Certain mutants have been confirmed Omega-level status which include:

Apocalypse:

Jean Grey:

Vulcan:

Rachel Summer:

Iceman:

Legion:

Proteus:

Franklin Richards:

(I'm sure I might missed a few, but if you know any other please confirm them. Thanks..)

Some abilities portrayed by mutants described as Omega-level include immortality, extreme manipulation of matter and energy...high level of psionic ability...strong or extremely versatile telekinetic, or the potential to exist beyond the boundaries of the known physical universe.

Magneto's control over magnetism...Prof-X's mental telephatic are two examples of this type of capacity. Nonetheless...neither Prof-X nor Magneto's potentials have been established as Omega-level. On the other hand...when their two powers were combined as Onslaught, they were simply the most powerful human entity on Earth to have ever existed (remember that?). I guess neither Magneto or Prof-X allowed anyone to find out the limits of their powers. Apparently Magneto (according to the wiki) can also create force fields, create teleportation wormholes, rearrange matter on the atomic level, warp light to make himself invisible. With those combined with his advanced TK metal powers I thought that makes him a pretty potent mutant. So...why isn't he considered to be at an Omega-level status? Isn't magnetism one of the four fundamental forces? In the comics, at least, his power is not just controlling metal...it's controlling electromagnetic force. Magneto is the most powerful telekinetic character in Marvel...I believe. Ok...he might be pretty god d..m powerful and he might not be Omega-level, but he can surely beat Omega levels since he knows just how to use his power to benefit him...in my opinion.

I'm I right? Does this make sense? Can this be possible? Can all this be determined by the writers? Ain't he's powerful enough to destroy the Earth? Who can really explain the different between powerful and Omega-level? I'm just confuse...

There are several characters that I think could possibly fit into omega status but for me and this isn't just because I am a big fan, but I really think Storm needs that classification if she doesn't already have it, I say this based on something that happened in the comics yearrrrrs ago before the omega stuff came about.

Rogue Storm.

If Storm could learn to control that then she would be considered Omega surely. Plus she can see everything as energy, so you aren't telling me that she couldn't learn to control it enough to access those pieces of energy.

God I wish Emma would be chummy with Storm and go "I have kept this from you... you are an omega... Here is an unlock"

X-Man is an Omega level mutant. Stryfe too. Cable should be as well but I think has only been called an omega level telekinetic on-panel

Apocalypse and Proteus are not Omegas btw.

I really stopped caring about the term, maybe it did mean something in the beginning, but so much has changed since I don't really think even the writers know what to do with that title besides entitling their pet characters lol

Magneto is an Alpha-level with Omega feats. Only difference is Omegas have unlimited potential while there's a certain limit to Alphas.

magneto, prof x, apocalypse and storm are not omega because they have limited potentials. what they can do have been enumerated or are known already.

storm have a vast of skills and feats under her sleeves but doing complex feats burns her out fast.

A good example of not burning out fast and having power to be called omega is when rachel and psylocke(both have tk and tp) shared their strength to make a force field big enough to cover a city. Psylocke said she can't hold on much longer when rachel still kept the force field together and was even able to send back the energy beam fired by the shiar spaceship.

magneto and prof x combined is onslaught=pure psionic energy. most powerful BEFORE. Then came O5 jean who can now transform into pure psionic energy at will. Does this mean she is now the most powerful being on earth? well, she can be.

Let us consider that onslaught's powers and feats were strengthened a number of times due to x-man's and franklin's powers.

with shaman x-man, he's been downplayed by writers after realizing that even with his great dark phoenix-like powers, he still didn't get to be famous. He wasn't able to get out of Jean and cable's shadows.

With apocalypse, i think he wasn't considered an omega level because he has to rely on hosts or absorbing others' powers or life force. im not sure. though, in my own opinion, he is.

OMEGA LEVEL is but a mere label. wouldn't even matter or be of use in some cases. Some can reach GOD-like powers without even stepping into the OMEGA level status.

At the end of the day, powerful as some may be, it is still the writers' decision who to call omega and not. unless MARVEL announces that your mutant is omega, your mutant is still leveled below the OMEGA levels powerwise.

Elixir is also an omega level mutant

I'd say Magnus is powerful and should be consider in omega imo. Dont that not what powerful stand for?. He done so much more that we can't ever imagine. here it is why.

Raw Power

- Can knock the planet off it's exist

- Can can shutdown one's nervous system and brain function with focus EMP.

- Can possibly shut down all electrical equipment.

- Can use different types of energy through EM spectrum.

- Can create Worm-holes

- Can create astral Project of his image

- Keeps his asteroid base in orbit.

- Surrounded the planet with nukes.

- Can hinder the powers of telepaths by creating a EMP field.

- Can reverse the polarity of people and objects cause people/objects to float up into air as if gravity were reversed. (or Propel a person at high speed horizontally akin to a telekinetic blast)

Shield

- Can endure Blackbolt screams

- Can endure a nuclear explosion

- Can endure Thor's hammer. (Though at one point, Thor could easily negate it)

- Can endure attacks from superhumans such as She-Hulk.

