The Uncanny X-Men are a superhero team of mutants that were founded by fellow mutant Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.
No character is "ruined." Sometimes they are written poorly or underused but they are never ruined. They will certainly get used in a cool way eventually. I'm also curious as to why you think the X-Men are ruined.
Jean Grey - They ruined the Dark Phoenix Saga (my favorite comic arc) by bringing Jean back the first time. Oddly enough I like the teenage Jean so far.
Storm - Only by joining the Avengers and Marrying T'Challa. They should have kept her with Forge and the X-Men.
Charles - No complaints.
Magneto - Should have stayed a villian. I like what Bendis is doing with him.
Jubilee - No complaints.
Iceman - No complaints.
Gambit - I could care less about this character.
Bishop - Once again, a character I don't care about.
Hellion - See above.
X-Man - Ditto.
Wolverine - Way overused. Needs to only be in 3 to 4 books a month (no avenger books). Needs to get his edge back.
Beast - I actually prefer Hank as an Avenger. I think his character was developed more when he served with that team. The constant mutations is ridiculous.
One thing that I dislike about Marvel's use of their X-Characters that they make new ones just to essentially forget about them 5 years later. Maggot, Marrow, Artie, Leech, Boomer, Skids, Rictor, nearly all of the New Mutants, and Generation X. Watch in 10 to 15 years no one will remember Glob, Morrison's Angel, Armor, Sharkgirl, or any of the new mutants popping up in ANX-Men.
One thing that I dislike about Marvel's use of their X-Characters that they make new ones just to essentially forget about them 5 years later. Maggot, Marrow, Artie, Leech, Boomer, Skids, Rictor, nearly all of the New Mutants, and Generation X. Watch in 10 to 15 years no one will remember Glob, Morrison's Angel, Armor, Sharkgirl, or any of the new mutants popping up in ANX-Men.
One thing that I dislike about Marvel's use of their X-Characters that they make new ones just to essentially forget about them 5 years later. Maggot, Marrow, Artie, Leech, Boomer, Skids, Rictor, nearly all of the New Mutants, and Generation X. Watch in 10 to 15 years no one will remember Glob, Morrison's Angel, Armor, Sharkgirl, or any of the new mutants popping up in ANX-Men.
Sad but true....
Definitely agree with this. Marvel just needs to stop creating new characters and use the ones they currently have. Some of the newer mutants haven't even had any good character development yet.
#9
Posted by tomchu
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Just Wolverine, because he's probably the most inconsistently written character in Marvel history, because he's appeared everywhere through history and has been written but a ton of writers on different books.
Personally, I feel Rogue has been ruined. She isn't the character I feel in love with...
Magneto and Emma are slipping as well especially in Marvel Now.... :/
Still mad about Jubilee being a vampire. It's like that storyline didn't exactly go anywhere...
I am sick to death of Wolverine. I would rather have Hope's annoying self be the face of X-men before I see Wolverine get forced into my face for no reason again..
Storm, Gambit, and Jean are on the right track and back on the upswing, imo. Hopefully they continue to get better.
Who the fock is this broad trying to impress ? You are not the real Jean Grey, you never will be. You're just a bratty little doppelganger who needs to find her way back to the 60s.
Who the fock is this broad trying to impress ? You are not the real Jean Grey, you never will be. You're just a bratty little doppelganger who needs to find her way back to the 60s.
Thank you.
I love Storm's face here-- She is like 'Say WHAT!?'
One thing that I dislike about Marvel's use of their X-Characters that they make new ones just to essentially forget about them 5 years later. Maggot, Marrow, Artie, Leech, Boomer, Skids, Rictor, nearly all of the New Mutants, and Generation X. Watch in 10 to 15 years no one will remember Glob, Morrison's Angel, Armor, Sharkgirl, or any of the new mutants popping up in ANX-Men.
Sad but true....
Definitely agree with this. Marvel just needs to stop creating new characters and use the ones they currently have. Some of the newer mutants haven't even had any good character development yet.
