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The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.
Most Powerful Mutant of All Time
Also, you seem to have not read the something that I have already posted here. I am not only quoting another forums user. I will quote myself once again.
"Jean Grey becoming White Phoenix of the Crown is the final stage on Jean Grey's natural mutant evolution."
You are welcome.
LOL." @crimsonspider89 said:
" White Phoenix of the Crown can alter timelines and the universe as a whole with ease. She has endless power, she is the strongest mutant of all time. "Jaspers was capable of altering the entire omniverse. Want to try again? "
Oh, by the way, the question at hand is, "who is the most powerful 'mutant,' not who are the most powerful 'mutants.'" You said, Thanos and Jaspers. As if Thanos would be a match for Jaspers.
I didn't see him mentioned here, but what about David Haller (Legion) when his mind was finally healed he pretty much stomped on the X-Men without a second thought, went back in time was beating the crap out of the X-Men the were caught in his temporal wake and was going to kill Magneto before his future father (Xavier) jumped in at the last second and sacrificed himself.
WPOTC is psionic energy personified and can change the timeline with EASE. This means she has endless power. Jasper went nuts after he altered the omniverse and the phoenix force is the origin of all life force in the universe. WPOTC is immune to reality warping since she is the universe due to her being the Phoenix Force and Jean combined into one being. She is an omnipotent being who is unbeatable.
Translation: You have no source." @Korg: LOL. You are telling me to read "actual comics," but this statement does indeed come from the comics. How ironic. : ) " I told you that I would shoot, but you didn't believe me! Why didn't you believe me? Why didn't you believe me? Why didn't you believe me?" LMAO. "
@crimsonspider89 said:
So Jean is The One-Above-All. Well, you learn something new every day."She is an omnipotent being who is unbeatable. "
@gokudo said:
" the most powerful mutant ever? onslaught "Onslaught was a psionic entity, not a mutant.
Hyperstorm can control everything on a molecular level as well and can activate more powers than one at a time.
WPOTC
Mad Jim Jasper
Hyperstorm
Legion
The Beyonder
you would think that a being of pure thought would not be limited to absorbing just mutants to make himself stronger, you would think he would be able to absorb any super being. he did manifest inside of a mutant, actually professor x was onslaught at first, being seperated from the other mutants actually made him stronger, he was no longer bound by limits, therefore becoming a being of pure mental energy. now imagine if he had absorbed the powers of every mutant on the planet, thats a guy i wouldnt wanna meet down a dark alley.
X-Man can beat Magneto, because he manipulates all matter at every level, whereas Magneto is restricted to Magnetism. You clearly haven't read X-Man's books and most likely have just gotten glimpses of him here and there in the past. There is, quite literally, nothing that X-Man can't do until he burns out. There is a reason why he had a limited lifespan--he had far too much raw power in his body. "The light that burns twice as bright, also burns twice as fast." However, during the Shaman saga that led to the (temporary) end of X-Man when he sacrificed himself, he merged temporarily with the other dimensional Nate Grey, which resulted in him getting some mark that removed that "curse".
X-Man is someone that can easily stand toe-to-toe with the Sentry, particularly since he seems to finally understand the full extent of his power after becoming the mutant shaman.
I've forgotten about Mad Jim Jaspers and Legion as well.
Regarding the original question--who is the most powerful mutant? The question itself is rigged and unanswerable. Add an 's' at the end of mutant, and we're good to go. Let Marvel actually create battles to determine winners between these omega-level mutants, because we sure as hell never will.
Magneto stands no chance against the current Nate Grey who is in full control of his powers and is confident. The strongest is White Phoenix of the Crown, she is the universe basically and source of all psionic energy. The 2nd is up for grabs but nobody stands a chance against her.
Nate has the ability to tap into the enormous psychic resources of the astral plane in order to manipulate matter and energy. This grants him incredible psychic powers including telepathy and telekinesis. He can use his telepathy to read minds and even read residual thought imprints left on objects touched by people ( psychometry), communicate with others by broadcasting his thoughts, control minds, create illusions by altering the perceptions of others, fire psionic blasts that can scramble an opponent's thought processes (causing the victim either intense pain, or rendering them unconscious), project his mind into the astral planeand even pull the astral projections of other telepaths into the physical world, and sense dimensional rifts or anomalies.
