Which did you hate more - Last Stand or Origins: Wolverine?

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#1 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5834 posts) - - Show Bio

Since it seems like X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine are the most hated movies in the X-Men film franchise, which one of these movies did you hated more? Or do you like both of these movies?

Personally, I didn't like how so many characters were killed off in X-Men: The Last Stand, especially Cyclops and Professor Xavier, so I couldn't exactly deal with Last Stand that well because of that.

#2 Posted by Pokeysteve (8231 posts) - - Show Bio

Last Stand was just terrible. I'm one of the few that actually enjoyed Origins with the exception of what they did with Deadpool. So much potential there wasted.

#3 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

Last Stand was just terrible. I'm one of the few that actually enjoyed Origins with the exception of what they did with Deadpool. So much potential there wasted.

same here

#4 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5834 posts) - - Show Bio

Last Stand was just terrible. I'm one of the few that actually enjoyed Origins with the exception of what they did with Deadpool. So much potential there wasted.

I agree that one of the worst things about Origins was that they wrote Deadpool terribly and I'm hoping that there is a future X-men movie or solo film that will get Deadpool right.

#5 Posted by Tacos_Kickass (844 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like the X-Men movies, they bred actors that ruined Marvel characters ( Storm/Deadpool) and then went on to ruin DC characters, ( Catwoman/Green Lantern) It was like some kind of bad acting rampage.

#6 Posted by cameron83 (7117 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like the X-Men movies, they bred actors that ruined Marvel characters ( Storm/Deadpool) and then went on to ruin DC characters, ( Catwoman/Green Lantern) It was like some kind of bad acting rampage.

#7 Posted by cameron83 (7117 posts) - - Show Bio

Although I don't think the actors are bad (fantastic actors)...just the writers.

#8 Edited by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

Last Stand, at least Origins had some half-decent action scenes...

#9 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5834 posts) - - Show Bio

Although I don't think the actors are bad (fantastic actors)...just the writers.

I agree with this.

#10 Posted by leych (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Nothing is worse than Last Stand.

#11 Posted by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

A turd sandwich or a turd burger.

#12 Posted by hyiena (1790 posts) - - Show Bio

How can you have Juggernaut and Colossus in the same film and not have them fight?

#13 Posted by cattlebattle (12668 posts) - - Show Bio

The Last Stand at least tried IMO. X-Men Origins Wolverine is like a cheesy 80's Jean Claude Van Damme movie with modern actors in it.....In fact it more or less has the plot of the movie "Commando". The dialogue is terrible, the editing is terrible, they don't even get the powers right.....Blob, Cyclops, Gambit, Silverfox....unbelievable. I could actually sit here and tear into it, but I digress......So yeah, I think Wolverine is just a horrendous movie on so many levels

@hyiena said:

How can you have Juggernaut and Colossus in the same film and not have them fight?

Why would they?? They have only met about 3 times in the comics and Juggeranut is way out of his league.

#14 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4410 posts) - - Show Bio

@hyiena said:

How can you have Juggernaut and Colossus in the same film and not have them fight?

Why would they?? They have only met about 3 times in the comics and Juggeranut is way out of his league.

Colossus has met Juggernaut way more than three times in the comics. just sayin'.

#15 Posted by papad1992 (6827 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd rank the movies like this:

  1. X2
  2. X-Men: First Class
  3. X-Men
  4. X-Men: The Last Stand
  5. X-Men Origins: Wolverine

I'm looking forward to Wolverine and X-Men DOFP!

#16 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men First Class was the only true "X" movie that has been made thus far. I didnt like any of the Singer movies really. Nor Ratner. I did however like Wolverine Origins although to be certain it was rough around the edges. I want to see the new Wolverine movie but I will wait for Netflix for the new Singer X-Men DOFP.

@cattlebattle said:
@hyiena said:

How can you have Juggernaut and Colossus in the same film and not have them fight?

Why would they?? They have only met about 3 times in the comics and Juggeranut is way out of his league.

Colossus has met Juggernaut way more than three times in the comics. just sayin'.

This is correct and Piotr went the distance with Marko more than once as well. One the more famous times I think was their Bar fight.

#17 Posted by desmond006 (596 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to have to say origins was worse. Sadly I payed to see both of these movies in theaters.

#18 Edited by cattlebattle (12668 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:
@hyiena said:

How can you have Juggernaut and Colossus in the same film and not have them fight?

Why would they?? They have only met about 3 times in the comics and Juggeranut is way out of his league.

Colossus has met Juggernaut way more than three times in the comics. just sayin'.

This is correct and Piotr went the distance with Marko more than once as well. One the more famous times I think was their Bar fight.

