Which X-Men title do you think will be cancelled next?

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#1 Edited by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

After hearing that "X-treme X-Men" and "Age of X" are going to be cancelled, what other X-Men titles do you think will be cancelled next and why? I was actually surprised to hear that "X-treme X-Men" is going to be cancelled since it just started at the end of last year.

In my personal opinion, I think that "First X-Men" might be cancelled next since I don't hear too much praise about that series.

#2 Posted by judasnixon (6586 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't believe First X-Men is still going....

#3 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33469 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon: I thought that was a limited series or was that the Avengers one?

#4 Posted by judasnixon (6586 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yeah... I don't think X-men legacy is going to last to much longer ether. Astonish X-men won't be far behind. Most likely they just reboot those two titles.

#5 Posted by judasnixon (6586 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jonny_Anonymous: I think its? Is it me, or is Marvel keeping it a secret what is a mini series, and what's not?
#6 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon said:

Oh yeah... I don't think X-men legacy is going to last to much longer ether. Astonish X-men won't be far behind. Most likely they just reboot those two titles.

I think that Astonishing X-Men might linger for awhile because of Northstar's wedding, but yeah, I can see that title going sometime soon.

#7 Posted by Manbehindthewires (344 posts) - - Show Bio

Astonishing has a committed following...although it's one of the one's I'm following and liking, I think it may well be Arena. Hoping All-New sticks around for a while!

#8 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@Manbehindthewires said:

Astonishing has a committed following...although it's one of the one's I'm following and liking, I think it may well be Arena. Hoping All-New sticks around for a while!

Yeah, I saw the controversy around Avengers Arena, although that's pretty new, so it might stick around for awhile, unless the story lines really upsets the fans.

#9 Edited by Manbehindthewires (344 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@Manbehindthewires said:

Astonishing has a committed following...although it's one of the one's I'm following and liking, I think it may well be Arena. Hoping All-New sticks around for a while!

Yeah, I saw the controversy around Avengers Arena, although that's pretty new, so it might stick around for awhile, unless the story lines really upsets the fans.

I like that it's upsetting fans. It's good to see Marvel growing some balls and getting permanent with some of their darlings; even if they're relatively new, un-rooted ones. It's actually really refreshing to read.

#10 Posted by akbogert (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Manbehindthewires: Aye, that's just what Marvel needs. Two huge middle fingers to devoted fans. It'd be stupid for them to actually respect or care about their readers.

#11 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@Manbehindthewires said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@Manbehindthewires said:

Astonishing has a committed following...although it's one of the one's I'm following and liking, I think it may well be Arena. Hoping All-New sticks around for a while!

Yeah, I saw the controversy around Avengers Arena, although that's pretty new, so it might stick around for awhile, unless the story lines really upsets the fans.

I like that it's upsetting fans. It's good to see Marvel growing some balls and getting permanent with some of their darlings; even if they're relatively new, un-rooted ones. It's actually really refreshing to read.

I wonder if half of these changes will ever stick in the future.

#12 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

No f***ks will be given if first x-men was cancelled.

#13 Edited by Manbehindthewires (344 posts) - - Show Bio

@akbogert: I think you've missed the point; they're moving the story forward for the sake of their readers. How could they possibly gain a greater emotional response than by putting your characters at terminal risk? I'm already finding myself hugely invested in Deathlocket, someone I knew nothing about 2 months ago, and I already feel genuine dread for her, which makes for an incredible read. Kirkman's been doing it for years on Walking Dead.

I don't know why, but I really think they will....then again, I thought that less than a month ago in The Amazing Spider-Man #700 and we can all see where that's going now...

#14 Posted by MysteriousUsername (1210 posts) - - Show Bio
@Death Certificate said:

No f***ks will be given if first x-men was cancelled.

I'd like to say this, but with more flowery language.
#15 Posted by akbogert (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Manbehindthewires: Deathlocket didn't exist two months ago. But most of those characters did. Kirkman created those characters; he has license over whether they die (and hey, Hopeless created Deathlocket, so ditto). The people who already cared about these characters don't want to see them die.

