Who deserve a power up?

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#1 Posted by lovelyamy (21 posts) - - Show Bio

After reading Wolverine and the X-men (plus Uncanny X-force) and looking at the latest comic preview I wondered this question.

So far we have recently seen Psylocke, Ice Man, Colossus, Cyclops (Astonishing X-men) and now Kid Omega (using tk to roll dice in his favor at a casino and now create a psionic rifle in the latest preview) tap into some long needed power potential.

Now I am wondering who else would you like to see? Preferably on Cyclops (Scott Summers) Extinction Team but I would take any mutant character either way.

It doesn't have to be something big that makes them overpowered. It can be creative use of their own power set or characters tapping into their true potential.

#2 Posted by lorex (958 posts) - - Show Bio

I would like to see Cyclops get control of his power but not tell anyone about and save that ability as a surprise advantage.

#3 Edited by Purgy (419 posts) - - Show Bio

Well for Cyclops side, i would like to see some of the younger mutants recived some power ups. Like Prodigy for one. But that's just me. Something that'll boost his intelligence and maybe somethings offensive for him. Maybe low level TP could work for him. And also Surge i forgot which issue showed that she can use her powers to give her a speed boost. And Dust too. P.s: Also a power boost for Gambit too.

#4 Edited by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio

@lorex said:

I would like to see Cyclops get control of his power but not tell anyone about and save that ability as a surprise advantage.

how in God's name would that work?

#5 Posted by BlackArmor (6138 posts) - - Show Bio

What did Cyke do in astonishing?

#6 Posted by Rickbarry (1853 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Colossus getting the power spike, but it's temporary and it's changed his character. I do hope after the whole avatar thing is overwith his power is boosted. Dude has been in armored form for nearly a year. The last time that happened his strength level nearly doubled.

#7 Posted by jhazzroucher (16502 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm for me.

#8 Posted by Original_Sin (356 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm enjoying Iceman's current boost.

But on topic I don't think any of them need a power boost. What they need is a boost in the writing department.

#9 Posted by BlackArmor (6138 posts) - - Show Bio

@Original_Sin said:

But on topic I don't think any of them need a power boost. What they need is a boost in the writing department.

Uncanny X-men has been great recently I would even say on the level of Scott Snyders Batman, and I've heard good things about Wolverine and the X-men, X-force has been critically acclaimed since the begining and the last Astonishing X-men arc has been getting allot of props, which title do you think needs improvement? The x-writers have been doing a good job for the past few months.

#10 Posted by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio

@Original_Sin said:

I'm enjoying Iceman's current boost.

But on topic I don't think any of them need a power boost. What they need is a boost in the writing department.

both of the main series are actually doing pretty well....

#11 Edited by Rabbitearsblog (6028 posts) - - Show Bio
@Original_Sin said:

I'm enjoying Iceman's current boost.

But on topic I don't think any of them need a power boost. What they need is a boost in the writing department.

I definitely agree with this!
#12 Posted by royale_with_cheese (747 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit learning to use his powers to it's full potential in the same way his New Son counterpart did. God knows, Wolverine's branch of the X-men need more firepower and Gambit has always been seen as a chump with just a deck of playing cards.

#13 Posted by Enosisik (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

No one .. Finally making Jubile actually useful would be nice though.

#14 Posted by JonesDeini (3501 posts) - - Show Bio

@lorex said:

I would like to see Cyclops get control of his power but not tell anyone about and save that ability as a surprise advantage.

I loved that in Whedon's astonishing he conquered his psychological issues which were holding him back from controlling his blast. That was a great moment for Scott and one of the moments that truly cemented his and Emma's relationship as truly real for me. Sadly like most thing from the Morrison/Whedon era it's been jettisoned by Marvel.

Outside of Scott I'd love to see Jubilee's powers one returned and fully exploited as you know she can control PLASMA!!! She could literally turn you into a walking nuke.

#15 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops, obviously. Fanboyism aside, he's the only one of the original X-Men to have never gotten one, and his brothers have both been ludicrously powered up.  
 
Wonder Man should be beefed up again. He's become a parody of himself in terms of power.  
 
Spider-Man desperately needs a power up as well. 

#16 Posted by Gambit1024 (9843 posts) - - Show Bio

-Gambit. It's BS that Sinister made it so he could never be New Son. At least give him something else to do.

