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The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.
Which X-ladies would you like to see fight
I voted for Storm vs Jean so I could see more of them and well, I'm a Storm fan. : )
But seriously, I don't want them to fight.
I should have voted for vampire Jubilee vs X-23 which for me is the most interesting to see.
as for Scarlet vs Jean, Jean would easily win.
Of the presented options, Kitty vs. Emma is always a good throwdown. And they have beef traditionally so it would make sense.
Stretching the definition of "X-lady" a bit, I'm usually a fan of Mystique/Rogue brawls as well, as their personal connection adds a bit of gravitas to the whole thing.
I would LOVE to see Emma Frost vs. this new Jean Grey coming back from the PAST because Emma Frost would KICK HER STUPID LITTLE TEENAGE ASS RIGHT BACK TO THE PAST WHERE SHE BELONGS! But I have a feeling Bendis is going to screw shit up and make Jean Grey over powered.
@IllyanaRasputin said:
I would LOVE to see Emma Frost vs. this new Jean Grey coming back from the PAST because Emma Frost would KICK HER STUPID LITTLE TEENAGE ASS RIGHT BACK TO THE PAST WHERE SHE BELONGS! But I have a feeling Bendis is going to screw shit up and make Jean Grey over powered.
To be honest that's the only the way Emma would stand a chance against Jean. If it was the 616 version of Jean Grey returning, there will be no contest. Jean would destroy Emma easily. Emma should stop living in Cyclops shadows and stop following in the same footsteps as Jean Grey. She should find her own path, I guess that's what you get for a poor replacement.
@time: First and formost if Jean Grey was not linked with the Phoenix and if there were SOME good writers writing a battle against Emma Frost and Jean Grey, Emma Frost would have no problem kicking Jean Grey's ass when it comes to a Telepathy battle and a hand to hand battle. Lets not forget, Jean Grey is not a strong telepath, and compared to Emma Frost, Emma is a much more skilled telepath and know's how to work her way around the human mind. That being said the only reason Jean Grey has EVER been on high scales is because of her Phoenix kick or the fact that writers over power her skills. She has been and always has will be over powered which is why writers like killing her of over and over again because that's all she has going for her.
I'm not going to lie recently Emma Frost has definitely been living in Cyclops shadows but that's because thats poor writing. Emma Frost has her own path and that's been developing Cyclops as an actual character rather than him being a swoony school boy who is in love with Jean Grey, he's become a man because of Emma Frost. She's been a character who will do anything for her students. Even now when she's being corrupted by the Phoenix Force what is she doing? Oh yeah looking out for her students, sure not in the BEST way but she's still herself, just not thinking about the consequences before doing what she's doing.When Jean Grey went all Phoenix what happened with that? Oh yeah she went crazy and did what exactly? Nothing but die.
You cannot compare Emma Frost and Jean Grey, they're two different characters that were developed in two very different generations. It's like people who compare Jubilee, Shadowcat, Armor and Pixie. JUST because they're all the youngest on their team and show a little spunk you cannot say that they're replacing one another, because they're not sure they have similarities but they're different characters. When people being to compare Emma and Jean it's annoying and basically the only reason people defend it is because of their hate for one or the other. All this being said. Emma is not living in Jean Grey's shadow, she's her own developed character who IS NOT afraid to be herself (that is when a writer actually writers her well like Morisson and Whedon).
@IllyanaRasputin said:
@time: First and formost if Jean Grey was not linked with the Phoenix and if there were SOME good writers writing a battle against Emma Frost and Jean Grey, Emma Frost would have no problem kicking Jean Grey's ass when it comes to a Telepathy battle and a hand to hand battle. Lets not forget, Jean Grey is not a strong telepath, and compared to Emma Frost, Emma is a much more skilled telepath and know's how to work her way around the human mind. That being said the only reason Jean Grey has EVER been on high scales is because of her Phoenix kick or the fact that writers over power her skills. She has been and always has will be over powered which is why writers like killing her of over and over again because that's all she has going for her.
I'm not going to lie recently Emma Frost has definitely been living in Cyclops shadows but that's because thats poor writing. Emma Frost has her own path and that's been developing Cyclops as an actual character rather than him being a swoony school boy who is in love with Jean Grey, he's become a man because of Emma Frost. She's been a character who will do anything for her students. Even now when she's being corrupted by the Phoenix Force what is she doing? Oh yeah looking out for her students, sure not in the BEST way but she's still herself, just not thinking about the consequences before doing what she's doing.When Jean Grey went all Phoenix what happened with that? Oh yeah she went crazy and did what exactly? Nothing but die.
You cannot compare Emma Frost and Jean Grey, they're two different characters that were developed in two very different generations. It's like people who compare Jubilee, Shadowcat, Armor and Pixie. JUST because they're all the youngest on their team and show a little spunk you cannot say that they're replacing one another, because they're not sure they have similarities but they're different characters. When people being to compare Emma and Jean it's annoying and basically the only reason people defend it is because of their hate for one or the other. All this being said. Emma is not living in Jean Grey's shadow, she's her own developed character who IS NOT afraid to be herself (that is when a writer actually writers her well like Morisson and Whedon).
