Is this worst idea or what?

#1 Edited by time (4837 posts) - - Show Bio

After the Story Schism, The X-Men are going be divided in to 2 books and one of them is Wolverine and X-Men, that title is going have  Chris Bachalo as the artist. First we have Terry Dodson in Uncanny X-Men and now Bachalo. What's wrong with Marvel, do they like disappoint fans or something. I hate Chris Bachalo as artist, he makes characters and fights look terrible. Typical Marvel, they like to lets us down. How can anyone look forward to this  again? Can't they get a good artist, for once?

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#2 Posted by giantarms (181 posts) - - Show Bio

Terry Dodson I'm not a big fan of. 
 
But I LOVE-LOVE-LOVE Chris Bachalo. He's the real deal. Yes his stuff is a little stylized, but it's on the good side of the spectrum. Unlike Huberto Ramos, who is on the absolute horrible side of things.

#3 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3443 posts) - - Show Bio

This is pretty bad. I liked Chris Bachalo back in the early run of Generation X but he got very sloppy, and started to make everyone look like fat dwarves. I tend to like more realistic artwork, though, so it's one of my biases. I get that it's stylized, but it gets so cluttered and out of proportion that I have no idea what is happening in some panels.

#4 Posted by WeaponCatfish1 (42 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Im not to thrilled over their artistic decisions either. I mean especially when u have a stable of guys like Lenil Yu, Adam Kubert, Pacheo, Larroca, Alan Davis, Oliver Coipel. There is a lot of better choices.The Dodsons dont bug me but Bachalo-ugh!!! 
 
                             @PhoenixoftheTides-made everyone look like fat dwarves.   LOL that is friggin EPIC!!!!!

 

#5 Posted by comix christian (85 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Chris Bachalo, and i buying Wolverine and the X-men just because of him. Uncanny X-MEN with Carlos Pacheo....I'll pass, his art is starting to look like Alan Davis, and i think it looks boring...
#6 Posted by harleyquinn12 (1767 posts) - - Show Bio

It's a style difference. Pacheco and Bachalo are two VERY different artists, and I happen to like them both.
#7 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@time: What's wrong with Marvel, do they like disappoint fans or something. 
 
Yes... Yes they do... I'm sorry to say...  They find out what fans REALLY want, and then intentionally not give it to them...
#8 Posted by tbone1225 (234 posts) - - Show Bio

The only part that's a bad idea is that they're re-starting Uncanny X-Men. I know it was canceled after like sixty-something episodes on its first run, but what's the point of restarting it?

#9 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio
@time: You hate Chris Bachalo??... Now I officially hate you
#10 Posted by where4artthoucarlos (246 posts) - - Show Bio

He's Okay

#11 Posted by Daycrawler (552 posts) - - Show Bio

I really like bachalo's style and clever use of page layout, though I do agree that now and then this means following what's happening can be a challenge. However, his choice of colors can be odd. The Storm and Gambit one-shot he did for curse of the vampires had great art but absolutely horrible coloring! Really bland and murky.  Kind spoiled things a bit. However, the recent Avengers fear itself work, colors were great and it made the artwork shine. That's my only problem with bachalo.  
 
For the record, I really like the Dodsons work. Okay, so they're not  Larroca or Yu levels of awesome, but they rock in a kinda Saturday monring cartoon kinda way. Waaaaaaaay, way, way better than Land! 
 
And coipel is an amazing artist, but everyone he draws look like a twenty-something. Even Magneto! 

#12 Posted by jrock85 (2874 posts) - - Show Bio
@time
Yes. Marvel does like to give the middle finger to fans.
#13 Posted by MrSeaman70 (294 posts) - - Show Bio

I miss comic artists like Joe Benitez and Joe Madureira. They rock :)
#14 Posted by hysteria_1979 (12 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm the opposite. 
 
I've been SO bored with the X-Men's artists lately.  The books come alive when hyperstylized artists like Bachalo, Coipel, 80's Silvestri, and Quitely draw them. 

#15 Posted by Thunderscream (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

It took me a while to get used to Bachalo, but now I prefer him over some of the more realistic artists

#16 Posted by MrSeaman70 (294 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Bachalo only if the stories being told have a "cute & funny" atmosphere. He fits well into Generation-X or New Mutants comics. I wouldn't want to see him do Onslaught or Operation Zero Tolerance... and definetly not Wolverine series.
#17 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7257 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, i mean really ?

#18 Posted by Shadow_Thief (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

The whole "Wolverine and the X-Men" idea couldn't keep a cartoon on the air for more than one season, even at the height of Jackmanmania; I'm not sure what makes them think it's going to work any better this time around. Don't get me wrong; Wolverine's one of my all-time favorite characters, and he works in a variety of roles. Feral berserker? Check. Brooding loner? Heck yeah. Loose cannon spec op? Absolutely. Tactical commander? Sure. Ideological leader? Eh, not so much.