-Namor. Lose the wings and give him hydrokinesis.

#17 Posted by The Stegman (25989 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like it if Rockslide could control earth and actually make...rockslides

#18 Posted by royale_with_cheese (747 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

-Gambit. It's BS that Sinister made it so he could never be New Son. At least give him something else to do.

-Namor. Lose the wings and give him hydrokinesis.

Dam you! To think that I was the only one......

#19 Posted by WildValentine (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, seeing it's only the X-Men we're talking about, I would like to see Emma's telepathy increased to near omni-levels. She always seems to be swatted away like a fly, even though she is supposedly one of the most powerful telepaths alive. For example, in the first few issues of Uncanny X-Men, Sinister had no issues with her.

#20 Posted by Gambit1024 (9843 posts) - - Show Bio

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Gambit1024 said:

-Gambit. It's BS that Sinister made it so he could never be New Son. At least give him something else to do.

-Namor. Lose the wings and give him hydrokinesis.

Dam you! To think that I was the only one......

What did I do??

#21 Posted by royale_with_cheese (747 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Gambit1024 said:

-Gambit. It's BS that Sinister made it so he could never be New Son. At least give him something else to do.

-Namor. Lose the wings and give him hydrokinesis.

Dam you! To think that I was the only one......

What did I do??

@royale_with_cheese said:

Gambit learning to use his powers to it's full potential in the same way his New Son counterpart did. God knows, Wolverine's branch of the X-men need more firepower and Gambit has always been seen as a chump with just a deck of playing cards.

You did wrong by me dammit! Jokes. Your idea for Gambit's power up is pretty much identical to mine.

#22 Posted by Gambit1024 (9843 posts) - - Show Bio

@royale_with_cheese: Oops. Didn't read any of the other posts... Great minds think alike, I guess.

Still, I'd like to see Gambit get his Death powers back (minus the black skin and all that). Was it ever explained how he got rid of it?

#23 Posted by royale_with_cheese (747 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@royale_with_cheese: Oops. Didn't read any of the other posts... Great minds think alike, I guess.

Still, I'd like to see Gambit get his Death powers back (minus the black skin and all that). Was it ever explained how he got rid of it?

I'm guessing it comes and goes, depending on whether or not writers want to exploit that issue, in the same manner as Warren and his Archangel persona. I'd rather Gambit have his New Son powers as opposed to his Death powers, seeing as how one is his potential, while the other was created from artificial meddling.

#24 Posted by Gambit1024 (9843 posts) - - Show Bio

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Gambit1024 said:

@royale_with_cheese: Oops. Didn't read any of the other posts... Great minds think alike, I guess.

Still, I'd like to see Gambit get his Death powers back (minus the black skin and all that). Was it ever explained how he got rid of it?

I'm guessing it comes and goes, depending on whether or not writers want to exploit that issue, in the same manner as Warren and his Archangel persona. I'd rather Gambit have his New Son powers as opposed to his Death powers, seeing as how one is his potential, while the other was created from artificial meddling.

I'd like to see New Son too, but Sinister made it so he can't ever get that powerful. All the potential Gambit ever had was wasted when Sinister tampered with his brain.

#25 Posted by royale_with_cheese (747 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Gambit1024 said:

@royale_with_cheese: Oops. Didn't read any of the other posts... Great minds think alike, I guess.

Still, I'd like to see Gambit get his Death powers back (minus the black skin and all that). Was it ever explained how he got rid of it?

I'm guessing it comes and goes, depending on whether or not writers want to exploit that issue, in the same manner as Warren and his Archangel persona. I'd rather Gambit have his New Son powers as opposed to his Death powers, seeing as how one is his potential, while the other was created from artificial meddling.

I'd like to see New Son too, but Sinister made it so he can't ever get that powerful. All the potential Gambit ever had was wasted when Sinister tampered with his brain.

Maybe AoA Jean can help Gambit, in the same way she recently helped Psylocke?

#26 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (6028 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma - I would like to see her actually do some strength moves like lift up heavy objects since she can turn her body into diamond and diamond is one of the hardest substances on earth.  I would also like to see her do some martial arts moves like Psylocke, but not so much where she's exactly like Psylocke.
 
Colossus - I like to see him go through a second mutation that has nothing to do with Cyttorak.  I want to see him actually do more stunts with his steel body like lift up buildings or such.
 
