Which X-Men tbp should I get?

#1 Posted by blight (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey guys I've been away from comics awhile and began reading them again, I wanted to know which story lines are worth following. One I've been hearing about is the x-team with rouge as leader were good, I also heard good things about Messiah Complex that it shows cyclops in a good way which is fine by me since I am a cyclops fan. I just want to know your opinion so I wont waste my money on crappy stories.

#2 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally was not pleased by Messiah CompleX. While the story itself had gobs of potential, the execution was very sloppy. Plot holes, dropped story lines, inconsistencies with continuity and characterization, completely anti-climactic resolution, etc.

IMO, Cyclops was not shown in a good light at all because he jumped to a completely irrational conclusion (seriously, as a reader you try and follow his line of thinking and say "W.T.F?") and sent out a hit squad after his own son. He spends pretty much the entire arc one step behind everyone. Waaay out of character.

Honestly, I have not been pleased with the writing in either of the two flagship X-Tiles. X-Factor and Astonishing are the best written of the entire bunch (New X-Men was getting really good...and then they canceled it). But if you have to choose between Uncanny and Adjectiveless, go with Adjectiveless X-Men. Brubaker simply is out of his depth on the X-Men, he has no idea how to write them. While Carey has flaws, he at least knows how to write the X-Men and write good stories.

I also wouldn't bother with Endangered Species, which was a two issue story, max, that got draaaaaaggggeed out foooooreeeeveeeer (over four months of four different titles) with a resolution that would have been fine after the two issues it should have been, but left you feeling very cheated after sitting through this meandering and slow-paced storyline.

I enjoyed House of M, but I have a bias towards the main character. The story and characterizations were great, but it was also very slow paced. And of course the resolution of M-Day pissed off everyone. Son of M was a good story, if you don't mind seeing Quicksilver go completely 'round the bend.


Post Edited:2008-02-25 14:01:41

#3 Posted by Dorian Gray (249 posts) - - Show Bio

blight says:

"Hey guys I've been away from comics awhile and began reading them again, I wanted to know which story lines are worth following. One I've been hearing about is the x-team with rouge as leader were good, I also heard good things about Messiah Complex that it shows cyclops in a good way which is fine by me since I am a cyclops fan. I just want to know your opinion so I wont waste my money on crappy stories."

your talking about X-Treme X-Men right, cause I have to agree it is pretty good

#4 Posted by iSHADOW (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

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#5 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Dorian Gray says:

your talking about X-Treme X-Men right, cause I have to agree it is pretty good"

I think he is talking about (Adjectiveless) X-Men. Rogue has been team leader in that title for the last couple years.
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#6 Posted by Dorian Gray (249 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"Dorian Gray says:
your talking about X-Treme X-Men right, cause I have to agree it is pretty good"

I think he is talking about (Adjectiveless) X-Men. Rogue has been team leader in that title for the last couple years.
Post Edited:2008-02-25 02:08:41"

I was thinking X-Treme X-Men might be a little too old

#7 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Dorian Gray says:

I was thinking X-Treme X-Men might be a little too old"

Yeah. Good, but perhaps a little older than what he/she is asking about.

#8 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't get Morisson's run cos its irrelevant now and don't bother reading Endangered Species (its crap). Read books after house of m.

Generally you should read:

-You should really read House of M, Civil War (at least main parts, and World War Hulk also.

But for X-men try:

  • X-Factor: better than many X-Men titles atm with a decent team, and is set after HOM. (There are 28 issues so far: 1-24 have been collected in four separate books (well actually 3 tpbs and 4th to be released in April) and each of them is better than the last: 25-27 are involved with Messiah Complex and 28 deals with the aftermath of Messiah Complex)

  • Adjectiveless X-Men: Mike Carey's run was good, in fact it was much much better than Peter Milligan's run which was poor. You would try "Supernovas" which collect #188-199 + annual and "Blinded by The Light" collecting #199-204.

  • Allthough it is somewhat disjointed from the Marvel Universe atm, Astonishing is fantastic and the first stage is nearly at an end. But Cyclops shines through and the arcs are pretty good.

#9 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

Messiah Complex was good, really good. Pania and I disagree on this issue.

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#10 Posted by weather witch (3188 posts) - - Show Bio

somethin with storm in it!!! lol :)

#11 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"- Allthough it is somewhat disjointed from the Marvel Universe atm, Astonishing is fantastic and the first stage is nearly at an end. But Cyclops shines through and the arcs are pretty good."

Yeah, Astonishing #23 is a defining moment for Cyclops all his fans must read.

