So Scott-Jean is now officialy over lol ( ANXM 15 Spoilers)

#1 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

So now I guess Jean-Beast are gonna be a couple lol. Scott will be kinda pissed off when he learns of it, but at least he & Bobby got the phone numbers of 3 other girls, so it's a decent start for them, haha.

And the Rachel-Jean meeting was completely botched by Bendis. He could have done so much with it, but instead we just get a few panels of them looking at each other & walking away.

And I am willing to bet that Beast will get an optic blast or two to the face sometime in future haha. Not a bad issue and the Scott-Bobby team is just badass.

#2 Edited by JohnnyGat (1573 posts) - - Show Bio

At first when I saw Stuart Immonen wasn't doing the art I was somewhat bummed but I red it anyway and well I liked it. Granted it's something I wouldn't want to always see for this type of book but for the feel of the issue it worked perfectly.

#3 Edited by JeffimusPrime (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that there is a lot more to the jean and hank relationship than it appears to be. Since the 05 came to the future, they have said how unhappy they are with what they have become, jean dying, Cyclops killing Xavier. They seem to be looking for a ways to help the present but also change their past. Jean is hanging out with older beast hearing in his thoughts about how different life may have been if he had the courage to tell her how he felt. Jean then runs off to younger hank knowing how he feels and kisses him. It struck me more like an attempt to change their lives rather than having feelings for him back. She never says she feels the same way just that she doesn't love Scott. The bit with the wedding invitation at the end could either be a bit like back to the future were she is seeing if it has changed or maybe it is showing that perhaps she does have feelings for Scott and is trying to change the past. Either way I think she is using hanks feelings rather than having actual feelings for him. I think she is trying to change what happened to her but I think this will end up hurting hank the long run. I'm not convinced that Scott and jean getting together is over either. Does that make any kind of Sense? Or am I just thinking a bunch of rubbish?

#4 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3599 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that there is a lot more to the jean and hank relationship than it appears to be. Since the 05 came to the future, they have said how unhappy they are with what they have become, jean dying, Cyclops killing Xavier. They seem to be looking for a ways to help the present but also change their past. Jean is hanging out with older beast hearing in his thoughts about how different life may have been if he had the courage to tell her how he felt. Jean then runs off to younger hank knowing how he feels and kisses him. It struck me more like an attempt to change their lives rather than having feelings for him back. She never says she feels the same way just that she doesn't love Scott. The bit with the wedding invitation at the end could either be a bit like back to the future were she is seeing if it has changed or maybe it is showing that perhaps she does have feelings for Scott and is trying to change the past. Either way I think she is using hanks feelings rather than having actual feelings for him. I think she is trying to change what happened to her but I think this will end up hurting hank the long run. I'm not convinced that Scott and jean getting together is over either. Does that make any kind of Sense? Or am I just thinking a bunch of rubbish?

That makes sense. It's probably true. It's annoying to think about, but if Jean and Scott never got together, the X-Men would have disbanded after their first graduation and Hank's feelings would have caused a lot of problems for Charles, Warren and Scott.

Anyway, it feels too forced. We've known Hank and Jean for years - hung out in their thought bubbles and even seen them on missions. There has never been any romantic feelings between them and if anything, their relationship has always been more like siblings than anything else.

#5 Edited by CTG (231 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeffimusprime said:

I think that there is a lot more to the jean and hank relationship than it appears to be. Since the 05 came to the future, they have said how unhappy they are with what they have become, jean dying, Cyclops killing Xavier. They seem to be looking for a ways to help the present but also change their past. Jean is hanging out with older beast hearing in his thoughts about how different life may have been if he had the courage to tell her how he felt. Jean then runs off to younger hank knowing how he feels and kisses him. It struck me more like an attempt to change their lives rather than having feelings for him back. She never says she feels the same way just that she doesn't love Scott. The bit with the wedding invitation at the end could either be a bit like back to the future were she is seeing if it has changed or maybe it is showing that perhaps she does have feelings for Scott and is trying to change the past. Either way I think she is using hanks feelings rather than having actual feelings for him. I think she is trying to change what happened to her but I think this will end up hurting hank the long run. I'm not convinced that Scott and jean getting together is over either. Does that make any kind of Sense? Or am I just thinking a bunch of rubbish?

I think you're making a bunch of sense and I never thought of it like that. I think what seals it is her going back to the wedding invitation on the last page. Until your post, I didn't get what Bendis was trying to imply, but now it all makes sense.

Throughout the entire series thus far, Jean has been stressed/traumatized by what the future holds for her. Hearing Beast's thoughts gives her the idea that perhaps she CAN change things by making different choices. Young Angel, who she had a thing for once upon a time, left the group and she doesn't like what Scott has become - as well as her fate being closely tied to her relationship with him. She suddenly learns Young Beast is in love with her and makes the decision to try to change her fate.

I think the wedding invitation being there and still reading "Scott & Jean" may have brought about the realization that changing your fate isn't as easy as she thought it would be.

@avenger85 You should change the name of the thread for two reasons:

  1. It's an assumption - we've talked about this before.
  2. It already partially spoils what happens, when that's the entire mystery of the issue: "Is the cover a misdirection or is it actually happening?"
#6 Edited by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Hank. See the avatar.

Scott? Not so much. So I approve.

#7 Posted by Lukas988 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeffimusprime: You make a lot of sense, but i don't think the page with the wedding invitation was kinda "back to the future", I think she was like regretting what she just did, cause, in the 60's Issues she had a crush on Scott since the begining.