- Can keep out teleporters

- Can shield himself from telepaths without a helmet.

- Can ward most non-metallic objects.

Passive

- Is empowered by freezing attacks (Storm trying to freeze him)

- Is or should be immune to electrical attacks (Via TAS)

- Can see and sense using EM spectrum.

- Can detect most types of metal.

These are just a few of his abilities as he has done a lot over 50ish years.. and dont this indicate that he should be place in a particular position/or declare as an omega level? Writers face the ignominy of losing the fact of what is a omega level. hahahaha

Mr. M

they're boring tho. most tp/tk users.

I have never understood or liked the decision to start identifying mutants with certain classifications like "omega level". It seems like something a teenage kid would do when writing fan fiction

I mean if a mutant is very powerful, then they are very powerful or have the potential to be more powerful. Jean, or the Phoenix construct of Jean, would get defeated rather easily by Magneto, but when she lost control, she was way too powerful. So the classification is inconsistent.

Or someone like Proteus is considered very powerful, yes, however, if he is surrounded by a bunch of metal he wouldn't be much of a threat.

considering she's done more impressive things since then i agree BUT her global and continent level feats burn her out .. if it was ghost panther (basically storm without a body) then yes .. not to mention her molecular/subatomic/atomic control over the elements .. i have no idea why the heck she hasn't started doing some weird things that would leave people like WHAT THE HELL DID SHE JUST DO!? O_O

@cattlebattle proteus has been defeated by metal!? :/

Omega simply implies limitless potential. Magneto is a powerful mutant, but he's so powerful because he's AT his full potential. He can do some crazy stuff, but he has limits, and thus he's not omega. He once created an electromagnetic storm which blanketed most of, if not the entire planet, knocking out all unshielded electronics in the process. Although his feats "seem" omega level, when we talk about omega mutants at full potential we're talking about, say, iceman being functionally immortal and able to freeze things to absolute zero which effectively also stops time in that area since physics sort of breaks at 0k. I hope this help because it is confusing to classify the mutants into groups.

The Omega-class metahuman is the Alpha-level mutant (any normal, trained mutant in the Marvel Universe) taken to an extreme. An Omega-level mutant is one with the most powerful genetic potential and expression of their mutant abilities. And if we all considered Magneto powerful, for many people out there will get the understanding that since he's powerful... he's an Omega.

Speaking from my experience, Magneto is capable of manipulating magnetic forces both at the macroscopic and the microscopic levels. His control over magnetic forces gives him control of metals whether they be ferrous or nonferrous. Thor's hammer Mjolnir (made from Asgardian Uru) and Captain America's shield (made of Proto-Adamantium) or Wolverine's Beta Adamantium skeleton have been affected by Magneto's powers. Only specially-designed ceramics or plastics can resist direct manipulation via his powers.

He has used his powers to manipulate and build complex machinery and can hold a large number of objects in precise patterns until he is ready to construct the device. Coupled with his genius-level intellect, he has created a wide array of technological achievements and devices.

He can manipulate magnetic fields to generate powerful electromagnetic pulses and can even manipulate photons warping light around himself becoming invisible. He can manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum so that he may generate lightning bolts, emit vast amounts of infrared radiation or even manipulate the force of gravity. He is capable of generating electromagnetic barriers capable of resisting nuclear weapons and can exist in deep space using these fields to protect himself from radiation. He is able to propel himself at near-light speeds. He has also been able to generate wormholes to travel through space, teleporting himself and others safely.

He is able to channel his powers inward, increasing his strength, durability and reflexes. He can manipulate chemical bonds allowing him to rearrange matter (though doing this puts great strain on his powers). He is innately resistant to all but the most powerful telepathic assaults and when he utilizes his powers, he is completely immune to telepathy, suggestion or domination-based telepathic attacks.

Magneto is mutant, so in an earth inhabitant and he can be put in the list.

With all of magneto and storm's feats, i can't believe that they were not much great use in AVX.

@cattlebattle: I agree with this.

I hate the classifications. I dont think it really matters about what level or class mutant it is.

@moonlighterstone: as powerful as Magneto is - and few come close - he has SHOWN ON PAGE many times that he has limits to his powers. Unlimited Potential is the one consistent and inarguable requirement for Omega Status. Magneto lacks this criteria.

really? that sort of thing happens all the time with the monstrously powerful characters who aren't central to the story-line.

What i mean is, magneto and storm could have taken down many of the avengers with ease but both were downplayed. not much of what they can do were shown or used in the battle.

He's one of the most powerful mutants. In a way, that, I suppose, if he wanted to tip Earth from its axis, he'd cause natural disasters on a global scale. Lets face it, Magneto is powerful.

And what about Exodus? It makes me cry he doesn't get credit for being one of the most powerful mutants on the planet. He was always one of my favs characters back in the 90's. Blood Ties really showed how overwhelmingly powerful he is.

