Morrison's New X-Men and Whedon's Astonishing X-Men

#1 Posted by Ewan17 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Aside from the first few volumes of Ultimate X-Men, I've never read any X-men stories before. After doing some research, I found that Grant Morrison and Joss Whedon have both written X-Men stories and, as a fan of both of them, these seemed like good places to start. Are they both worth reading? Are they both going to be easy to understand, or should I read some other issues/series to figure out what's going on beforehand? And according to one thing I read, Whedon's Astonishing X-Men is essentially a sequel to Morrison's New X-Men - is that true? And if so, is it important to read Morrison's stuff before Whedon's, or could I read Astonishing X-Men first and come back to read Morrison's New X-Men later? I ask the last part only because my local library has all of Whedon's run, but none of Morrison's. Thanks for any help you can give me!

#2 Edited by Dman1366 (528 posts) - - Show Bio

I would suggest reading Morrison's before Whedon, I loved Morrison's run. A lot of people hated it. As for Whedon's, flawless. If you want some real good x reading, check out some 80 x books. New Mutants, Excalibur, and X-Factor were beyond amazing. Also, check out some Claremont Uncanny's. They are beyond amazing too. I would also suggest that you check out the House of M run, Messiah Complex, and Second Coming.

#3 Posted by Remi (613 posts) - - Show Bio

Most of the X-Men fans loved them. I'm not really a fan but I read them. They were decent.

#4 Posted by oraclefyre (936 posts) - - Show Bio

Loved them. They really helped bring the X-Men into the modern era.

#5 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison's New X-Men is my favourite X-Men run.

#6 Edited by AgeofHurricane (7202 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison's was the shizz nizz.

And to answer your question, I'd suggest picking up Morrison's before you go to Whedon's.

#7 Posted by Twentyfive (2405 posts) - - Show Bio

Whedon's X-Men is probably the best non-Claremont X-Men run you'll get.

#8 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3274 posts) - - Show Bio

I would read Morrison's story arcs before Whedon's, but really, it's just that a couple of big events happened during New X-Men that are referenced in Astonishing X-Men, but nothing so crazy that you couldn't catch up without a massive re-read.

#9 Posted by oraclefyre (936 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, it's not essential to read, but it's beneficial.

#10 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

You should read Morrison's run before Joss Whedon's run on "Astonishing X-Men," but I've actually read Joss Whedon's run on "Astonishing X-Men" first before Morrison's run on "New X-Men," so you could read Joss Whedon's run on Astonishing X-Men first and still be able to understand what is going on.

#11 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Whedon's run was meant to be the sequel to Morrison's run.

Those two runs are the best X-Men stories ever done, IMO.

#12 Posted by cattlebattle (12278 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrisons run was the best, it breathed much needed new life into the X-Men books, it comes before the events of Astonishing as already mentioned

#13 Posted by Dman1366 (528 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Whedon's run was meant to be the sequel to Morrison's run.

Those two runs are the best X-Men stories ever done, IMO.

no way, Cross Time Capers from Excalibur ( Davis/Claremont) rus was the best

#14 Edited by Osian2 (455 posts) - - Show Bio

Seeing as you're just getting into the X-men I would suggest going onto Marvel.com and subscribe to Marvel Digital Comics Unlimited (you can choose to do it for one month for about $6). This lets you read online almost all of the past x-men stories including New x-men, Astonishiong, Messiah Complex, Utopia, Second Coming and other marvel comics aswell. This will save you a lot of money.

Morrissons run is important and full of great stories but I couldn't stand the artwork. Whedons astonishing X-men picks up where Morrisson left off and IMO is the greatest run on the x-men and in comics in general. The artwork was great aswell so I wholeheartidly recommend that you pick it up.

#15 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5686 posts) - - Show Bio
@Osian2 said:

Seeing as you're just getting into the X-men I would suggest going onto Marvel.com and subscribe to Marvel Digital Comics Unlimited (you can choose to do it for one month for about $6). This lets you read online almost all of the past x-men stories including New x-men, Astonishiong, Messiah Complex, Utopia, Second Coming and other marvel comics aswell. This will save you a lot of money.

Morrissons run is important and full of great stories but I couldn't stand the artwork. Whedons astonishing X-men picks up where Morrisson left off and IMO is the greatest run on the x-men and in comics in general. The artwork was great aswell so I wholeheartidly recommend that you pick it up.