You know what I meant, they only have actually fought like three times....they're not the mortal enemies everyone seems to think they are.....and no, Colossus never really went the distance with Juggernaut. In the bar fight, he never even really landed a punch and got floored by one hit. Juggernaut is usually a plot device

#19 Posted by The Stegman (23746 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebola or Cancer, which should I choose? hmmm

#20 Posted by phisigmatau (506 posts) - - Show Bio

last stand is the worst for me personally... seeing cyke die and the phoenix killed by logan? really? pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase

id did enjoy the final fight scene though it was pretty good- i felt like the fight scenes from the first 2 movies had nothing on the mutant battle at the end. Still they messed that up to by letting lil darts take out mutants

it would be tough to sit through either of them again, but WO did Gambit excellent justice

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#21 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: Yes I know. I was (trying to be) sarcastic about the 180's bar fight. Colossus has (to my knowledge) NEVER won a fight with Jugs. Juggernaut is a plot device? More like the enemy of the week when the writer just cant seem to think of anything else. Plot device implies some critical plot at some point in time occurred by that statement. Juggernaut has been wholly unimportant since the early eighties.

#22 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4410 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler said:

@cattlebattle said:

Why would they?? They have only met about 3 times in the comics and Juggeranut is way out of his league.

Colossus has met Juggernaut way more than three times in the comics. just sayin'.

This is correct and Piotr went the distance with Marko more than once as well. One the more famous times I think was their Bar fight.

Love that issue! one of my all-time faves! http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-greatest-x-men-comic-about-drunken-brawl/

There was also the first time he faced him, with Black Tom, and then he faced both of them again with Spider-man in the last issue of Marvel Team-up, and then he faced him again just before the first time the X-men fought Nimrod.. actually, that's only four times, I guess; maybe cattlebattle's right. I actually can't think of more than those four times.

oh, and on the topic of XMO: Wolverine vs X-men: the Last Stand, they were both god-awful train wrecks through and through, but the Last Stand was definitely by far the worst.

#23 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Im not sure about the exact count, so let's go with four for now. Piotr is still 0/4 vs Jugs though. The Last Stand was so bad it was more of a parody or farce of the Singer movies than anything. And since the Singer movies sucked that is not saying very much at all.

#24 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (2855 posts) - - Show Bio

The Last Stand at least tried IMO. X-Men Origins Wolverine is like a cheesy 80's Jean Claude Van Damme movie with modern actors in it.....In fact it more or less has the plot of the movie "Commando". The dialogue is terrible, the editing is terrible, they don't even get the powers right.....Blob, Cyclops, Gambit, Silverfox....unbelievable. I could actually sit here and tear into it, but I digress......So yeah, I think Wolverine is just a horrendous movie on so many levels

this pretty much sums up how I feel.............

#25 Posted by mtrakos (563 posts) - - Show Bio

Origins was the worst of xmen series.

#26 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4410 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Im not sure about the exact count, so let's go with four for now. Piotr is still 0/4 vs Jugs though. The Last Stand was so bad it was more of a parody or farce of the Singer movies than anything. And since the Singer movies sucked that is not saying very much at all.

hey!! X-men was a genre breakthrough, and X-2 was a great movie!


I still consider X-2 to be one of the best superhero movies ever made, despite how bad X-men 3 and Wolverine were.

#27 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11303 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought Last Stand was over all way worse than Origins. I don't think THAT many things were terribly wrong with Origins, save for Deadpool.

#28 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4410 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by Pokeysteve (8231 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve said:

Last Stand was just terrible. I'm one of the few that actually enjoyed Origins with the exception of what they did with Deadpool. So much potential there wasted.

I agree that one of the worst things about Origins was that they wrote Deadpool terribly and I'm hoping that there is a future X-men movie or solo film that will get Deadpool right.

It'd be really great if they connected the solo movie with Origins and explained away his presence in that. Probably too much to hope for though.

#31 Posted by SideburnGuru (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm biased here.

I was one of the massive Deadpool fanboys who was pumped for the movie when Deadpool was officialy casted in it. Then we got Baraka-Pool.

Can not forgive. Can not forget.

#32 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio
#33 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4410 posts) - - Show Bio

@chasereis: then why did you watch the Last Stand?

#34 Posted by w0nd (3198 posts) - - Show Bio

origins

#35 Posted by HumanRocket (7622 posts) - - Show Bio

Origins. I didn't like how they just splash Gambit in the movie without doing proper justice to the character. I dislike how they used wade/deadpool it was a nice try but it was just meh to me how to they decided to portray him. I will say how over they did there job with sabertooth his character was the best out of all them including Wolverine.

