I think X Men would work better as a live action series than a movie. That way there would be more time for character development and roster changes. What do you people think?
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The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.
Should they make a live action X Men series?
They certainly should. The roster should be Colossus, Beast, Nightcrawler, Darwin, and Shadowcat. These character's abilities would not cost very much production-wise (you could give Darwin a limited set of adaptations that are simply prosthetics/suits and have Nightcrawlers "bamfing" be actual smoke instead of computer generated) and I like them all with the exception of Shadowcat.
@John Valentine: lol i was just about to say we had Mutant X
we had Mutant X , Heroes, and now Alphas . too much liscensing issues and not enough of a demographic is why we get made up characters like in the shows i mentioned , and in all honesty , if it comes out anything like the Walking Dead show (horrible, horrible , horrible, horrible , horrible) ill be happy knowing that there is no X-team show on the air.i rather no show than a poorly executed, chopped up ,butchered POS.
No. Robust special effects would be very important to do the story and characters justice and the cost prevents this from happening. TBH I would be disappointed if they only used X-Men with physical mutants to save money since this would be boring.
if they used the type of settings from lost and even the most recent star trek series or battlestar galactica they might be able to pull something off. It would be the only show of its kind on air and judging by the number of ticket sold for the movies it would probably do some good ratings. Of course you could do animated but it would have to be top notch like the movies
Don't forget the Generation X Pilot that was meant to be a TV series.@John Valentine: lol i was just about to say we had Mutant X
we had Mutant X , Heroes, and now Alphas . too much liscensing issues and not enough of a demographic is why we get made up characters like in the shows i mentioned , and in all honesty , if it comes out anything like the Walking Dead show (horrible, horrible , horrible, horrible , horrible) ill be happy knowing that there is no X-team show on the air.i rather no show than a poorly executed, chopped up ,butchered POS.
Generation X was a okay movie, i remember that.
But no they shouldn't make an x-men series unless someone like Whedon does it, you know someone who actually cares about the material and not just the marketing. It would be complete garbage if the series was just made to sell stuff. Or if they get the writers of the first season of Heroes to do the entire series they could do it right, and plan it out in the directions they want to go. Because after Season 1, Heroes completely started to come apart.
I'd rather watch an x-men series featuring the original 5 than this Shield Initiative thing we're getting. Ideally, x-men would be a tv show instead of a movie, with all the teams and characters. But even with that, it would still only focus on the same handful of characters. And it would be canceled because there is no way it would ever generate enough buzz.
If they could convince Hugh Jackman to come over as Wolverine (considering Wolverine's drop in, drop out, nomadic style, this could work) and convince Patrick Stewart to return to television as Prof X, sure, I'd watch it. If they also brought in some new talent to play the roles, and didn't cheap out on the special effects. Some of the things in the movies that really sold the mutant powers was how casually they were used, like Bobby Drake blowing on a coke to chill it. Don't treat the effects like effects to be shown only in special circumstances, and it'd work.
@SoA said:
@John Valentine: lol i was just about to say we had Mutant X
we had Mutant X , Heroes, and now Alphas . too much liscensing issues and not enough of a demographic is why we get made up characters like in the shows i mentioned , and in all honesty , if it comes out anything like the Walking Dead show (horrible, horrible , horrible, horrible , horrible) ill be happy knowing that there is no X-team show on the air.i rather no show than a poorly executed, chopped up ,butchered POS.
Why don't you like the "Walking Dead" show?
@PhoenixoftheTides: i felt they deviated waaay too far from the path , small subtle changes are fine (name changes , hell they do not even have to be in atlanta ) but the only way for the show to convey emotion is someone crying their eyes out every episode,changing a characters personality to a bland stereotype , killing off crucial characters so crappy one off characters can live, making up characters not so we can see more zombie action but for them to outshine the main character , is just too much for me . i have seen one and a half seasons and im done ive heard it got "better" with the introduction to characters from the comic , but i feel for one character its a little too far in and i do not see them adapting right for such a (really) simple concept .
i have had fans of the show read the walking dead comic and they actually like it better than the show , one still watches since its a family thing at her house and she likes giving out spoilers , but eh what you gonna do? to me its a show that has zombies and has the same name as the comic it was a real let down from shane not getting shot in the neck onward.
if you are a fan of the show but never read the comic , read it. if you read the comic and show i do not understand . to me , this is the x-men origins: wolverine of shows .
An X-Men live action is doable.I don't see why we can't have a x-films and a t.v show at the same time.If anything, the t.v show will make the films popular.
Super powers isn't a big problem.They're doable.Visual mutations and flight are the ones that cost a lot.Somebody like Mystquie couldn't be on there.Iceman's couldn't be there either unless he wears an ice suit.
@SoA said:
@PhoenixoftheTides: i felt they deviated waaay too far from the path , small subtle changes are fine (name changes , hell they do not even have to be in atlanta ) but the only way for the show to convey emotion is someone crying their eyes out every episode,changing a characters personality to a bland stereotype , killing off crucial characters so crappy one off characters can live, making up characters not so we can see more zombie action but for them to outshine the main character , is just too much for me . i have seen one and a half seasons and im done ive heard it got "better" with the introduction to characters from the comic , but i feel for one character its a little too far in and i do not see them adapting right for such a (really) simple concept .
i have had fans of the show read the walking dead comic and they actually like it better than the show , one still watches since its a family thing at her house and she likes giving out spoilers , but eh what you gonna do? to me its a show that has zombies and has the same name as the comic it was a real let down from shane not getting shot in the neck onward.
if you are a fan of the show but never read the comic , read it. if you read the comic and show i do not understand . to me , this is the x-men origins: wolverine of shows .