But that's an old song and dance, debated to death elsewhere. What really aggravates me is people saying they are deriving pleasure from other people's anger or suffering. That is textbook sadism.

#16 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

@MysteriousUsername said:

@Death Certificate said:

No f***ks will be given if first x-men was cancelled.

I'd like to say this, but with more flowery language.

A lack of sympathy will be given for first x-men, should it be called for cancellation.

Better or Worst

#17 Edited by Manbehindthewires (344 posts) - - Show Bio

@akbogert: well that's not what I meant at all. I'm deriving pleasure from something that's risky and different and makes all readers (including myself) sit outside of their comfort zone. You're willing to see your favorite characters risk their lives every week until it actually occurs to you that they are risking their lives? Bask in it! Enjoy it! It's the evolution of comics; it can make you feel about characters the same way people felt in the Golden and Silver ages, before we became jaded and overly secure about our heroes' futures.

#18 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon said:

I can't believe First X-Men is still going....

It ended recently.

#19 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@Death Certificate said:

@MysteriousUsername said:

@Death Certificate said:

No f***ks will be given if first x-men was cancelled.

I'd like to say this, but with more flowery language.

A lack of sympathy will be given for first x-men, should it be called for cancellation.

Better or Worst

I wouldn't be sad to see "First X-Men" go either.

#20 Edited by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

Hopefully Astonishing. That book's a pile of crap.

That will leave us with...

  1. Uncanny X-Men Vol 3.
  2. Wolverine and The X-Men
  3. All-New X-Men
  4. X-Men Vol 4.
  5. X-Factor
  6. Cable and The X-Force
  7. Uncanny X-Force Vol 2.
  8. X-Men Legacy
#21 Posted by spetsnaz_gru (235 posts) - - Show Bio

Is All-New X-men a mini that will continue with Uncanny?

#22 Posted by akbogert (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Manbehindthewires: Whether you meant it or not doesn't change whether you're deriving pleasure from something hurting other people or not. It's one thing to say "I'm enjoying the high stakes, but I wish there were a way to do it without hurting people's emotions." It's quite another to say "I'm enjoying the high stakes, and the fact that this is hurting people's emotions is a good sign." Even if I give you, personally, the benefit of the doubt and assume you mean the former, there are plenty of people saying the latter, and that sickens me. As it turns out, I don't enjoy these books because these characters risk their lives. I don't consider death or "ultimate" stakes fundamental to good action, and I consider them far less fundamental (perhaps even antithetical, as they're prone to misuse) to good storytelling and character development.

Risk, by the way, is only really a useful thing when used in tandem with choice. If I do something risky, I am doing something despite knowing it could end badly because I've decided that the ultimate consequence is worth the potential bad. So yeah, in a sense Marvel is being risky in that it's risking pissing off and/or losing readers, and has decided that's worth it because it might drive sales due to the controversial nature of the book. None of the characters, however, are risking their lives, because none of them had any choice over the situation and can do absolutely nothing to make themselves safe. None of them has a higher goal they are putting themselves in jeopardy for in order to accomplish.

If the evolution of comics is characters who don't want to kill being forced to kill, and kids who want to be safe being forced into death traps, and the only way to make people care about your characters is to physically and psychologically torture them, then we are "evolving" towards extinction.

#23 Posted by Manbehindthewires (344 posts) - - Show Bio

@spetsnaz_gru: think it's gonna remain an ongoing and simply pair up with uncanny

#24 Posted by Manbehindthewires (344 posts) - - Show Bio

@akbogert: that's assuming that everything goes according to Arcade's plan, which history suggests it wont. Again, I think you're looking at this too terminally. I see it as bringing emotion (positive and negative) back into comics, whereas you, I can only assume, see it as taking the child-friendly, "it'll all go back" safety net away from it. Comics are being written for a more adult audience than ever, and I see this as being part of it. have you discussed this on another thread btw? I'd like to keep talking about it, but don't want to detract from this threads OP.

#25 Posted by akbogert (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Manbehindthewires: Quite fair. I'll shoot you a message.

