@Decoy Elite said:

@chocobojam said:

Seriously, who would prefer X-men over the Batman!?

Bat family only has Bats going for it. X-Men has a giant pile of interesting characters.

I'd say that, as characters and not based on their current respective series, the Bat-Family has a fair few interesting characters aside from Batman.

I grew up with the X-Men, but this is a bit tough. While the Bat Family aren't a traditional team, each of them independently and when teamed up, have a lot of steam in their personal and interpersonal dynamics that keep them much more interesting than the majority of X-Men. The X-Men haven't felt like a family in years. I don't even like Batman, but I do follow other BF members.

Easily the X-men seriously. Batman's Spawn are a bunch of clones. Red haired women and black haired men. At least we get some variety with the X-Men.

To me, Batman himself is a lesser Iron Man. They have the same background, no parents, inherited a massive company, super smart, wealthy, both are humans without superpowers. But with Bruce's "smarts" he pays some other halfwit to build him a shitty car and a rubber suit. While Tony on the other hand, build a suit that he commands telepathically and morphs through his skin. Thus being, Batman is lame as hell. He has no real tragedy, and lazy writers always have him win because of, get this, "prep time". Yeah, not buying it.

The X-men on the other hand have so much more to give to the readers. A slough of characters, that actually, get ready, die! There is tragedy, you actually learn to love characters and you mourn their deaths. The X-Men actually have writers that aren't ashamed of their characters loosing the battle to the bad guy. This being said, X-Men wins for me; On the fronts of, character developement (X-Men have developed hundreds of mutants, while there are, what? 7 bat family?), story writing ( DoFP, tFotM, SC, Whedon, Morrison, Claremont ), character familiarization (read New Mutants 45 1st series, will make you cry), villains ( could the bat family beat galactus, apocolypse, or Hel of asgard? ), and powers( can you name every mutant power? what about every bat family power).

@Dman1366 said:

To me, Batman himself is a lesser Iron Man. They have the same background, no parents, inherited a massive company, super smart, wealthy, both are humans without superpowers. But with Bruce's "smarts" he pays some other halfwit to build him a shitty car and a rubber suit.

Iron man is only superior to Batman when it comes down to engineering, Batman outclasses him in almost everything else.

While Tony on the other hand, build a suit that he commands telepathically and morphs through his skin. Thus being.

True

Batman is lame as hell.

Your opinion.

He has no real tragedy

Yes because I'm sure that you if your parents were killed in front of your eyes it wouldn't be a tragedy.

and lazy writers always have him win because of, get this, "prep time". Yeah, not buying it.

Batman is one of the top DC strategists, who's expertise is exploiting his opponent's weakness.

The X-men on the other hand have so much more to give to the readers. A slough of characters, that actually, get ready, die!

I'm not arguing with that, they have great variety.

There is tragedy, you actually learn to love characters and you mourn their deaths.

Because I'm sure everyone cried when Charles died in AvX, and when Jean died for the 12th time.

The X-Men actually have writers that aren't ashamed of their characters loosing the battle to the bad guy.

Have you ever read Court of Owls?

This being said, X-Men wins for me; On the fronts of, character developement (X-Men have developed hundreds of mutants, while there are, what? 7 bat family?)

Batman letting that many people in would be out of character, as I remember he is not very trusting.

, story writing ( DoFP, tFotM, SC, Whedon, Morrison, Claremont )

And somehow overall the Bat-family gets better reviews than any X-title

character familiarization (read New Mutants 45 1st series, will make you cry)

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, villains ( could the bat family beat galactus, apocolypse, or Hel of asgard? )

That doesn't make them better villains, a better villain is a character that you hate to love, like the Joker or Scarecrow, they are characters that will truly push their enemies to the limit.

, and powers( can you name every mutant power? what about every bat family power).

It just shows that the Bat-family doesn't need powers to win.

Avengers, you're next.

@DarkKnightDetective: Haha I actually laughed about the xavier and jean death. You have a point there. I will say, though, that you made my point with the villains; it takes actual powers to beat universal threats like Galactus and Apocolypse, while normal human can take on the scarecrow and the joker. But again, you have a point with this all being from an opinion. Honestly, nothing I say will change anyone's mind and nothing they say can change my mind.