At least the walking dead comic never had budget problems.In the t.v show,during season 2, the cast stayed in the farm the entire season because of budget problems.They even killed of certain characters to save money.
I actually thought that they might do well with a new mutants series because unless you could get the actors like Jackman and others to get in on the tv series it might be hard for some people to accept. With a New Mutants thing you could still have guess appearances by the big guys
@moywar700: something should have done to save on effects: make the show black and white . as far as gunshots and gore they could use anything since with a black and white project they didn't have to worry about blood not looking red enough ,etc plus it would have paid homage to the style of the comic
I was about to say that they should make a live action X-Men TV series, but after mentioning about the budgeting problems it would have because of the special affects for the characters' powers, it would be too difficult to make an X-Men live action series.
@John Valentine said:
God no. Mutant X was the closest thing we had to that and it was terrible!
So I'm NOT the only person who remembers that abomination!
I think they could have done a Smallville-esque scenario and had the characters discovering their powers, meeting eachother for the first time, etc. but now that they've made First Class having a series like that would be purely pointless. I just don't know how a series based on the core group of X Men (And by that I mean Wolverine, Prof. X, Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Gambit, Rogue....the list goes on) would work, seeing as how the cast of the films have done such a brilliant job with their roles. Anyone who would come in after would come under much scrutiny for replacing the actors. I dunno, a classic X Force TV show would be awesome. But it wouldn't be plausible.
@White Mage said:
@John Valentine said:
God no. Mutant X was the closest thing we had to that and it was terrible!
So I'm NOT the only person who remembers that abomination!
LMAOOO! 'abomination'. Anytime an x-film goes bad. I always remember it could be worse.
A Movie > TV Show
More Bang factor.
There is no way you could get a budget that would cover real talent and the special effects budget, the show would be destined to suck in all likelihood. Even HBO would be hard pressed to cover the freight on this kind of series. So you are either stuck with real actors and no effects, or a bunch of talentless clowns and half a$$ effects.
X-Men or Avengers are not the IP to try to do a live action TV show with, no way to do it right on the small screen.
I didn't give Mutant X a chance, I know it had a few watchers. Alpha's I quite enjoy, its a good mix off powers the power man, hacker, trick shot, ... its been a while since last time I saw it. Wasn't sure if the show would last but it was well done for a weekly show and not like Heroes were you had to watch every episode to get in.
As for X-Men being a show, Gen X was a failure. You'd have to get the mutants that arn't going to cost tons of CGI for a weekly show. Maybe turn the current X-Factor Investigation team into a show, but then you have X-Factor the American Idolish show that'll cause confusion.
@Rabidwolfdog: I was just talking about what a good show X-factor investigations would make! I'd watch the shit out of that show!
@dangallant984 said:
@Rabidwolfdog: I was just talking about what a good show X-factor investigations would make! I'd watch the shit out of that show!
Yes!
Hannah Simone as Monet.
If they did it right, it'd be awesome (well, duh). I'd totally watch it, until (if) it became super-terrible. I'm too much of a fan to ignore it.
I would think the SFX budget would be a little pricey though.
It's main strength would be the amount of time it would have to develop the characters, given that it gets the proper treatment. The budget on the other hand. I think it could work though, given the proper budget.
@rabidwolfdog: I would love an X-Factor Investigations show but I think it may be a bit too similar to Alphas, which was cancelled.
Make it like the MCU shows: be set in the same universe and centre around a group of mutants, but other than that have little to do with the films.
@white_mage: of course, they had to completely retool the series concept when Fox sued for 'damaging' the X movie franchise. It actually WAS going to be a true X-Men series (remember, Marvel still had control over TV rights), but Fox didn't want competition, or confusion, on the relationship.
I would go crazy....!!! I would be so awesome watching the students battle it out with each other... just think of the teams or groups... imagine the battle between jean grey school and avengers academy... i realy hopethat if they do it, its not one of those from the beginning BS marvel use to pull... it should be like behind the seen they have been facing the mutant affairs and now its actually started affecting the live of lets say spider-man or she-hulk has to sue them or something...
Which can't be said about January Jones. lol poor girl, nobody liked her performance. Though I don't think she's a bad actress, I've seen her on Mad Men and she was actually ok. Well, for that season I've actually seen. She is maybe good at playing those emotionally distant, aloof "introverts", she absolutely doesn't fit to play somebody like Emma. Now that I think about that, I hove no fan-choice for who should really play her.
If budget wouldn't be an issue then I'd be for it. The other thing is which characters they'd use? Would they choose a certain group of students? If so would it be the new mutants, new X-men, or the JGS students (ew)? If not students then which adult X-men would be chosen? Prof. X, Cyclops, Beast, Storm, and Wolverine seem to always be present in every show. From there though, there's also the question of Jean and/or Emma where Wolverine and the X-Men actually had Emma the whole time mostly in place of Jean (which I ended up liking). From there X-Men like Nightcrawler, Iceman, Angel, Colossus, Rogue, Gambit, and Jubilee being in or out could go either way.
I think if they were able to snag a few of the movie characters who'd be willing to do television (maybe Rogue, Iceman & Colossus) and set them up as instructors for the New Mutants Cypher, Mirage, Rictor & Piotr's little sis, Illyana and introduce Forge and Cecelia Reyes.
Illyana's unpredictable stepping discs have the potential to take the team to the outreaches of space, through time and other dimensions.
No. A television series would not have the budget to make the X-Men's powers look good.
this is a good point but sad at the same time
No. A television series would not have the budget to make the X-Men's powers look good.
this is a good point but sad at the same time
There is going to be a series about the hellfire club coming out. We will be seeing Shaw and probably Emma Frost again. I doubt we will be seeing Shaw using his powers like he did in First Class, but he don't really need to.
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