And in the interest of topic preservation: I don't know whether it will be cancelled next, but I obviously would be thrilled if Arena ceased to exist.

#26 Posted by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - - Show Bio

Xtreme is being cancelled?! Damn i really liked that book.

#27 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@akbogert said:

@Manbehindthewires: Quite fair. I'll shoot you a message.

And in the interest of topic preservation: I don't know whether it will be cancelled next, but I obviously would be thrilled if Arena ceased to exist.

Me too!!

#28 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Astonishing still come out once ever 6 months or so? I cancelled it long ago in my mind.

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#29 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@pixelized said:

Does Astonishing still come out once ever 6 months or so? I cancelled it long ago in my mind.

I actually stopped reading Astonishing X-Men when Joss Whedon left.

#30 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@pixelized said:

Does Astonishing still come out once ever 6 months or so? I cancelled it long ago in my mind.

I actually stopped reading Astonishing X-Men when Joss Whedon left.

Me too but I picked it back up to read the "new" and "fresh" team that was assembled. So far in the series, Northstar's wedding was bland and dull, Karma's "half-sister" story was incredibly confusing and boring (not to mention the art was horrendous), and the current story, which involves Warbird, is intriguing but a little lack lusting!! I would do some drastic changes to the roster, keep Cecilia Reyes, Gambit, and Warbird but get rid of Wolverine, Karma, Iceman and Northstar (including his husband!). Instead I'd replace the four I just mentioned with Hepzibah, Warpath, Thunderbird III, and Lifeguard!! It'd bring some fresh faces onto the pages and let other characters shine! Wolverine doesn't have to be in every book, nor does Iceman bring anything (or would lose anything) if taken out of this book. And with the addition of Karma and Northstar, I feel that Marvel played to a hot topic in society nowadays and made this book the unofficial "gay book," because Northstar and Kyle would be on panel, I would cringe, and same goes for Karma. I know being gay is apart of their characters but it's too much!! Lighten up the load, introduce forgotten characters, new concepts, and fresh stories, and this book would be the X-Men's top rated book! Plus so far it hasn't been affected by the Marvel universes continuity so it has an upper hand!

#31 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@pixelized said:

Does Astonishing still come out once ever 6 months or so? I cancelled it long ago in my mind.

I actually stopped reading Astonishing X-Men when Joss Whedon left.

Me too but I picked it back up to read the "new" and "fresh" team that was assembled. So far in the series, Northstar's wedding was bland and dull, Karma's "half-sister" story was incredibly confusing and boring (not to mention the art was horrendous), and the current story, which involves Warbird, is intriguing but a little lack lusting!! I would do some drastic changes to the roster, keep Cecilia Reyes, Gambit, and Warbird but get rid of Wolverine, Karma, Iceman and Northstar (including his husband!). Instead I'd replace the four I just mentioned with Hepzibah, Warpath, Thunderbird III, and Lifeguard!! It'd bring some fresh faces onto the pages and let other characters shine! Wolverine doesn't have to be in every book, nor does Iceman bring anything (or would lose anything) if taken out of this book. And with the addition of Karma and Northstar, I feel that Marvel played to a hot topic in society nowadays and made this book the unofficial "gay book," because Northstar and Kyle would be on panel, I would cringe, and same goes for Karma. I know being gay is apart of their characters but it's too much!! Lighten up the load, introduce forgotten characters, new concepts, and fresh stories, and this book would be the X-Men's top rated book! Plus so far it hasn't been affected by the Marvel universes continuity so it has an upper hand!

I think the problem with Astonishing X-Men at the moment is that they are focusing too much on Northstar and not enough on the team dynamics. I think that's why some of the X-Men books are not as memorable as they were years ago because the stories would always focus on one character like "X-Men Legacy" always focused on Rogue and not on the whole team dynamic. That's why I liked Chris Claremont's earlier run on X-Men because he focused so much on the team dynamics.

#32 Posted by Skaddix (3114 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

Hopefully Astonishing. That book's a pile of crap.

That will leave us with...