#12 Posted by blight (12 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm a guy. After the first two volumes of x-treme I felt the plot of that book was loose. Like, they didn't know what to do after the books of destiny arc. I already have the first three volumes of Astonishing that book and it really is that good.

#13 Posted by Titan3510 (432 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate Astonishing X-Men.

Otherwise, I agree with Pania, New X-Men was getting real good but for some reason it got cancelled. For no reason. And I hate this Young X-Men thing. Where did everybody else go? And where are their teachers?

I say you should get X-Factor and Adjectiveless which has grown up to become the fantastic X-Men Legacy. Uncanny is getting better but this upcoming Cable and X-Force thing seems really good and check out Wolverine #62, from there it's supposed to be more X-Men orientated.

#14 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

messiahs complex was great and a good place to start reading X-men

#16 Posted by Lady Tlieso (10198 posts) - - Show Bio

God Loves, Man Kills. it's an older one but one of the best x-men stories ever written, in my opinion that is.

#19 Posted by Lady Tlieso (10198 posts) - - Show Bio

aztek_the_lost says:

"Lady Tlieso says:
"God Loves, Man Kills. it's an older one but one of the best x-men stories ever written, in my opinion that is. "

that's the story X2 was based off of right?"

yep, the comic was much better than the movie. i liked the movie well enough but it didn;t measure up.

#20 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

aztek_the_lost says:

"Nighthunter says:
"messiahs complex was great and a good place to start reading X-men"

lol...the DCer is giving advice on the X-Men"

do you disagree with me?

#23 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

aztek_the_lost says:

"Nighthunter says:
"aztek_the_lost says:
"Nighthunter says:
"messiahs complex was great and a good place to start reading X-men"

lol...the DCer is giving advice on the X-Men"

do you disagree with me?"

not at all, I'm just amused that you were just suggested the book a few days ago and now your recommending it

but I guess that means its really good"

I've always been a fan of the x-men, loved the original animated series and loved the character of Wolverine.

The real reason I hadn't started reading x-men is because of three things:

1-Didn't know the quality. Because you like a character/team doesn't mean is good.

2-There were too many x-men books and didn't know which one(s) to pick

3-I always wait for a point where it's easy to jump in the series

#24 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

in which tps/stories do Magneto and Iceman recover their powers after M day?

and are they a good read?

#25 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"in which tps/stories do Magneto and Iceman recover their powers after M day? and are they a good read?"

iceman never lost his powers but it he is in every issue of Adjecgtiveless X-men since M-day... so start with Decimaton X-Men, then move on to Blood Of Apocalypse, Supernovas, and Blinded by the Light.

Magneto is apparently repowered in New Avengers vomume 4: the collective.

#26 Posted by Cobalt (1471 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"Nighthunter says:
"in which tps/stories do Magneto and Iceman recover their powers after M day? and are they a good read?"
iceman never lost his powers but it he is in every issue of Adjecgtiveless X-men since M-day... so start with Decimaton X-Men, then move on to Blood Of Apocalypse, Supernovas, and Blinded by the Light. Magneto is apparently repowered in New Avengers vomume 4: the collective."

Ok, Enigma. You got the whole mentor thing down cold.

#27 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

Cobalt says:

"The Enigma says:
"Nighthunter says:
"in which tps/stories do Magneto and Iceman recover their powers after M day? and are they a good read?"
iceman never lost his powers but it he is in every issue of Adjecgtiveless X-men since M-day... so start with Decimaton X-Men, then move on to Blood Of Apocalypse, Supernovas, and Blinded by the Light. Magneto is apparently repowered in New Avengers vomume 4: the collective."
Ok, Enigma. You got the whole mentor thing down cold."

i like comics and I dig magento and iceman (in a straight non-sexual manly way)

where you been Cobalt?

#28 Posted by shmish (12 posts) - - Show Bio
aztek the lost said:
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Nighthunter says:

good reasons I suppose...but you could have still just bought the tpb's before getting into the series

"
Just wondering, does the Marvel website list what tpb's are available?  I tried to search their website but found the comic search to be confusing and eratic.  I tried to search by "trade paperback" but either got no hits or a bunch of comics.

thanks
#29 Posted by Blazing Eagle (280 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah, Marvel website can be confusing to naviagate even their Marvel wikipedia is difficult to navigate, I for one love DC's website its much easier to navigate. Plus they show a list of graphic novels arrange alphabitlly (i know my spelling sucks).

#30 Posted by danhimself (22553 posts) - - Show Bio

i would go with the complete age of apocalypse trades and the complete onslaught trades...they were my 2 most favorite x-arcs

#31 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio
Messiah Complex Hardcover, Deadly Genesis, Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire, X-Men: Supernovas.

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