Cyclops - I want to see more of the surprising moves he did in Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men and I especially want to see him control his optic blasts so he doesn't have to wear his goggles all the time.

#27 Posted by lorex (958 posts) - - Show Bio
@JonesDeini said:

@lorex said:

I would like to see Cyclops get control of his power but not tell anyone about and save that ability as a surprise advantage.

I loved that in Whedon's astonishing he conquered his psychological issues which were holding him back from controlling his blast. That was a great moment for Scott and one of the moments that truly cemented his and Emma's relationship as truly real for me. Sadly like most thing from the Morrison/Whedon era it's been jettisoned by Marvel.

Outside of Scott I'd love to see Jubilee's powers one returned and fully exploited as you know she can control PLASMA!!! She could literally turn you into a walking nuke.

I agree on both points Scott finally getting control of his powers wes a great moment for him and Jubilee getting her powers back would be cool espically if she kept her vampire strength and speed.
#28 Posted by Purgy (419 posts) - - Show Bio

Having Trouble with the qoutes right now. But for the Gambit power up. With a new write (maybe Liu) can sort of touch on that subject for Gambit. I would like to see more of the Death Powers too (not the gas more of what they show during hellbound and legacy). But that's my two cents.

#29 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3628 posts) - - Show Bio

@WildValentine said:

Well, seeing it's only the X-Men we're talking about, I would like to see Emma's telepathy increased to near omni-levels. She always seems to be swatted away like a fly, even though she is supposedly one of the most powerful telepaths alive. For example, in the first few issues of Uncanny X-Men, Sinister had no issues with her.

I agree. It really seems to me as if her telepathy has been written down since she gained her diamond form. Compared to her original appearances, where she was a team buster, it's almost as if she (or telepathy in general) has gotten weaker. It seems like writers want to give high showings to being with telepathic resistance but low showings to telepaths that should be able to take them down.

#30 Posted by DEGRAAF (7912 posts) - - Show Bio

i dont want him to get a bigger power up but i would like to see Iceman gain more control or show more control over his powers. I love what they have been showing him doing recently

#31 Posted by lovelyamy (21 posts) - - Show Bio

@PhoenixoftheTides: I'm kind of torn here because part of what you said is true and then part is not with all respect.

Emma is a great telepath but I actually think they kind of boosted here when Magneto/Xorn killed Jean. But now (as of recently they do down play here a lot). Just like Psylocke (who recently reached Emma level but when its time to show power it's like "he have mental blocks, I cant get through" which I find awkward). Other characters are being down played as well like Storm, Magneto, Xavier, Rogue (who is getting better I may add), Kid Omega, Dust, Rachel Grey, Dazzler, Gambit, Cable, X-man, and so on. Hopefully you guys see where I am coming from.

Also you guys have mentioned some good characters that not only need power ups but power exploitation or development (example: characters enhancing or showing already good abilities that are in there own arsenal that readers have not seen before). As stated Gambit and the old Jubilee was and is quite powerful. But now we don't really see them as much as when they was first introduced.

I think someone mentioned Cyclops in Astonishing X-men. Basically he is just using his optic blast in ways no one have seen before but the story line is kind of lame (I have stopped reading it lol).

Overall, You all are making great points so far.

#32 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3628 posts) - - Show Bio

@lovelyamy: It's really based on my perception of Emma as time has gone on compared to her appearances through the '70s-'90s. I no longer read as many X-Men comics as I used to, so fill me in on where you disagree as I might have missed a couple of stories due to lack of interest. I think we have a similar opinion on the 'mental block' thing, though lol.

Oh yeah, and I generally hate powerups as a matter of principle, but some characters seem to lag behind others (i.e. Dazzler) while everyone else is randomly becoming omegas, gods or coming back to life.

#33 Posted by Original_Sin (356 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor said:

@Original_Sin said:

But on topic I don't think any of them need a power boost. What they need is a boost in the writing department.

Uncanny X-men has been great recently I would even say on the level of Scott Snyders Batman, and I've heard good things about Wolverine and the X-men, X-force has been critically acclaimed since the begining and the last Astonishing X-men arc has been getting allot of props, which title do you think needs improvement? The x-writers have been doing a good job for the past few months.