  1. Uncanny X-Men Vol 3.
  2. Wolverine and The X-Men
  3. All-New X-Men
  4. X-Men Vol 4.
  5. X-Factor
  6. Cable and The X-Force
  7. Uncanny X-Force Vol 2.
  8. X-Men Legacy

Lol I read all that list except Cable and X-Force

#33 Posted by Veitha (3315 posts) - - Show Bio

Legacy or Astonishing, if they don't relaunch Astonishing, too, after X-Termination. Maybe they'll add X-Treme roster to Astonishing's one...

#34 Posted by Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray (745 posts) - - Show Bio

They could cancel more than half of them and it wouldn't affect my pull list! There are way too many X-Men (and Avengers) titles out there.

#35 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

A+X... Nyahahaha!

#36 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@papad1992 said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@pixelized said:

Does Astonishing still come out once ever 6 months or so? I cancelled it long ago in my mind.

I actually stopped reading Astonishing X-Men when Joss Whedon left.

Me too but I picked it back up to read the "new" and "fresh" team that was assembled. So far in the series, Northstar's wedding was bland and dull, Karma's "half-sister" story was incredibly confusing and boring (not to mention the art was horrendous), and the current story, which involves Warbird, is intriguing but a little lack lusting!! I would do some drastic changes to the roster, keep Cecilia Reyes, Gambit, and Warbird but get rid of Wolverine, Karma, Iceman and Northstar (including his husband!). Instead I'd replace the four I just mentioned with Hepzibah, Warpath, Thunderbird III, and Lifeguard!! It'd bring some fresh faces onto the pages and let other characters shine! Wolverine doesn't have to be in every book, nor does Iceman bring anything (or would lose anything) if taken out of this book. And with the addition of Karma and Northstar, I feel that Marvel played to a hot topic in society nowadays and made this book the unofficial "gay book," because Northstar and Kyle would be on panel, I would cringe, and same goes for Karma. I know being gay is apart of their characters but it's too much!! Lighten up the load, introduce forgotten characters, new concepts, and fresh stories, and this book would be the X-Men's top rated book! Plus so far it hasn't been affected by the Marvel universes continuity so it has an upper hand!

I think the problem with Astonishing X-Men at the moment is that they are focusing too much on Northstar and not enough on the team dynamics. I think that's why some of the X-Men books are not as memorable as they were years ago because the stories would always focus on one character like "X-Men Legacy" always focused on Rogue and not on the whole team dynamic. That's why I liked Chris Claremont's earlier run on X-Men because he focused so much on the team dynamics.

Agreed, but it's also because of who makes up the team!! Not special enough!! That's why I'm saying to restructure the team, take some risks and the book would be a hit!! And u r right about the team dynamics... it's just not found in any team books I read!!

#37 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

A big lol to the people who're still pondering whether First X-Men is a mini/ongoing/cancelled or not. An even bigger lol to the OP for hoping that the said title will end some time soon, in addition to that, Avengers Arena isn't even an X-Title, go figure.

Anyways, in a perfect world All New X-Men's concept and everything to culminate from it wouldn't even exist, but alas.

So, i think the only reasonable option would be to settle for the second worst X-Title out atm: Wolverine and The X-Men. I can't even deal with that anymore, if the school manages to reach a third term without anything of paramount importance happening, then everything henceforth won't be canon.

And if Liu can't think of anything more appealing to do with the spare time she's been given, cancel Astonishing X-Men and sail that boat. We don't need incompetent X-Writers anymore.

#38 Posted by chocobojam (288 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope that they also restart X-factor to issue # 1. I really love to try that one.

#39 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

Hopefully Astonishing. That book's a pile of crap.

That will leave us with...

  1. Uncanny X-Men Vol 3.
  2. Wolverine and The X-Men
  3. All-New X-Men
  4. X-Men Vol 4.
  5. X-Factor
  6. Cable and The X-Force
  7. Uncanny X-Force Vol 2.
  8. X-Men Legacy

which still seems like a lot, to me.

Do we really need two X-forces if Storm has her own team in X-men?

#40 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984 said:

@John Valentine said:

Hopefully Astonishing. That book's a pile of crap.

That will leave us with...