Who the fock is this broad trying to impress ? You are not the real Jean Grey, you never will be. You're just a bratty little doppelganger who needs to find her way back to the 60s.
Thank you.
I love Storm's face here-- She is like 'Say WHAT!?'
I would say every character had been written horribly over the years, although Marvel looks like they're trying to get some of the characters back on track. How long it will take before the characters are back to their old selves is unknown at this point.
#21
Posted by time
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- 4 months, 16 days ago
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@Rabbitearsblog said:
I would say every character had been written horribly over the years, although Marvel looks like they're trying to get some of the characters back on track. How long it will take before the characters are back to their old selves is unknown at this point.
I think "ruined" is a strong word, but I do think the quality of the universe has gone down since a few editorial and creative switches in the past few years. That being said, they really did a number on Scarlet Witch.
Professor X has always been a bit of a jerk - remember when he faked his death by having the Changeling take his place while he prepared to fight Lucifer, some one-note villain, and make Jean keep it a secret from the others? Or when he made the New Mutants break off their search for Xi'an without telling them why (it was because he sensed the Shadow King) and sent them off to vacation in Brazil? Or when he berated Scott when Scott explained that the new team (the All New, All Different Lineup) was older than the originals and needed to be treated as adults? So I don't necessarily think he was ever this benevolent presence and he was always manipulative.
Who the fock is this broad trying to impress ? You are not the real Jean Grey, you never will be. You're just a bratty little doppelganger who needs to find her way back to the 60s.
Thank you.
No, she isn't. Technically, given what we know about time travel, we might as well just consider her an alternate reality Jean like Kurt, and that Beast really traveled to an alternate timeline. I don't think any character besides Kang perfected time travel to the extent that they could reliably stay within one timeline.
As far as I'm concerned, the Jean Grey that was a corner stone of the X-Men, X-Factor and the original team is in a White Hot Room somewhere awaiting another story and writer to bring her back and this character may as well be another Madelyn Pryor.
I think "ruined" is a strong word, but I do think the quality of the universe has gone down since a few editorial and creative switches in the past few years. That being said, they really did a number on Scarlet Witch.
Professor X has always been a bit of a jerk - remember when he faked his death by having the Changeling take his place while he prepared to fight Lucifer, some one-note villain, and make Jean keep it a secret from the others? Or when he made the New Mutants break off their search for Xi'an without telling them why (it was because he sensed the Shadow King) and sent them off to vacation in Brazil? Or when he berated Scott when Scott explained that the new team (the All New, All Different Lineup) was older than the originals and needed to be treated as adults? So I don't necessarily think he was ever this benevolent presence and he was always manipulative.
I definitely think that Scarlet Witch had the worst end of everything over the last few years.
No character is "ruined." Sometimes they are written poorly or underused but they are never ruined. They will certainly get used in a cool way eventually. I'm also curious as to why you think the X-Men are ruined.
I agree with you that's a reason why I like comics how dad this series is sometime they will get it right.
#26
Posted by SUNMAN
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- 4 months, 16 days ago
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The whole X-men line has been pretty bad for the last 6 years. I don't care for the direction marvel has taken the franchise at all, and its not getting any better it just keeps going downhill
Honestly although I like the idea of Superior Spider-man Marvel seem intent on screwing him up for a long time now. It began with Sin's Past continued in Sin's Remembered and went on too One More Day! Seriously Marvel why do you hate him?
Recently, MARVEL, Daniel WAY, and Steve Dillion completely pissed all over Punisher that Greg Rucka build up for almost 2 years. Thank you very much Marvel.
I definitely agree with this, especially since Wolverine is constantly being shown having two different personalities depending on what event comes up.