Oh look, another one of these threads.

@viperians: Oh noes, I'm being scolded by someone totally new to this site! Whatever will I DO?

@viperians said:

@squares said:

@viperians: Oh noes, I'm being scolded by someone totally new to this site! Whatever will I DO?

See previous, it applies equally well to what you just posted.

@viperians:

Magneto's power may be limited to magnetism, but he has absolute control over it. Add to that his proven track record of taking on formidable foes and Magneto is QUITE A CONTENDER.

i am in NO WAY downplaying how powerful Magneto is. He is phenomenally powerful. HOWEVER, his limitations are apparent and repeatedly shown. He cannot be an omega if he has such limitations to his powers.

Well actually Mags has access to the electromagnetic spectrum to... so basically all energy is subject to his WILL in one way or ANOTHER. Magneto has gone through a number of changes is his long career. And again, he has to be POWERFUL if he's to battle an entire team of mutants single-handedly. He actually has a better understanding than most anyone of his own limits and potential, especially more than frost would.

Omega level has become a term I absolutely ignore. For some fans of the characters, they think Omega level means my character should never lose at anytime period.

Omega to me means nothing. I'm happy some characters get time to shine, but to make them so "God" is silly. I like weak mutants, mid level mutants, and super powerful ones.

i completely agree with you on all you've just said - excepting the "all energy" part. However, that's still not making Magneto an Omega, no matter how you want to paint it. Magneto has shown MANY instances of limitations to his powers. As vast as they are, they are not infinite.

Also, try and remember, Magneto's powers are currently broken. He's barely hanging on to Alpha status.

Not true, it was stated many times that he has yet to reach his full potential.

@adamtrmm: Could you point out some specific examples of these "many" instances please?

Can you post scans of these feats? Mags is one of the most interesting characters in comics that Marvel produce. I wolud certainly enjoy if you could post some in this thread.

Anyways back to the topic. I think Mags is an omega although I can't remember if in the X-men Universe he was classified as one. but I do seem to remember that SHIELD classified Storm as an Omega level mutant.

@ageofhurricane:

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During the 90s there was another instance I cannot really specify, also said by Xavier IIRC.

What, you thought I'm fanwanking over here without having the evidence? I thought I'd have a little of credit :(

@moonlighterstone:

I heard that Dazzler was an Omega level? Not sure though, as I'm still new to the [real] X-Men (curse those movies).

that's a very popular online belief... unsupported by the books tho.

Ha. I'm certain he can destroy the planet by messing with the magnetic fields. Doesn't he control one of the fundamental forces of nature? In House of M they stated that Magneto doesn't just control magnetic forces, he controls the laws of physics themselves. He simply didn't use those powers because he was afraid they'd get out of control and eat the planet or something. I would say a big problem for Magneto is his age, but then again, his potential seems to go to an extreme.

Yes, his power are currently broken (I agree), but not for a very long time. Try to remember that Marvel always bring revelation.

I thought U'D agree with that part the most. It's an electrical energy that exists in every dimension, every universe, and every era. It touches every part of reality, it is an electric force that Magneto could absolutely manipulate.

Yes, sir.

His weakness is metal. This is how Colossus defeats him in the Proteus arc and it is also the reason why Moira carries around a gun to put him down...because of the metal in the bullet. Its kind of silly to be considered "omega level" or whatever when you your weakness is an extremely common material

Those R the rumors ever since Galactus exposed her to the sound of entire galaxy, exploding to boost her power level to transduce sound to various forms of light. And even with this level power... she was defeated by Magneto.

@darthphoenix:

AVX really turned into the Marvel Universe VS Cyclops. I really wish they'd stop ragging on Cyclops. He really was right. He was using the Phoenix power for good. It wasn't until the Avengers kept stepping in that made them all snap. Yes, they had the right to be worried, I guess. But if it wasn't for their interference, it'd be such a peaceful place.

Cyclops was right!

@cattlebattle: i can't even fathom .. let me guess its PIS right? it has to be .. this is way too much ...

Nah. Back when the original story was written..there was no such thing as putting mutants in different power brackets. Some mutants were just powerful, for instance Jean Grey was super powerful, but she could also defeated by Magneto, because her being uber powerful is a story telling device.

I couldn't agree more. if Capt America had minded his own f***ing business the Phoenix would have ascended into Hope, she would have released it, and all the fighting and deaths would have been avoided. if Cap and Cyclops could talk like reasonable people. But that doesn't explain massive amounts of hero fighting each other for Marvel to sell. Ever since Magneto lost his power, X men R treated badly, and now the Avengers R the #1 in Marvel. But It's ok because it won't be for long. X men will rise once again and so will Magneto.

I see. Looks like that myth was busted then. lol

I know Meggan isn't an X-Man but she is definitely an omega!

@abaldo: who's meggan?

@holyserpent: Might mean the Meggan who is a part of Excalibur