groups do it for them. Having stockpiles of Sentinels kind of suggests that approach. Look at when Osborn took charge during Dark Reign - his hostile approach to mutants is what prompted the 'circle your wagons' strategy of Utopia. He was effectively government sanctioned.

I think you're assuming that every mutant is alpha, beta, or omega. The average mutant isn't necessarily battle oriented (example: poor Peepers) and even if they are, it isn't always to the extent of the average X-Man. Also to say that the amount of mutants takes from superheroes being special, I think you're failing to remember Civil war as an event, let's just mention The Initiative both as group and a program...a team of supers in every state...Avengers Academy...what I'm getting at is that there is a super on every corner already between massive rogues galleries and random heroes.

Don't get me wrong, I understand your point, but just thought I'd mention the above.

@Soulstealer said:

@Daycrawler said:

@Skaddix said:

Sure it gave a radical redirection but it also eliminated the rogues gallery for the most part and stuck us with Hope.

Also no they were not massive even if u assume say 100 million mutants. Global Population is 6 Billion Plus. That means mutants are less then 2% of global population that is still pretty minor spread all around the globe. Also no mutants were a threat because population was increasing but mutants are now down to a few hundred. Hardly a threat u can sit around and do nothing and they will die out. No one would honestly invest resources as long as Scott keeps his loose nukes like Magneto from killing humans in terrorist attacks. Sure a few hate groups but besides that no.

Also X-Corps and a global surge in population was already a bold new era.

I'd argue that M-Day itself didn't eliminate the rogues gallery at all. Sure Bastion, Hodge, Stryker, etc have been killed, but they had some serious face time between Messiah Complex and Second Coming, which were excellent arcs that had other big classic villains. The only real villain from the classic rogues gallery to be 'eliminated' is Magneto since he joined the X-Men and more recently Sebastian Shaw, but we all know that's unlikely to last. There's just been arcs involving Mystique, Sinister, a revitalized Hellfire Club (okay - those kids suck, but point stands) and the Phalanx. Sabretooth is popping up again, so are the Hand and the Marauders soon will be too. The Marauders, Sinister, Mystique, Seline, Deathstrike, Apocalypse, Stryfe, etc have appeared over the years since M-Day / Decimation too. And we've had Sentinels. Heck, even Magneto's clone Joseph has resurfaced! We've recently been given a great twist on the whole Apocalypse thing in Uncanny X-Force too. If the writers have been guilty of anything, I'd argue it wasn't taking the time/chance to expand number of villain not supposedly eliminating the X-Mens rogues gallery. Lets be honest, it gets a bit boring continually going back to the same cast of bad guys too much anyway. I'd say the classic villains have been used just the right amount and with some interesting changes to keep things fresh.

Okay, perhaps I overstated things when I said mutants were a massive chunk of the world's population, but 100 million is still a massive chunk. 100 million mutants could still do a massive amount of damage to the homo sapien world. If not take over, then at least plunge it into chaos. Also, having that many mutants kinda makes regular super heroes a lot less special and important. It seemed a bit ridiculous to me that this wasn't happening more.

To be honest I found the whole X-Corp thing kinda tedious. It might have been a bold new era for the characters in terms of them getting more of a foothold in the world re: fighting for mutant rights and providing safe havens, but it's not exactly a bold new direction re: story telling. It was simply building up and building up, whereas M-day ripped up a lot of things and genuinely was a bold change. Whether you agreed with it or liked it is a different matter.

Also, I not saying mutants are a huge threat post-M Day. I'm saying they are truly and more believably hated and feared again, and more openly now their numbers have dwindled. All the bigots have come out of the woodwork in a way they wouldn't have when there were millions. So yes, mutants are more hated and feared now and in my opinion this is a good thing and more fertile for stories on this theme, echoing the Claremont days but at the same time still doing new and more interesting things. Plus, so what if the mutants are suddenly <200. The human populace still has no idea why this happened and a large percentage will be worried that it' is somehow miraculously reversed in the future and homo sapiens are once again on the evolutionary outs. So a lot of the anti-mutant bigots out there will probably figure, lets not leave anything to chance - get rid of them all now. This was essentially the premise of Second Coming.

You say no-one would attack Scott / X-men as long as people like Magneto are on a leash. Not really as Schism recently demonstrated when half the world mobilized legions of sentinels. I'd say the governments of the world are clearly prepared to attack the remaining mutants if they feel the circumstances warrant it. They may well be just biding their time at the moment hoping the small hate groups do it for them. Having stockpiles of Sentinels kind of suggests that approach. Look at when Osborn took charge during Dark Reign - his hostile approach to mutants is what prompted the 'circle your wagons' strategy of Utopia. He was effectively government sanctioned.

I think you're assuming that every mutant is alpha, beta, or omega. The average mutant isn't necessarily battle oriented (example: poor Peepers) and even if they are, it isn't always to the extent of the average X-Man. Also to say that the amount of mutants takes from superheroes being special, I think you're failing to remember Civil war as an event, let's just mention The Initiative both as group and a program...a team of supers in every state...Avengers Academy...what I'm getting at is that there is a super on every corner already between massive rogues galleries and random heroes.

Don't get me wrong, I understand your point, but just thought I'd mention the above.

Good points that I'd not taken into account!