#8 Edited by Rickbarry (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Hank in his 30's and Jean underage?

#9 Posted by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Edited by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

This how I see the issue. Jean knows how her and Scott are going to end up, so in an attempt to change that she is willing to move on, and beast seems like the most logical candidate at the moment. I don't she is using Hank, she is just trying to avoid the relationship with Scott.

#11 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3585 posts) - - Show Bio

isnt anyone concern about Dazzler(or is it mystique in disguise), why is (i think its suppose to be mystique) she so concern about the O5, shes not through with them.....plus maybe if the O5 go back to the past after BotA maybe mystique would take one of thier place...lol

How big are hank's hands,,,,0,o

#12 Posted by Rickbarry (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickbarry: Young Hank.

I always thought that Hank was well into his 20's when he was first introduced on the team.

#13 Posted by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

@hopesummersforthefuture said:

How big are hank's hands,,,,0,o

Well you know what they say about men with big... wait a minute. :)

@rickbarry Possibly. I thought he was still in high school or at least recently graduated. I do know he was playing high school football before joining the X-Men.

#14 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4704 posts) - - Show Bio

@knighthood said:

@rickbarry: Young Hank.

I always thought that Hank was well into his 20's when he was first introduced on the team.

He was 18, but he was a teenage genius. The rest were 17, except for Bobby who was 16.

#15 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3585 posts) - - Show Bio

@hopesummersforthefuture said:

How big are hank's hands,,,,0,o

Well you know what they say about men with big... wait a minute. :)

@rickbarry Possibly. I thought he was still in high school or at least recently graduated. I do know he was playing high school football before joining the X-Men.

lol

@rickbarry said:

@knighthood said:

@rickbarry: Young Hank.

I always thought that Hank was well into his 20's when he was first introduced on the team.

He was 18, but he was a teenage genius. The rest were 17, except for Bobby who was 16.

think i read in all-new x-men jean was 16 and bobby was 15

#16 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean's a slut, Cyke's a man-slut... They're made for each other. In time they'll be back together.

#17 Edited by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

To be honest, I enjoyed this issue, or at least half of it.

The whole Jean part, it didn't like at all. As much as I'm coming to like Jeen, I don't believe that making her stronger than her original 616 counterpart is the wise move to make. So really, now Jeen can pull TK feats who the original one achieved only while amped by the Phoenix Force? I mean, yeah ok, make her a little stronger than how she was at her age, but do not put her on Phoenix levels without the Force itself...

I also didn't like the Jean/Rachel meeting. I guess it would be awkward, of course, but avoiding it was an easy and quick way out of it, unless Bendis plans to continue it later.

Hank x Jeen, please, just please no... even though I'm pretty much sure that Jeen is only using Hank, trying to get over Scott now that she knows how screwed her relationship kind of is/will be.

And finally, the little Bobby's and Scott's little adventure was funny. I really liked them enjoying a nice "calm" day, without having to hide or fear the consequences of being Mutants, finding people that admire and want to be like them. That after all the future is not as old Hank really painted it, is not perfect, of course, but at least better than it used to be.

Bobby is cute in this issue, and I'm glad he's getting more than just on line. And if Jeen really wants to end things with Scott, then he and Bobby should just hook up, after all they sure have fun together. (?)

The art was nice, sure not as beautiful as Immonen's, but I enjoyed it.

#18 Posted by danhimself (22623 posts) - - Show Bio

@hopesummersforthefuture: Dazzler was recently taken on by SHIELD to be their mutant liaison...everyone has a huge issue with the O5 being in the present so it makes sense that SHIELD would have someone keeping an eye on them

#19 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3585 posts) - - Show Bio

@hopesummersforthefuture: Dazzler was recently taken on by SHIELD to be their mutant liaison...everyone has a huge issue with the O5 being in the present so it makes sense that SHIELD would have someone keeping an eye on them

but at that time didnt mystique take the place of dazzler by knocking her out......from uxm 9

also why is raven so obsess with the o5 especially teen scott and didnt mystique say that she wanted teen scott to kill his older self???? from anxm7

#20 Edited by Dayvid3 (815 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder if beast was intentionally letting his thoughts leak to screw up Scott. He is smart enough to know he should be on guard around a young telepath who can, and doesn't seem to much want to, stop hearing other people's thoughts. He probably did think she was cute when young though, that's normal.

#21 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3585 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayvid3 said:

Wonder if beast was intentionally letting his thoughts leak to screw up Scott. He is smart enough to know he should be on guard around a young telepath who can, and doesn't seem to much want to, stop hearing other people's thoughts. He probably did think she was cute when young though, that's normal.

lol thats what i thought too.....this is just to get back at scott

#22 Edited by danhimself (22623 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself said:

@hopesummersforthefuture: Dazzler was recently taken on by SHIELD to be their mutant liaison...everyone has a huge issue with the O5 being in the present so it makes sense that SHIELD would have someone keeping an eye on them

but at that time didnt mystique take the place of dazzler by knocking her out......from uxm 9

also why is raven so obsess with the o5 especially teen scott and didnt mystique say that she wanted teen scott to kill his older self???? from anxm7

who knows if this happened before or after Uncanny though...I mean why would Mystique be spying on the O5 as Dazzler when she could just be some random person in the crowd

#23 Posted by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

Hank did it on purpose. Unless he went completely and full retard.

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