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Posted by lorex
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This is not unique as some characters get placed on various back burners and when a creator wants to use them they want to put their oun mark on the character. Sometimes that works out fine and other times like with Wolverine there are so many different voices trying to tell stories with that character that the thing that made the character unique and great has been lost in the crowd. Thats not to say Wolverine has been on any creative backburners in fact with his character the opposite is the case he is overused to a gross amount. I guess I will compare Wolverine and Spider-Man. Spider-Man is for the most part in New York whether he is sole or with the Avengers, and most of what he does fits within a clearly defined window of actions, powers and abilities. Wolverine is all over the place and there is no control over the character at all. With some writers its as if the character can do no wrong at all. To me it seems that Marvel has given up on any type of continuity and will just throw him in wherever they want. Whats worse with Schism they fractured the X-Men leadership and Wolverine of all people is leading a school, even though he is never there and Kitty is the one running the school. Now with AvX over and Cyclops discraced Wolverine is the central leaders of the X-Men, which I really hate. Just think about this most people have only one job, Wolverine has many and there is no way to tell a coherent story about the character that way. I think they should limit the character to 3-4 books per month, but Marvel has shown through their actions that they would rather have a few good depictions of the character and several bad ones rather than focus on quality across the board.
No character is "ruined." Sometimes they are written poorly or underused but they are never ruined. They will certainly get used in a cool way eventually. I'm also curious as to why you think the X-Men are ruined.
I agree with you that's a reason why I like comics how dad this series is sometime they will get it right.
That's actually a reason why I don't like Marvel or DC's comics. You can have a string of great, character driven stories written by a phenomenal creative team with intriguing writing and eye blistering (in a good way) art which lays the groundwork for great things to come, and then have this legacy undermined when ill-conceived crossover events, bad writing teams, subpar art and new, executive-mandated editorial directions switch around lineups and titles. Then the shlock is mixed in with the quality material, but it is all considered canon. This is why I love creator owned and/or creator driven series like "Invincible", "Artesia" or "The Mouse Guard": you just get this great consistency, and it is easier for each story to mean something. For example, Chris Claremont and John Byrne collectively had an unprecedented run of 20+ combined years that basically established the stories and character dynamics we all identify as "The Essential X-Men", and while there have been some great writing teams to tell new stories, the fact is that it was the consistency that really allowed the property to gain steam to become a sales juggernaut.
@AgeofHurricane: Dude I would not trust you in a isolated room with Bendis, man.
A host of characters have been raped to be certain but the ones that bother me are not the ones that got the "shaft" per se, but the ones that just act out of character. Cyclops is a notable one, Angel is another. Actually the O5 are the most abused it seems to me. I truly wonder if modern writers even read the back issues of the comics they are supposed to create content for, speaking nothing of editors who let this sh!te slide...
This is not unique as some characters get placed on various back burners and when a creator wants to use them they want to put their oun mark on the character. Sometimes that works out fine and other times like with Wolverine there are so many different voices trying to tell stories with that character that the thing that made the character unique and great has been lost in the crowd. Thats not to say Wolverine has been on any creative backburners in fact with his character the opposite is the case he is overused to a gross amount. I guess I will compare Wolverine and Spider-Man. Spider-Man is for the most part in New York whether he is sole or with the Avengers, and most of what he does fits within a clearly defined window of actions, powers and abilities. Wolverine is all over the place and there is no control over the character at all. With some writers its as if the character can do no wrong at all. To me it seems that Marvel has given up on any type of continuity and will just throw him in wherever they want. Whats worse with Schism they fractured the X-Men leadership and Wolverine of all people is leading a school, even though he is never there and Kitty is the one running the school. Now with AvX over and Cyclops discraced Wolverine is the central leaders of the X-Men, which I really hate. Just think about this most people have only one job, Wolverine has many and there is no way to tell a coherent story about the character that way. I think they should limit the character to 3-4 books per month, but Marvel has shown through their actions that they would rather have a few good depictions of the character and several bad ones rather than focus on quality across the board.
I definitely agree with all this! Wolverine is probably the character who suffers the most because he is all over the place and there is no consistent characteristic to his character. Maybe if only one writer writes Wolverine, then his character might get better organized over time.
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