Nate's telekinesis is so powerful that he can move massive objects with his mind, fire blasts of psychokinetic energy that can shatter steel, create mental barriers that can stop most attacks, and levitate himself to fly at supersonic speeds. His control over his TK is so acute he can create holograms by mentally manipulating water molecules and dust to refract light, bend security lasers around himself to avoid detection, and even move the atoms of a wall around his own so that he passes through the wall like a ghost. He can even use his telekinesis to channel the Earth's magnetic field through the electro-currents of his brain to create devastating Electro Magnetic Pulses.
Straight from Comicvine. Mags stands no chance.
BUT none as powerful as X-Man and X-Man now has the skill to beat Magneto. He defeated the Phoenix after she was wore down and emotionally tired. One on one Jean - Phoenix would annihilate Mags. I dislike Jean - Phoenix but like Mags and I am not going to hype him above his potential. Yeah, Thor's thunder blasts. Mag's magnetism control would be useless due to X-Man's own control of the electromagnetic spectrum. X-Man would dominate Magneto in a one on one fight.
..... Rachel was inexperienced and Jean dominated him half the time when she was the Phoenix. Everytime he defeated her, it was due to either help, wearing down or emotional stress. X-Man can exert more power than Magneto due to the exhaustion Magneto's powers put on his body and mind. Magneto stands no chance against X-Man, one on one and both at there prime, X-Man would unleash extremely powerful TK attacks ripping Magneto apart.
NO, X-Man has the same strength level or greater than them two unless you are talking about WCOTP. I have not read anything on his Comicvine profile about him able to heal himself with the Earth's magnetic field. Anyway, ripping apart Mag's body parts constantly would drain Magneto's power even if he could heal till he ran out. X-Man would then kill him. I had to gain the White Phoenix of the Crown info from the issue, Phoenix Force bios. There is no mention of Magneto able to heal himself using Earth's magnetic field.
Definitely not greater. No. All three of their power levels are indeterminable and practically infinite .
Jean Grey is White Phoenix of the Crown.
X-Man needed that tattoo to prevent himself from burning out. Both Rachel and Jean did not need that tattoo.
Anyway, Rachel and Jean would have more skill and experience in wielding their power, than X-Man would.
They can both handle their incredible powers, unlike X-Man.
Magneto has used Earth's magnetic field to heal himself in the comics. Do you not trust the comics? Try and expand your sources, please. Also, are you forgetting that Magneto could also rip X-Man's body apart as well?
.... That is due to the phoenix force. I said, if Jean was not the White Phoenix of the Crown. X-Man does not have the Phoenix Force where there powers originate and his powers were so immense that it was killing him. X-Man has been recorded to have Dark Phoenix power level which is greater than the normal Phoenix form. X-Man could rip apart Magneto since his powers do not have a negative effect on his body or mind unlike Magneto's. Anyway, retcons. Makes old comics inaccurate.
I forgot Franklin Richards on my list
White Phoenix
Franklin Richards
Mad JIm Jaspers
Hyperstorm
Legion
Beyonder
Molecule Man
Onslaught
X-Man
Onslaught is not a mutant, rather a being made of pure psychic energy. Molecule Man is a mutate.
I am not. But not to the extent of damage can. No idea about Rachel but she has lost her phoenix force. I said if she was not White Phoenix. X-Man does have there skill now with his return. He knows how to perfectly use his powers to the full extent. Magneto can heal himself but the more he does it, the weaker his powers become. X-Man would unleash wave of wave of TK blasts and his TK can personify anyway he wants to. X-Man and Franklin Richards are two of the strongest mutants ever seen. Magneto could not take on Dark Phoenix and that is about X-Man's power level. Same for Cable at full power, Cable was able to protect and hold a city up while battling the Silver Surfer and they being equal. That is how strong X-Man is. Could Magneto go toe to toe with Silver Surfer? No, he could not and since X-Man is now skilled and knows how to use his powers, Magneto does not stand a chance. He is skilled and knows how to use his powers know which will be stated in Dark X-Men, Marvel has said so.