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#36 Edited by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

The Last Stand at least tried IMO. X-Men Origins Wolverine is like a cheesy 80's Jean Claude Van Damme movie with modern actors in it.....In fact it more or less has the plot of the movie "Commando". The dialogue is terrible, the editing is terrible, they don't even get the powers right.....Blob, Cyclops, Gambit, Silverfox....unbelievable. I could actually sit here and tear into it, but I digress......So yeah, I think Wolverine is just a horrendous movie on so many levels

this pretty much sums up how I feel.............

this. Origins by about a mile.

#37 Posted by yo_yo_fun (643 posts) - - Show Bio

I think X-Men: Last Stand was the worst IMO.

I didn't like how almost everybody dies and there were too many characters stuffed in that movie.

#38 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I eventually watch ALL the comic movies even the poorly reviewed ones. I don't believe anyone else's assessment of anything, I like to try things for myself. Just because someone else likes or dislikes it doesn't deter me from making up my own mind about things. And sometimes if I really like or even really hate something I might peruse it again JUST to reaffirm that I do like or hate it.

#39 Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k (3722 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven`t watched Origins, and don`t wanna.

I actually liked Last stand.

#40 Posted by NightCrawler358 (199 posts) - - Show Bio

Last Stand screwed up a lot of potential, but at least the interesting elements were there. I've never really liked Wolverine as a solo character.

#41 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5834 posts) - - Show Bio

I think X-Men: Last Stand was the worst IMO.

I didn't like how almost everybody dies and there were too many characters stuffed in that movie.

I also didn't like the way all the characters just died without a logical explanation.

#42 Posted by Ultra_beleco (184 posts) - - Show Bio

Origins wolverine is the worst X-men movie in so many levels...

#43 Posted by Ultra_beleco (184 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabbitearsblog: They were desintegrated by Jean absurd molecular level of telekinesis that's all.

#44 Posted by HAWK2916 (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

Both were bad movies IMO. I guess if I just had to choose I'd rather watch X3 because of Storm (i love watching Halle) and Jean Grey ( Famke is sexy too)

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#45 Posted by Xeno_Seeker (414 posts) - - Show Bio

origins haha. i didn't even see it for like three years after it came out.

#46 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't hate either but I liked Origins more.

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#47 Edited by poisonfleur (3016 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Heavens-- Is this actually a Question!??

Wolverine Origins was ABYSMAL!!

X-men: The Last Stand was good. The fight scene at Jean's house, The AvX parallels, Kitty and Beast & their respective actors, Storm finally got a wig that looked right, Mystique joking with the guard and killing him.

What did Origins have going for it???? Gambit-- That's about it.. but then again... Wolverine 1-K.O.ed him mid-sentence... boo... (Plus they removed my homegurl Storm's cameo from the film but showed her off in the commercial-- False advertising.

#48 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5834 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Heavens-- Is this actually a Question!??

Yes, this is actually a question. LOL!

#49 Edited by Bezza (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

Just watched Origins and Last Stand again this week funnily enough and much of Origins was cringeing. They reinvented Sabretooth as something completely different from the earlier films and Logan post claws was far more powerful than Logan in X men 1-3. Everyone who reads the comics knows that Logan cannot take care of sabretooth as easily as he did in their fights in Origins (post getting adamandium). Last Stand was mostly bad for a) the awful Vinnie Jones Juggs and b) killing off too many characters...but the acting was great. The last fight with Wolvie and Phoenix was epic with Logan having to take the choice of killing the woman he loves.

Also, last stand had that brilliant stunt of magneto moving the Golden Gate bridge, which for me remains the best power showing of any marvel character yet in any film and that includes Hulk and Thor!!

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#50 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5834 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza said:

Just watched Origins and Last Stand again this week funnily enough and much of Origins was cringeing. They reinvented Sabretooth as something completely different from the earlier films and Logan post claws was far more powerful than Logan in X men 1-3. Everyone who reads the comics knows that Logan cannot take care of sabretooth as easily as he did in their fights in Origins (post getting adamandium). Last Stand was mostly bad for a) the awful Vinnie Jones Juggs and b) killing off too many characters...but the acting was great. The last fight with Wolvie and Phoenix was epic with Logan having to take the choice of killing the woman he loves.

Also, last stand had that brilliant stunt of magneto moving the Golden Gate bridge, which for me remains the best power showing of any marvel character yet in any film and that includes Hulk and Thor!!

I agree that with Last Stand, the whole idea about killing off various characters really got to me. I always find it ridiculous that certain movies would kill off a large cast for no reason at all.

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