@papad1992 said:
"The best example of what was lost because of being depowered?" U just said that he is the best example of "what was lost"... what was lost? Technically his powers, emotionally his heart, and psychologically his state-of-mind!! Why would he be the person "to carry the flag"? I'm not getting how Prodigy, an ex-mutant who's chained to a desk be the one to carry the flag? That's a whole other factor to this conversation because the one that should be carrying the flag is the one that will repower them which is the Scarlet Witch... Or the one that got repowered, Rictor.
How has David lost more than Dani and Rictor? Honestly is there an entire mini-series that I've missed somewhere!? He wasn't there during the biggest massacre/bus explosion of his student body... he was there for the Purifiers attack but that's it. And David has the entire X-students to talk and interact with!! Him talking with Elixir would give some good closure but apparently Elixir doesn't exist anymore but instead rule as king of comic book limbo!! And Nori was on the island with him since the day it was raised!! It's writers fault for not delving into that sub-plot!!
U keep saying that I said "he was the best example of depowered mutants," while u keep saying he "is the best example of what was lost from being depowered." That's basically if not the exact same thing as what I said... Best example, meaning: he lost the most, endured the most, hurt the most, etc... while Best example of what was lost, meaning: he lost the most, endured the most, hurt the most, etc... now doesn't that seem similar!?!? And if I'm repeating myself please say so...
How's is being pushed out of the spotlight not a huge deal... out of the spotlight means more characterization for other characters and less for him so why is that irrelevant!?? That's a major point because it's what makes him relevant! If after Messiah Complex, he disappeared and started a new life or whatever, would he be remembered? Of course not, because he woulda had a little over 40 appearances and that's all!! He woulda been remembered as being that smart teenager who dated Nori but after M-Day left, that's it!!
David had people he could of talked to too!! Mercury, Elixir (when he was around), Anole, he could of even made peace with Hellion or had closure with Nori, or even talk to Dani because she was his teacher/mentor, etc!! And Prodigy has no voice... that sounds harsh but he doesn't. Name one story arc that has had Prodigy as a main or supporting cast member since Utopia? He was always ever seen as that kid with the cool yellow shades on a computer communicating with some X-Man or whatever!! How does Rictor being placed out of discussion help the conversation? It doesn't... because he was the dream that every mutant (or most mutants) wanted, repowered and happy! And him playing detective was him being apart of a team, was Prodigy apart of a team since M-Day? He could have been easily been apart of the little Science X-Club that has most of the smartest mutants scientists and specialists finding a way to reverse mutants.... having a depowered mutant with the skills and knowledge he did gain while he was a mutant (like fighting skills, anatomy, physiology, Beast's knowledge, etc...) still accessible to him because of the Cuckoos would have been a valuable asset... And I'm not asking for Prodigy to have Wolverine syndrome, just be apart of some regular stories from now and again!! The whole point of Prodigy, Loa, Pixie, Dust, Surge, etc staying on the island were for them to be trained as soldiers, yet we have yet to see them other than occasionally in Generation Hope, which is now cancelled while the rest of the X-kids have had many little cameos and some important roles in WATXM and X-Men Legacy!!
Oh and u got a C- for already delivering the same info but on a different platter...
1. Because he knows what it feels like to lose everything, that's why. He's been at the bottom with no one to truly help him. Rictor had his family and friends so did Dani, David's friends were either killed (the bus), saw him as I liability (Nori), or became somewhat emotionally detatched (Elixir). He's the best to carry the flag over because if any depowered mutant comes along and says "I suddenly felt useless" sure Dani and Rictor can talk to him but what if a depowered mutant comes along and says "I have never had anyone to lean on after the incident" how are they going to respond. David would know how to respond more so than either Dani or Rictor because at the end of the day David lost those people he could lean on one by one.
2. Okay but how has Rictor or Dani lost more than David I ask you. So Rictor and Dani felt they were useless yes but they still had their friends to seek comfort in. Sure David had Elixir but immediately after the whole Nimrod incident the Purifiers killed Laurie which made him emotionally duistant. You can't talk to guy about how something feels when he himself is suffering, and it doesn't take any longer for the whole thing with Selene to come up. I'm taking into account his limited screentime to point out how in that limited amount of time he has lost more. Similar to ratio's if you will
3. The difference in what I'm saying is that best representation to what was lost and best representation are different. The former is the best representation would be someone who faced the adversity and showed that even without their powers they can still be a great leader that would be Dani. Best representation of what was lost means that this person would be able to corelate with the worst situations that caused that lost. Now do you see the difference.
4. Because it's not as if he left. The spotlight giveds more chance for better characterization yes but it's not as if I'm taking situations out of thin air, from what little spotlight David has Ione can make simple conclusions. It's irrelevant in this discussion because all I've pointed out in support of my claims has been within the context of what was written about him after his depowering.
5. Mercury was always more team Hellion as a teenager you're not as much going to talk to people on your rivals clique and even if he did the time frame to talk to Mercury was rather slim considering it wasn't that late for when the anti-mutant folk kidnapped her to make their experiment giving her some emotional situation that would be hard to talk to in regards, plus they're not really friends they're acquaintances. Dani's team treat each other as family, Rictor and X-factor seems imilar plus he has a boy friend. Elixiir as mentioned above has his share of emotional trauma that sure at times he was able to talk to but not in the same capacity as someone you'll want to have deep conversations with. Similar with Anole they're acquaintances. He talked to Nori but as said before that pillar was shattered when she kissed his rival in front him because she thought he was useless (notice how I worded that, I did it like that to showcase the most logical conclusion to a teenagers mind). He didn't truly make peace with Hellion he was making a compromise, if he did than he wouldn't have been screaming at Julian saying he's wrong during Schism.
Prodigy has not been a main supporting character and that is not relevant enough to say he can't be a voice for a group, Rictor is out of the discussion of being the voice of the depowered mutants is similar to how back during the whole Xavier was shot by Bishop thing when Magneto came back depowered the Acloytes saw him as a someone who is not like them. I'm looking at things from the perspective of the masses, Rictor has the X-gene David although got a measure of his skills back because of the Cuckoos is still X-geneless. I know you're not asking Prodigy to have Wolverine syndrome I'm using the Wolverine example to point out that Dani and Rictor are busy with their own thing to be "that" voice for depowered mutants. David is doing nothing at the moment, utopia is in no need for another brain type character he has that time to be that voice.
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