Reckon even when filtering out the weaker mutants there would've still been enough omegas, etc to pose a serious threat if they'd been pushed enough and had a tactical/ruthless leader to rally around (Magneto, Exodus, Apocalypse or someone like that). Get your point re: supes on every corner that's true enough, but I guess I was kinda taking that opinion from my point of view as a reader as opposed to what a MU citizen would think I guess.

@Daycrawler: More likely there would be enough Alphas and Betas. Omega is still a vague sort of term, especially since it tends to be limitless potential and how exactly does one gauge potential to be limitless? Also mutants that are more or less thought of as Omega aren't always the most powerful of mutants themselves, the key lies in that word potential. I use Alpha and Beta myself more because those have at least slightly greater clarity and substance.

Now that being said, I get your reasoning. Mutantkind have some heavy hitters, especially seeing as in Marvel most telepaths and telekinetics seem to be mutants. Also the right or perhaps depending on your outlook wrong leader could very well make things very bad very quickly for the common man, but I still have to disagree that less mutants means more hated and feared.

It makes them a better target to their enemies no doubt, but to me the hate and fear of mutants was that mutants could be anyone. Mutants didn't take crazy science experiments, fancy suits, or anything that could be traced. It was just genetics. And that's both good and bad. There is the general populace's fear that you never knew. I tick a guy off in traffic he might make my brain explode. And then there was the fear of potential mutants. I think it was touched on very poignantly in Generation Hope. There was talk of a book of horrible mutations. Sort of a side show sort of deal. So it's genetics.

You might have the power to eat suns or you might be a living puddle for the rest of your life. One of those is a little more common than the other. And that's just random, pure chance. I for one am not sure I'd take the chance of those odds.

I remember someone arguing once that it was stupid for mutants to be hated and feared; I argue to the opposite. If anything why aren't all supers hated and feared? For every Captain America there are how many Red Skulls? For every Spider-man there is a Venom, Carnage, Electro, Scorpion. For every X-Men there are Marauders, Reapers, Gene Nation.

Deathlok Nation in X-Force was a story that touched on more than we realize I think. Not that the concept is new but there it is. Also enough getting off topic. lol

With Rictor and Chamber's recent repowerings, the only ones left on my list are Marrow and Wind Dancer. I would also be really entertained to see Scanner make a comeback, though!

I could go either way with Jubilee and Moonstar at this point. I'm not too fond or interested in their recent characterizations and choice of friends (and thus interactions).

Wind Dancer and Mirage.

@Silver_Raven said:

With the return of the Scarlet Witch and the possibility of mutants getting repowered, who would you like to see get their powers back?

My wishlist.

1. Dani Moonstar

2. Slipstream

3. Wind Dancer

4. Prodigy

My lists, with Perhaps Marrow added to the mix.

@Soulstealer said:

@Daycrawler: More likely there would be enough Alphas and Betas. Omega is still a vague sort of term, especially since it tends to be limitless potential and how exactly does one gauge potential to be limitless? Also mutants that are more or less thought of as Omega aren't always the most powerful of mutants themselves, the key lies in that word potential. I use Alpha and Beta myself more because those have at least slightly greater clarity and substance.

Now that being said, I get your reasoning. Mutantkind have some heavy hitters, especially seeing as in Marvel most telepaths and telekinetics seem to be mutants. Also the right or perhaps depending on your outlook wrong leader could very well make things very bad very quickly for the common man, but I still have to disagree that less mutants means more hated and feared.

It makes them a better target to their enemies no doubt, but to me the hate and fear of mutants was that mutants could be anyone. Mutants didn't take crazy science experiments, fancy suits, or anything that could be traced. It was just genetics. And that's both good and bad. There is the general populace's fear that you never knew. I tick a guy off in traffic he might make my brain explode. And then there was the fear of potential mutants. I think it was touched on very poignantly in Generation Hope. There was talk of a book of horrible mutations. Sort of a side show sort of deal. So it's genetics.

You might have the power to eat suns or you might be a living puddle for the rest of your life. One of those is a little more common than the other. And that's just random, pure chance. I for one am not sure I'd take the chance of those odds.

I remember someone arguing once that it was stupid for mutants to be hated and feared; I argue to the opposite. If anything why aren't all supers hated and feared? For every Captain America there are how many Red Skulls? For every Spider-man there is a Venom, Carnage, Electro, Scorpion. For every X-Men there are Marauders, Reapers, Gene Nation.

Deathlok Nation in X-Force was a story that touched on more than we realize I think. Not that the concept is new but there it is. Also enough getting off topic. lol

Good points! I guess you're right - fewer numbers probably does mean less reason the hate and fear them, well fear anyways. Sometimes the smaller and weaker a group / person is the more intensely it's hated. Like, 'they're all nearly dead, why won't the final few die!!!'. The more times they attempt to kill the remaining mutants and fail, the more this fuels their hatred. When mutants were far more numerous, thus feared more as a result, there perhaps would've been a less perverse 'failure = magnified hatred' aspect at work. It's like you see a swarm of wasps and you think, man I hate wasps. You see a single wasp and think, I f**kin hate wasps, Die!!!. Feel like I should now work out some equation regarding how size inversely affects the magnitude of fear v hatred. Maybe I could give up my job and get a government grant!

BTW, I thought that Gen Hope story about the mutant suicide in England was amazing. Gillen did a great job in writing a story that could have easily fallen into melodramatic cliche. Kinda sad they cancelled Gen Hope. Always on the edge of being a great book.

got to go with wind dancer and jubilee if she can get them back

@_slim_ said:

Blob.

I would love to see that.