I definitely agree with this! Joss Whedon's run on "Astonishing X-Men" was just so fantastic!
#16 Posted by Ewan17 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the advice! I'm going to look for Morrison's run before I get to Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, but based on your comments I'm really excited for both of them!

@Dman1366: I'll make sure and look up all of your suggestions as well - I'd heard Claremont's Uncanny X-Men was really good and read a bit about the recent stuff like House of M but I hadn't heard anything about the others you suggested, New Mutants, Excalibur and X-Factor. Looking forward to reading all of those once I'm done!

@Osian2: I hadn't heard about that Marvel Digital Comics Unlimited, but I looked it up and I was blown away by the massive library they had, using that will be way cheaper than buying them all. Thank you SO much!

#17 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5686 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ewan17 said:

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the advice! I'm going to look for Morrison's run before I get to Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, but based on your comments I'm really excited for both of them!

@Dman1366: I'll make sure and look up all of your suggestions as well - I'd heard Claremont's Uncanny X-Men was really good and read a bit about the recent stuff like House of M but I hadn't heard anything about the others you suggested, New Mutants, Excalibur and X-Factor. Looking forward to reading all of those once I'm done!

@Osian2: I hadn't heard about that Marvel Digital Comics Unlimited, but I looked it up and I was blown away by the massive library they had, using that will be way cheaper than buying them all. Thank you SO much!

I would also check out The Dark Phoenix Saga by Chris Claremont since Joss Whedon's run on Astonishing X-Men has some flashbacks related to the Dark Phoenix Saga.
#18 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dman1366 said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Whedon's run was meant to be the sequel to Morrison's run.

Those two runs are the best X-Men stories ever done, IMO.

no way, Cross Time Capers from Excalibur ( Davis/Claremont) rus was the best

Were those from the days where comic book characters would say exactly what they're doing as they're doing them? Because I can't stand those stories...

#19 Posted by Osian2 (455 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ewan17 said:

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the advice! I'm going to look for Morrison's run before I get to Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, but based on your comments I'm really excited for both of them!

@Dman1366: I'll make sure and look up all of your suggestions as well - I'd heard Claremont's Uncanny X-Men was really good and read a bit about the recent stuff like House of M but I hadn't heard anything about the others you suggested, New Mutants, Excalibur and X-Factor. Looking forward to reading all of those once I'm done!

@Osian2: I hadn't heard about that Marvel Digital Comics Unlimited, but I looked it up and I was blown away by the massive library they had, using that will be way cheaper than buying them all. Thank you SO much!

You're welcome. They update their library every week also so there's always something new.

#20 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

morrisons run was sh!t incarnate with horrible art. whedon was awesome.

#21 Posted by stambo42 (154 posts) - - Show Bio

Whedon's story lines and antagonists didn't do as much for me, but he understood the characters well. I loved Morrison's run, my only gripe being with where he took Magneto... he erased the shades of gray that made him one of the strongest characters in all of comicdom. Other than that great run, the other run I would add to these is Claremont's run, from about 1986 to 1991. A lot of famous, seminal story lines in there.

#22 Posted by Dman1366 (528 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ewan17 said:

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the advice! I'm going to look for Morrison's run before I get to Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, but based on your comments I'm really excited for both of them!

@Dman1366: I'll make sure and look up all of your suggestions as well - I'd heard Claremont's Uncanny X-Men was really good and read a bit about the recent stuff like House of M but I hadn't heard anything about the others you suggested, New Mutants, Excalibur and X-Factor. Looking forward to reading all of those once I'm done!

@Osian2: I hadn't heard about that Marvel Digital Comics Unlimited, but I looked it up and I was blown away by the massive library they had, using that will be way cheaper than buying them all. Thank you SO much!

no problem man, i think you would LOVE Excalibur. (1st series)

#23 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (2467 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion: cool

i dont like morrisons new x-men he killed off jean grey the heart of the x-men with xavier being the soul and scott being the brain....i like wheldon because his run was more darker and edger

i dont like bendis either he made it seem babyish

by the way why did they hint scarlet witch would fight hope in avx 0 but it was nothing but two stories about hope and scarlett witch feeling left out and misunderstood?????

#24 Posted by MarvelGrey (243 posts) - - Show Bio

I really liked Morrison's run he really dived into the problems that mutants faced, and his character dynamic was amazing. Whedon's first 8 issues were his best after that I felt let down, at least he understood characters, and their relationships.

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