so far we have had three issues of the new title, do you like it so far or do you dislike it. share your thoughts here.
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Yeah, Emma opening her mouth is where things really went sour for me.
I'm liking it actually, much more so than I thought I would.
@AgeofHurricane said:
Yeah, Emma opening her mouth is where things really went sour for me.
Agreed, that wasn't Emma Frost. I don't know who the hell that was supposed to be, but it wasn't Emma.
I liked the first two issues alot, this third one.... Well if that is how Bendis is going to write Cyclops's team, then Uncanny X-Men is going to be a depressing title.
I'm glad that beast is dying, he hasn't been relevant for the longest time. And the way he turned on the X-men... eh. I'm not a fan of his anymore. Young Bobby is awesome, very curious about the encounter with scott from the past and scott from the future. I wonder will he tell him of Xavier's betrayal.
@Blood1991: I mean i just cannot. The line that caught my attention by far was the "Mr Gee Shucks Innocent" thing. I mean--just--just--WHAT ?!
I couldn't hack that. Just like WaTXM, this is also doomed to suffer a fate by which the art carries the title during its 'blossoming' process with an imminent disdain by fans nation-wide, especially considering the fact that the title'll be focusing on Angel soon.
Of all the bloody people.
Oh lol.
@AgeofHurricane: Poor Angel. I actually like his character and powers. It's harder for him to stand out compared to all the superheroes that can fly in addition to other powers nowadays, but it used to be the case that his superior maneuverability and speed gave him an edge over characters who needed to levitate or manipulate energy to float.
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Didn't Magik call something a fixer upper as well? I am quite perplexed as to what people are liking here. There are so many plot problems (Beast having a time machine, if he goes back in time and meets his former self then he should now remember exactly what occurs to him since it already happened) and characterization issues. I grimaced when I saw Bendis was being announced for the X-Men. Why can't he write a Luke Cage book in his own little corner of the M.U. and leave everything else alone?
I've really enjoyed it. Kind of felt it was rushing into the confrontation so I was glad #3 (which was my favourite issue) slowed it down and ended on the cusp.
Oh, but 'fixer upper' did throw me a little. I recall numerous times in Avengers I felt the same, which my only real cause for concern.
@PolarisJunkie: Actually, it doesn't work that way. At least, not the time machine the Beast used. The Beast mentioned using the time platform designed by Doom, tweaked by Richards, then further modified by McCoy himself. That being the case, the moment the Beast went to the past he created an alternate universe, one in which those five X-Men disappeared. It's conceivable to have any one of the original members die, or stay behind, without changing the Beast's timeline. It's because he used that time machine that I'm quite curious what the ultimate outcome of that act will be.
I like the 1st issue, I loved the 2nd issue, but I kind of didn't care about the 3rd issue. I can't wait for the 4th issue though!
@PolarisJunkie said:
Didn't Magik call something a fixer upper as well? I am quite perplexed as to what people are liking here. There are so many plot problems (Beast having a time machine, if he goes back in time and meets his former self then he should now remember exactly what occurs to him since it already happened) and characterization issues. I grimaced when I saw Bendis was being announced for the X-Men. Why can't he write a Luke Cage book in his own little corner of the M.U. and leave everything else alone?
He really doesn't care about good characterization, plot pacing or internal consistency. Bendis constantly annoys me because he mainly cares about telling his story regardless of the characters involved. For someone like me with a pretty thorough knowledge of certain characters, it's a big turn off, and makes me think that I don't need to read any of the stories since they will be retconned or forgotten anyway.
@chalkshark said:
@PolarisJunkie: Actually, it doesn't work that way. At least, not the time machine the Beast used. The Beast mentioned using the time platform designed by Doom, tweaked by Richards, then further modified by McCoy himself. That being the case, the moment the Beast went to the past he created an alternate universe, one in which those five X-Men disappeared. It's conceivable to have any one of the original members die, or stay behind, without changing the Beast's timeline. It's because he used that time machine that I'm quite curious what the ultimate outcome of that act will be.
I thought that they were pretty adamant in saying in that it wasn't an alternate past but the actual 616's past since that was mostly what people were objecting to. I could be wrong though..
@PhoenixoftheTides said:
@PolarisJunkie said:
Didn't Magik call something a fixer upper as well? I am quite perplexed as to what people are liking here. There are so many plot problems (Beast having a time machine, if he goes back in time and meets his former self then he should now remember exactly what occurs to him since it already happened) and characterization issues. I grimaced when I saw Bendis was being announced for the X-Men. Why can't he write a Luke Cage book in his own little corner of the M.U. and leave everything else alone?
He really doesn't care about good characterization, plot pacing or internal consistency. Bendis constantly annoys me because he mainly cares about telling his story regardless of the characters involved. For someone like me with a pretty thorough knowledge of certain characters, it's a big turn off, and makes me think that I don't need to read any of the stories since they will be retconned or forgotten anyway.
I completely agree. It undermines every story because nothing has stakes or consequences, anything can be ignored or swept under the rug. Why should we care if the writers don't?
@PolarisJunkie: Technically, it was the actual past of the Beast's continuity, until he went back in time. As soon as he did that, another timeline split off, at that point, from his continuity. Whatever changes occur because of his actions will affect that timeline. This was established in an old Marvel-Two-In One story. Reed Richards comes up with a cure for the Thing that would have worked, had it been administered shortly after his transformation, when his cellular structure was still in flux. Using the time platform, the Thing takes the cure back to his earlier self, and forcibly administers it. That Thing reverts permanently back into Ben Grimm, but when the Thing journeys back to his own time, he finds that he himself doesn't benefit from the cure. Richards explains the whole alternate timeline deal to the Thing, and another layer of tragedy is added to the character.