He would be if he had full power. He went toe to toe with the Surfer while protecting and holding up the city. Sorry, that says it. Silver Surfer is not as strong as the Dark Phoenix and X-Man's power is that high and since Cable is a different X-Man from a different timeline but without the TK/TP abilities, thus Cable is actually stronger than Silver Surfer.
X-Man does have there skill now with his return. He knows how to perfectly use his powers to the full extent.
Could you show some evidence for that, based on his appearances in Dark X-Men # 1 & 2?
@crimsonspider89 said:
" He would be if he had full power. He went toe to toe with the Surfer while protecting and holding up the city. Sorry, that says it. "
Sorry, that says nothing. The Surfer dominated Cable from the get go. He took him down in his first offensive move in the entire fight, and that was while vastly holding back. Unless you think that the collateral damage produced by the Surfer while he was repelling Cable during their fight actually means anything to one whose power is sufficient to easily destroy planets.
@crimsonspider89 said:
" Silver Surfer is not as strong as the Dark Phoenix and X-Man's power is that high "
It was said to be that high. Can you produce an instant, not speculation, where he matched that level?
@crimsonspider89 said:
" Cable is a different X-Man from a different timeline but without the TK/TP abilities, thus Cable is actually stronger than Silver Surfer. "
There is nothing Cable, or X-Man have done to place them above the Surfer. If you are so confident of your claims, please make the battle thread, and demonstrate how Cable, or X-Man would take the Surfer down. Cable even managing to compete with the Surfer in terms of reaction timing is bad writing in itself.
While Cable was holding and protecting a city. If not for the city, I am pretty sure that Cable would have dominated Silver Surfer. X-Man's power is greater than that of Vulcan and Vulcan went toe to toe with the Silver Surfer. Since Cable is X-Man but limited, Cable would have dominated him.
The fact that his life was lower than the rest is saying he possess that much power. We have seen those who possess power equal to the Phoenix(not Dark Phoenix/White Phoenix) and they had normal lifespans.
That is opinionated. Is Silver Surfer as strong as the Dark Phoenix? That is the extent of X-Man's and cured Cable's power at the most.
" I am not. But not to the extent of damage can. No idea about Rachel but she has lost her phoenix force. I said if she was not White Phoenix. X-Man does have there skill now with his return. He knows how to perfectly use his powers to the full extent. Magneto can heal himself but the more he does it, the weaker his powers become. X-Man would unleash wave of wave of TK blasts and his TK can personify anyway he wants to. X-Man and Franklin Richards are two of the strongest mutants ever seen. Magneto could not take on Dark Phoenix and that is about X-Man's power level. Same for Cable at full power, Cable was able to protect and hold a city up while battling the Silver Surfer and they being equal. That is how strong X-Man is. Could Magneto go toe to toe with Silver Surfer? No, he could not and since X-Man is now skilled and knows how to use his powers, Magneto does not stand a chance. He is skilled and knows how to use his powers know which will be stated in Dark X-Men, Marvel has said so. "Yes, but Magneto has already dealt with powerful telekinetics before. X-Man is rash and impetuous. This could lead to his downfall in future battles. The Silver Surfer was toying with Cable. What would X-Man do when Magneto rips him in half? Magneto has been shown to stop Earth from rotating. Magneto has been able to yank satellites from outer space. What can X-Man do to break or get through Magneto's shield? The electromagnetic force is one of the four fundamental forces of the Universe and Magneto has complete control over the electromagnetic force.
"He would be if he had full power. He went toe to toe with the Surfer while protecting and holding up the city. Sorry, that says it. Silver Surfer is not as strong as the Dark Phoenix and X-Man's power is that high and since Cable is a different X-Man from a different timeline but without the TK/TP abilities, thus Cable is actually stronger than Silver Surfer. "
Boo!
" @crimsonspider89 said:LOL."He would be if he had full power. He went toe to toe with the Surfer while protecting and holding up the city. Sorry, that says it. Silver Surfer is not as strong as the Dark Phoenix and X-Man's power is that high and since Cable is a different X-Man from a different timeline but without the TK/TP abilities, thus Cable is actually stronger than Silver Surfer. "Boo! "
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