  1. Uncanny X-Men Vol 3.
  2. Wolverine and The X-Men
  3. All-New X-Men
  4. X-Men Vol 4.
  5. X-Factor
  6. Cable and The X-Force
  7. Uncanny X-Force Vol 2.
  8. X-Men Legacy

which still seems like a lot, to me.

Do we really need two X-forces if Storm has her own team in X-men?

What's Storm got to do with the redundancy of either X-Force team ?

#41 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@AgeofHurricane: oh, I thought she was leading Uncanny X-force.. that's all.

I was going to read it to see what she's up to, and I still might, but I'm way more interested in seeing her lead the actual X-men.

#42 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984: Eh, Co-leading. While Psylocke also co-leads on X-Men, the official power couple are shutting it down.

#43 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@AgeofHurricane said:

@dangallant984: Eh, Co-leading. While Psylocke also co-leads on X-Men, the official power couple are shutting it down.

ha! Good!

#44 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@papad1992 said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@pixelized said:

Does Astonishing still come out once ever 6 months or so? I cancelled it long ago in my mind.

I actually stopped reading Astonishing X-Men when Joss Whedon left.

Me too but I picked it back up to read the "new" and "fresh" team that was assembled. So far in the series, Northstar's wedding was bland and dull, Karma's "half-sister" story was incredibly confusing and boring (not to mention the art was horrendous), and the current story, which involves Warbird, is intriguing but a little lack lusting!! I would do some drastic changes to the roster, keep Cecilia Reyes, Gambit, and Warbird but get rid of Wolverine, Karma, Iceman and Northstar (including his husband!). Instead I'd replace the four I just mentioned with Hepzibah, Warpath, Thunderbird III, and Lifeguard!! It'd bring some fresh faces onto the pages and let other characters shine! Wolverine doesn't have to be in every book, nor does Iceman bring anything (or would lose anything) if taken out of this book. And with the addition of Karma and Northstar, I feel that Marvel played to a hot topic in society nowadays and made this book the unofficial "gay book," because Northstar and Kyle would be on panel, I would cringe, and same goes for Karma. I know being gay is apart of their characters but it's too much!! Lighten up the load, introduce forgotten characters, new concepts, and fresh stories, and this book would be the X-Men's top rated book! Plus so far it hasn't been affected by the Marvel universes continuity so it has an upper hand!

I think the problem with Astonishing X-Men at the moment is that they are focusing too much on Northstar and not enough on the team dynamics. I think that's why some of the X-Men books are not as memorable as they were years ago because the stories would always focus on one character like "X-Men Legacy" always focused on Rogue and not on the whole team dynamic. That's why I liked Chris Claremont's earlier run on X-Men because he focused so much on the team dynamics.

Agreed, but it's also because of who makes up the team!! Not special enough!! That's why I'm saying to restructure the team, take some risks and the book would be a hit!! And u r right about the team dynamics... it's just not found in any team books I read!!

I agree! You need some really good characters to pull off a really good book!

#45 Edited by RawrImADragon (206 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hope Astonishing doesn't get axed and if it does I hope they relaunch it. I've been following the series for a while and though it's been been hit or miss as of late, it really does have great potential.

I have a feeling that only one of the X-Force books stick around. I don't think Marvel will keep it at two because that's splitting the base of fans of X-Force who may not able to pick up both. It's hard to tell which one will get the boot seeing as how Uncanny has yet to be released but if it's half as good as Remender's run, CaXF will need to step it up to stay relevant.

#46 Posted by MatKrenz (1234 posts) - - Show Bio

@chocobojam: How about a big fat NO and go back and read the trades to catch up. You wont be disappointed.

#47 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5894 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the next X-Men book that might be cancelled might be whichever X-men book is not directly focused on the main plot, although that never really stopped Marvel before and it would all come down to sales in the long run.

#48 Posted by Simpson (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Astonishing will probably go.

#49 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3562 posts) - - Show Bio

I think "X-Men Legacy" will get the axe next.

#50 Posted by poisonfleur (3043 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_29 said:

@judasnixon said:

I can't believe First X-Men is still going....

It ended recently.

Thank God!

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