It's very possible that the current writers at Marvel have forgotten the way things work, as established by previous writers, and Bendis actually has some plan to reverse all the "damage" the Beast is causing to his own timeline. The way things are supposed to work, though, the Beast isn't damaging his timeline at all, though he's certainly screwed up an alternate one.
@chalkshark said:
@PolarisJunkie: Technically, it was the actual past of the Beast's continuity, until he went back in time. As soon as he did that, another timeline split off, at that point, from his continuity. Whatever changes occur because of his actions will affect that timeline. This was established in an old Marvel-Two-In One story. Reed Richards comes up with a cure for the Thing that would have worked, had it been administered shortly after his transformation, when his cellular structure was still in flux. Using the time platform, the Thing takes the cure back to his earlier self, and forcibly administers it. That Thing reverts permanently back into Ben Grimm, but when the Thing journeys back to his own time, he finds that he himself doesn't benefit from the cure. Richards explains the whole alternate timeline deal to the Thing, and another layer of tragedy is added to the character.
It's very possible that the current writers at Marvel have forgotten the way things work, as established by previous writers, and Bendis actually has some plan to reverse all the "damage" the Beast is causing to his own timeline. The way things are supposed to work, though, the Beast isn't damaging his timeline at all, though he's certainly screwed up an alternate one.
Thats actually pretty awesome, I'm gonna have to track that story down. And yeah, I have a feeling that the current writers have either forgotten or have chosen to forget this tidbit as I remember reading in interviews for this series that Beast indeed travels to 616's past and that it wasn't an alternate reality. I guess we'll see however.
I'm loving it so far to be honest.
@AgeofHurricane said:
@Blood1991: I mean i just cannot. The line that caught my attention by far was the "Mr Gee Shucks Innocent" thing. I mean--just--just--WHAT ?!
I couldn't hack that. Just like WaTXM, this is also doomed to suffer a fate by which the art carries the title during its 'blossoming' process with an imminent disdain by fans nation-wide, especially considering the fact that the title'll be focusing on Angel soon.
Of all the bloody people.
Oh lol.
And she was so damn emotional. She is Emma Frost, the ice queen, not Emma Frost the hot headed prom queen. For Angel, I am just so sick of being let down by Marvel when it comes to the X-Men. Aaron just doesn't cut it for a title that is supposed to be a headlining X-book. All I can do is hope Humphries, and Hopeless deliver with X-Force, and that Wood keeps up his phenomenal Ultimate X-Men.
And, in other news, this is absolutely hilarious.
I couldn't after - Bendis currently holds the world record for most word bubbles in a single panel of comics, with 63 bubbles appearing in one panel of New Avengers, in which characters Luke Cage and Jessica Jones discussed sandwiches -
Kill me rn after that. Lmfao.
What a nightmare we X-Fans are living in.
@AgeofHurricane said
And, in other news, this is absolutely hilarious.
I couldn't after - Bendis currently holds the world record for most word bubbles in a single panel of comics, with 63 bubbles appearing in one panel of New Avengers, in which characters Luke Cage and Jessica Jones discussed sandwiches -
Kill me rn after that. Lmfao.
What a nightmare we X-Fans are living in.
he can't be any worse than Matt fraction or kieron Gillian. I think he done a good job so far on the new title.
@time said:
@AgeofHurricane:
He can't be any worse than Matt fraction or kieron Gillian. I think he done a good job so far on the new title.
Gillen was incredible.
@time said:
@AgeofHurricane said
And, in other news, this is absolutely hilarious.
I couldn't after - Bendis currently holds the world record for most word bubbles in a single panel of comics, with 63 bubbles appearing in one panel of New Avengers, in which characters Luke Cage and Jessica Jones discussed sandwiches -
Kill me rn after that. Lmfao.
What a nightmare we X-Fans are living in.
he can't be any worse than Matt fraction or kieron Gillian. I think he done a good job so far on the new title.
You never really know what you're talking about, so i'm not surprised you came out with that.
Fraction and Gillen aren't the best of writers, but i'd take them over this bald-headed fat piece of retirement a$$ any day.
idk why people hate emma's characterization in the 3rd issue? your boyfriend tried to kill you. you would be mean and bitchy too. plus he, the wanted killer, busts you out of jail and puts you in a pozition your only option is to go with him. yeah, bendis is so bad. i'm enjoying it but i want the young cyke old cyke showdown already.
@theTimeStreamer said:
idk why people hate emma's characterization in the 3rd issue? your boyfriend tried to kill you. you would be mean and bitchy too. plus he, the wanted killer, busts you out of jail and puts you in a pozition your only option is to go with him. yeah, bendis is so bad. i'm enjoying it but i want the young cyke old cyke showdown already.
People hate Emma's characterization because she came off as being stupid and not like the articulate, level-headed character she used to be. She seemed like a generic mad woman, and if there is one thing about Emma that makes her stand out is that she rarely reacts the way a 'generic' woman would.
@x_29 said:
First issue: Passable
Second issue: Solid
Third issue: Really mediocre
Verdict so far: Meh
Same, and judging the third, my excitement for uncanny x-men is dead ATM
It sucks. I just read the first few issues just to give it a fair shake. The dialogue and characterization is off to the extent that the 'They went through a traumatic event, of course they changed!' excuse comes across as lazy.
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