Let me clarify my earlier statement. When I said they needed a boost in the writing department I didn't mean the stories I actually meant the characters themselves. These days writers aren't creative with mutant powers anymore(or personality but that's another thread). It's the same thing over and over again. Now I'm not saying that it has to be a "world shattering" feat that wipes the floor with any other that they've done but it would be nice to see some diversity. Even characters that have a one trick power like Cyclops could be used more diverse when it comes to his powers. When was the last time we saw him do something more than just shoot and knock someone/thing down? Going back on my earlier statement again I really do enjoy the treatment Iceman is getting. Now mind you I really don't care for the character at all but again I like his recent tap into his potential.

#34 Posted by XHyperionX (33 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like to Nate Grey get back to where he was. If not where he was at least some of his power back.

#35 Posted by Original_Sin (356 posts) - - Show Bio

@XHyperionX said:

I'd like to Nate Grey get back to where he was. If not where he was at least some of his power back.

I can tell you right now that as long as he is on a team he will never be as powerful as he was.

#36 Posted by Charmix (11838 posts) - - Show Bio

@lovelyamy said:

@PhoenixoftheTides: I'm kind of torn here because part of what you said is true and then part is not with all respect.

Emma is a great telepath but I actually think they kind of boosted here when Magneto/Xorn killed Jean. But now (as of recently they do down play here a lot). Just like Psylocke (who recently reached Emma level but when its time to show power it's like "he have mental blocks, I cant get through" which I find awkward). Other characters are being down played as well like Storm, Magneto, Xavier, Rogue (who is getting better I may add), Kid Omega, Dust, Rachel Grey, Dazzler, Gambit, Cable, X-man, and so on. Hopefully you guys see where I am coming from.

Emma was always credited to being a top psi since her first appearance, her being in the stage of the boost made sense, as she progressed. Her diamond form was added to balance her out because in many situations a telepath is the dues ex machina and telepathy is discredited so the diamond form gave her the "telekinesis" that Jean had, in a sense. Which also explained why she couldn't access or be invaded by other telepaths, it was an even measure thing. Psylocke on the other hand is just stuck on "power limbo" they give her one power in a issue and the next she doesn't have them, or a power boost, then it's ignored. I completely see where your coming from, but I suppose it's for story purposes, telepaths are always the first to go down.

ooh god I'm rambling.

#37 Posted by BlackArmor (6138 posts) - - Show Bio

@Original_Sin said:

@BlackArmor said:

@Original_Sin said:

But on topic I don't think any of them need a power boost. What they need is a boost in the writing department.

Uncanny X-men has been great recently I would even say on the level of Scott Snyders Batman, and I've heard good things about Wolverine and the X-men, X-force has been critically acclaimed since the begining and the last Astonishing X-men arc has been getting allot of props, which title do you think needs improvement? The x-writers have been doing a good job for the past few months.

Let me clarify my earlier statement. When I said they needed a boost in the writing department I didn't mean the stories I actually meant the characters themselves. These days writers aren't creative with mutant powers anymore(or personality but that's another thread). It's the same thing over and over again. Now I'm not saying that it has to be a "world shattering" feat that wipes the floor with any other that they've done but it would be nice to see some diversity. Even characters that have a one trick power like Cyclops could be used more diverse when it comes to his powers. When was the last time we saw him do something more than just shoot and knock someone/thing down? Going back on my earlier statement again I really do enjoy the treatment Iceman is getting. Now mind you I really don't care for the character at all but again I like his recent tap into his potential.

Ah, now that you elaborated I'm inclined to agree, I can't remember the last time I saw Cyclops ricochet his beam off of something

#38 Posted by MyraMyraMyra (296 posts) - - Show Bio

Being an obsessive fan of Gambit, of course I'd like to see him getting a power boost. It would be interesting if he somehow got his powers developed again, or if they did something with that precognitive skill he briefly had when he was blind.

But I agree with what someone already said here - what characters usually need is a boost in the writing departement. That applies to Gambit, too, but I'm pretty confident that he'lle fine from now on when Marjorie Liu's Astonishing X-Men kicks off.

I'd also like to see Jubilee becoming more powerful. She already has a nifty set of vampire abilities, but it would be cool to see her learning to master them perfectly.

Also also, I want Chamber back, and his powers boosted.

#39 Posted by Soulstealer (825 posts) - - Show Bio

Kitty Pryde. Personally I'd like to see her able to pull a Cat Pryde from the Exiles and be able to basically phase surgery.

