@oldnightcrawler said:
Yeah, I think I see what you mean. I guess I always just chalk that stuff up to bureaucracy. If you consider that both Xavier and the Avengers have essentially worked for the government (which I think was largely to deal with the kinds of issues you're talking about, as well as getting around the idea of them being simply vigilantes), it seems more like they're considered to have their own agency in that world. The Avengers and the XSE have credentials that outrank most law agencies in regards to what situations are within their jurisdiction.
This makes the situations that the Avengers or X-men find themselves in technically their job (as entities) to deal with, unless it would put them in conflict with say SHIELD, SWORD, or WHOever, whom also work within their own jurisdictions.
I think you're right that it would be cool to see more exploration of the mechanics of these roles, and how they connect in terms of different agencies dealing with those relationships. Some stories do deal with it some, and most of the MU's back-story does involve various government agencies trying to control people with super-powers (Captain America, Hulk, Xavier, Wolverine, Alpha Flight, Blue Marvel, etc), so there's that, as a potential basis for how policy has been generally established. Certainly it could be interesting to see stuff, like how policies change over time, expounded upon.
That's what I'm saying, you can't have a force like the Avengers with all these geniuses and gods without knowing they won't overtake the governments' rule over the world. Just think like the government does for a second. I would like to see at least some infiltrated agents or another struggle over authority. But now it's kinda a yeas, CA reports straight to a president, so now it is less relevant, I guess it's because of Obama's popularity and trust over the USA which is kinda stupid, they were supposed to work for the world, not for the US (and I'm not even talking "out-of-politics" policy there was supposed to be, which angers me very much). The X-Men (and a whole mutandkind) are a whole new story actually, the mutant racism over MU is out of understanding even by the same very well accepted, non-mutant superpowered heroes (see Blue Marvel minis, a very nice minis, and I don't even like all the racism stuff, you'd ask, then what the hell are you doing in the X-Men forums, but I don't consider them outcasts or a minority, I consider them tomorrow's gods, oppressed by wretched humans' flaws). There's nothing surprising in the governments' treat and oppressing even the most accepted and loyal to law mutant facility. Actually, the whole new debate and other stuff running through my head right now, I could write a manifesto right now, but it would be really long and as I said, it would be too much :) You did answer some of my questions, which I wasn't actually expecting. Good work ;)
I agree that seeing more of that sort of thing would be cool, on the level of establishing the worlds that the characters live in, but I don't think it's really fair to say that a writer is lazy just because the story he or she is telling doesn't happen on that scale, or deal with those particular things. The characters themselves, their stories, are the main thing; that they all exist in the same world is awesome, but, to me, it's really secondary to that, and doesn't need to always be dealt with in every story. In my mind, other than the Avengers (of which it's the premise), most of the time it just shouldn't matter that they all live in the same world.
I'll tell what I mean, let's just make a comparison. In Kyle\Yost's X-Force there was a part, where an infiltrated Purifier made something kinda unthinkable with the SHIELD, and then Cyclops explained exactly how there was no reaction over their attacks on the X-Men because of some very authoritative Purifiers supporters in the government, and now after the unthinkable there will must be a reaction. Now you see, this is how you write good politics. The second is, what Bendis' Mystique does to them over and over again, without them even being on her tail, this is over the top already, they are portrayed as a joke. I can think about more examples if you wish :) Of course the story is in the first place, but they can't make us ignore a logic and, you now, credibility :)
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