#19 Posted by jubilee042 (1353 posts) - - Show Bio

he is okay

#20 Posted by War Killer (19865 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I like Terry Dodson's art, but I understand why some may hate it. I'd really like to see some artist like Choi and Dodson work on some other Marvel titles like Avengers. Give the X-Men a chance to let some new artists work on the X-Titles while letting the artists from the X-Books work on other none X-related titles for a change.

#21 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (12402 posts) - - Show Bio

i like both of them. they just have to pick their titles carefully
#22 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

If Chris B.is gonna be drawing the characters like that, then I'll just read Cyclops and the x-men (Uncanny x-men, same old title, new different spin..) 
#23 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

Chris Bachalo >>> Terry Dodson.

#24 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8123 posts) - - Show Bio

What? o.O Bachalo's art is Amazing!!!

#25 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, and in answer to your thread title, "NO! It's not because I've read some of your wishes for the future of the X-Men! ZING!".

#26 Edited by time (4837 posts) - - Show Bio

what
@John Valentine said:



                    Oh, and in answer to your thread title, "NO! It's not because I've read some of your wishes for the future of the X-Men! ZING!".

                   

               

what my Jean Grey ideas, there better than yours. Killing of Kitty and Colssus, stupid idea. John you should really learn how talk to people when you comment on there threads. 
#27 Posted by time (4837 posts) - - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:


                    @time: You hate Chris Bachalo??... Now I officially hate you

                   

               

You don't like a person, cause they don't like a artists you like. It's pretty silly, but I don't really care.
#28 Posted by TearsInRain (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Chris seems just fine.  Better then some other artists out there still.

#29 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio
@time said:
@cattlebattle said:


                    @time: You hate Chris Bachalo??... Now I officially hate you

                   

               
You don't like a person, cause they don't like a artists you like. It's pretty silly, but I don't really care.

Way to take things seriously, I don't even know you...I was joking. 
 

#30 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
@time said:
what
@John Valentine said:



                    Oh, and in answer to your thread title, "NO! It's not because I've read some of your wishes for the future of the X-Men! ZING!".

                   

               

what my Jean Grey ideas, there better than yours. Killing of Kitty and Colssus, stupid idea. John you should really learn how talk to people when you comment on there threads. 
Your Jean ideas. Your Storm ideas.  I was probably joking about the Colossus and Kitty one.
#31 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel uses Bachalo because everyone loves him, it was a big deal back in the mid-90's when Marvel got him, obviously they'll keep using him...I always remember the Shade, the Changing Man letter columns where everyone was begging him to stick around

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#32 Posted by time (4837 posts) - - Show Bio
@John Valentine said:


                    @time said:


                    what
@John Valentine said:



                    Oh, and in answer to your thread title, "NO! It's not because I've read some of your wishes for the future of the X-Men! ZING!".

                   

               

what my Jean Grey ideas, there better than yours. Killing of Kitty and Colssus, stupid idea. John you should really learn how talk to people when you comment on there threads. 

                   

               
Your Jean ideas. Your Storm ideas.  I was probably joking about the Colossus and Kitty one.

                   
Come to think about it, a lot of people want Storm to be more involved in X-Men and some want Jean to return. The kitty and colossu being being dead is your idea
               
#33 Posted by TheLastLantern (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Chris Bachalo's Art. Awesome
Humberto Ramos's Art. Awful. Look at his left calf
#34 Posted by Larkin1388 (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Terry Dodson.

#35 Posted by Iron_Lad (315 posts) - - Show Bio

Bachalo's art is downright awesome. Some people say his art is too cartoonish. I disagree, I think he's refined his style over the years and has only gotten better.

#36 Posted by zombietag (1488 posts) - - Show Bio
@giantarms said:
I LOVE-LOVE-LOVE Chris Bachalo. He's the real deal. Yes his stuff is a little stylized, but it's on the good side of the spectrum. Unlike Huberto Ramos, who is on the absolute horrible side of things.
that right there. except ramos is getting better and better in ASM. i didnt like his stuff until he stared drawing that
#37 Posted by stambo42 (155 posts) - - Show Bio

Bachalo is fantastic, though I'll admit I miss the way he drew faces in his early days. His whole manner of composing is consistently on another plane, but he hung around with Joe Madureira (and worse yet, Ramos) and started drawing people with mask-like shields instead of faces. The final pages of Generation Next #4, as Paige realizes she is being abandoned is some of the best comic art I've ever seen. You get one last shot of her on the next page, though I unfortunately couldn't find an image of it.

#38 Posted by Franke_Lier (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I signed up just to agree. Chris Bachalo's work is good for what it is, but in comics it's just not up to doing the job at hand. Maybe in Power Pack it'd work... just.

When tasked with the high tension often Science-Fiction based drama that is the X-Men it's just horrible, and makes the stories a chore to read through instead of an engaging, enjoyable experience.

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