#40 Posted by lovelyamy (21 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charmix:

You speak the truth. Like stated, Emma was introduced as being a team buster. But over the years Professor X and Jean Grey have reached levels that very few can and could match. I liked that now Emma have a chance to shine (no pun intended) in this era (although I tend to hate her at times :D). But they dip so much with telepaths that it is hard to determine who's what and who's in what category of power and skill because some writers ignore important parts of a character history. However I would like to see Professor X back in the mix, he needs an entire new reckon. How can people be so accepting to magneto and not him? Anyways I want to see Professor X, Jean Grey (I miss her *tear*), Emma Frost, and Psylocke kick some good telepathic butt. That would be so awesome if written right.

#41 Posted by shark317 (13 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually, I feel as if some of the characters actually need power-downs. Psylocke does not need to have both telepathy and telekinesis at Jean Grey-ish levels. She should excel at one and have limited use with the other. Magneto has gone from being a living magnet to apparently quasi-controlling all the fundamental forces of nature... um no. Iceman apparently can do so much with his powers that he is starting to step on other characters (why should we have Jamie Maddrox if Iceman can spread his consciousness over multiple ice clones? Leave him with the ability to freeze ambient moisture and that's it. He was a big enough gun as is. When Storm breaks the natural course of weather patterns in an environment, we should see the effects at least mentioned.

#42 Posted by Enosisik (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually I want to even out the strength difference between DC and Marvel. Hulk,Hercules,Thor,Thanos,Sentry,Surfer and a few others should be Superman level strength or at least close to it depending on which one and for what reason.

#43 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (6028 posts) - - Show Bio
@shark317 said:

Actually, I feel as if some of the characters actually need power-downs. Psylocke does not need to have both telepathy and telekinesis at Jean Grey-ish levels. She should excel at one and have limited use with the other. Magneto has gone from being a living magnet to apparently quasi-controlling all the fundamental forces of nature... um no. Iceman apparently can do so much with his powers that he is starting to step on other characters (why should we have Jamie Maddrox if Iceman can spread his consciousness over multiple ice clones? Leave him with the ability to freeze ambient moisture and that's it. He was a big enough gun as is. When Storm breaks the natural course of weather patterns in an environment, we should see the effects at least mentioned.

I agree that some characters shouldn't be powered too much because it would be difficult to write a very powerful character in a team setting.
#44 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like Hellion and Rockslide to be depicted as being more powerful. They should rival, and even excel, a lot of the more senior X-Men in terms of power.

I'd like Surge to develop her powers further too.

#45 Posted by lovelyamy (21 posts) - - Show Bio

@shark317: I do see where you are coming from. Some characters as you mentioned should just show more power versatility. Ice Man for example creating multiple formations of himself was kind of a stretch. Limits should be imposed on some characters. Just because they have limits does not make them less powerful. But you do make a good point. I'm not a DC fan (I don't know why; I don't even have a good reason) but they characters just seem to be very over powered I believe. So I can deal with a little stretch from marvel as long as it have limits and is more realistic. Over powering a character makes it hard to write them.

@Enosisik: You make a solid point as well. I just think that DC and Marvel measure strength in different ways. That is how I always viewed it. For example a ton in dc equals blank amount in marvel.

#46 Posted by aerokinesis (529 posts) - - Show Bio

Dust needs a power up!!!! She needs to be on sandman level or something

#47 Posted by Purgy (419 posts) - - Show Bio

I Agree about Dust but man there is alot that would need either a power-up or more diversity with their powers and affect. That's all i'm going to say

#48 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

Warren. The only original that hasn't gotten enough love.

#49 Posted by Thirteen13 (415 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar: Putting aside the whole techno-organic wings deal didn't Warren develop a healing factor that can be heal others via blood transfusion. IMO Cyclops is the only one of the original 5 that hasn't been shown any love, though I don't want him to have a ridiculous power up more like better control without his visor and different more creative use of his powers.

#50 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thirteen13 said:

@TheCrowbar: Putting aside the whole techno-organic wings deal didn't Warren develop a healing factor that can be heal others via blood transfusion. IMO Cyclops is the only one of the original 5 that hasn't been shown any love, though I don't want him to have a ridiculous power up more like better control without his visor and different more creative use of his powers.

Cyclops has had development in other parts of his character though.

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