I would reply this post in detail, but I'm in the middle of typing up another post related to Emma and her roles in X-Men. Something I''ve been working on for weeks nows, but cause of my injury. It's be pretty hard for to finish off. I'll get back to you when I can.
@IllyanaRasputin:
First and formost if Jean Grey was not linked with the Phoenix and if there were SOME good writers writing a battle against Emma Frost and Jean Grey, Emma Frost would have no problem kicking Jean Grey's ass when it comes to a Telepathy battle and a hand to hand battle.
Lets get one thing clear, Jean and Emma fought on two seperate occasions. The first time Jean had Phoenix the second time it was under her own power. A lot of people misconstrue that Jean had Phoenix during New X-men but she didn't recieve the Phoenix until Issue #148. All the other times the Phoenix appeared in that arc was Jean's powers creating a raptor due to her second mutation. She's was able to easily get through Emma diamond form with ease and raid her mind leaving Emma humiliated.
Jean Grey is not a strong telepath, and compared to Emma Frost, Emma is a much more skilled telepath and know's how to work her way around the human mind. That being said the only reason Jean Grey has EVER been on high scales is because of her Phoenix kick or the fact that writers over power her skills
That's a bit of a stretch, Have you seen any of the things Jean has done with her telepathy? She was able to take Xavier's memory and spread it to mutants across the globe and but his consciousness into his body, look into the future, projected her thoughts from Galacticus's ship to the inhabitants of earth and urge them to resist the Magus's takeover, transferred her mind into Emma's body to save herself from dying, telepathically spent an issue with Storm from across the world and braided her hair with her TK etc.And she did all of this under her own power.
Emma is not living in Jean Grey's shadow, she's her own developed character who IS NOT afraid to be herself (that is when a writer actually writers her well like Morisson and Whedon).
Recent events have shown otherwise....
@IllyanaRasputin said:
I would LOVE to see Emma Frost vs. this new Jean Grey coming back from the PAST because Emma Frost would KICK HER STUPID LITTLE TEENAGE ASS RIGHT BACK TO THE PAST WHERE SHE BELONGS! But I have a feeling Bendis is going to screw shit up and make Jean Grey over powered.
I like Emma, but we've already seen Jean trump Emma's psi defenses when not even trying on multiple occasions during New X-Men and right before Emma's critical injury during the Fitzroy attack. Jean's on a higher level. It's just that most writers don't really care about writing telepaths at their full potential.
@PhoenixoftheTides: Agreed a 616 Jean could kick Emma's ass, it's been done! But a teenage past self Jean with no Phoenix power or lets say a "writers" power boost like she's been giving in the past, Emma would win! Haha.
@IllyanaRasputin: Ugh, you're dumb. Even if it was the Jean in the past, you do know Jean had the ability to tap into the phoenix force since she was young. She will still be able to take Emma.
@oviouslyjeangrey: a) don't call me dumb b) if writers were smart they wouldn't have the young Jean Grey have anything to do with the Phoenix Force or what would the point be for bringing her back? To reuse material?
@IllyanaRasputin: Okay, learn about who you are talking about before you compare and decides who wins. Jean Without the phoenix force Jean still has telepathy that by passes Emma's diamond form and her telekinesis is on a molecule level and could shred her apart.
ps. Jean was able to make Emma go back to her biological form.
@oviouslyjeangrey: Jean wasn't the PHOENIX was. When Jean first faced Emma Frost back in the day. It was the Phoenix who beat Emma. When Jean put Emma back together it was the Phoenix who did that not Jean Grey.
@IllyanaRasputin: Same person, but let say Jean had no phoenix connection she will still be able to take Emma. She was able to take the phoenix out of Emma just by using her mind. (Jean didn't have phoenix because it was in Emma) and she was still able to take it out of her with her telepathy.
(sorry for sending it to you twice I want it to be on the forum)
Jean Grey and Scarlet Witch. Unless it turned into a curb stomp battle. If it did, then Jean and Emma.
Jean and Rogue would (although not on this list) be a pretty good match, I think.
Teenage jean as in first class x men only has TK her Telepathy comes later so Emma wins that contest hands down.
@Skaddix said:
H2H no Powers? that is a stomp in Storm's Favor.
Magik vs Wanda though now that would be awesome fight.
Lol...agreed.
@AgeofHurricane said:
Other: I'll be getting my Domino VS. Psylocke next month.
I can't wait for this one.
@thread A Storm vs Polaris rematch would be cool to see. They have become more powerful since their previous battles.
@THUNDERBOLT30 said:
@Skaddix said:
H2H no Powers? that is a stomp in Storm's Favor.
Magik vs Wanda though now that would be awesome fight.
Lol...agreed.
@AgeofHurricane said:
Other: I'll be getting my Domino VS. Psylocke next month.
I can't wait for this one.
@thread A Storm vs Polaris rematch would be cool to see. They have become more powerful since their previous battles.
Lol, Ororo needs to get those licks in :)
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