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The Uncanny X-Men are a superhero team of mutants that were founded by fellow mutant Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.

If Mutants Existed...

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#1 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

What would happen in the real world if mutants started popping up? Do you think the X-Men series accurately portrayed what would actually happen? How would you feel personally if these people with super-powers just started... appearing.

#2 Posted by The Enigma (1873 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by The Enigma (1873 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I would embrace it and hope that I was a mutant:

  • Telekinesis and Telepathy would work for me.

  • Genetic Manipulation.

  • Super Speed.

  • Flight is a deffinite yes.

  • Energy or Element Maniupulation would also be cool.

  • Freaky visual mutations are a no-no.

#4 Posted by theCeruleanGestalt (1148 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

OMG...they would in any case be feared and treated with prejudice. I'm pretty tired, I'm going to sleep about now, so I don't have energy to write any long argument now lol :P

/CG

#5 Posted by Hawk (15833 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

genecide.

#6 Posted by pixelized (62860 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I think it would be as it is in the X-men comics....There was a guy on the news whose skin turned blue and people freaked out, imagine if someone saw anole walking down the street....but also, what human would pick a fight with a mutant? if you can pick me up and throw me just by blinking i'm going to think loing and hard before i mess with you

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#7 Posted by theCeruleanGestalt (1148 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"I would embrace it and hope that I was a mutant:- Telekinesis and Telepathy would work for me.- Genetic Manipulation.- Super Speed.- Flight is a deffinite yes.- Energy or Element Maniupulation would also be cool.- Freaky visual mutations are a no-no."

Why not have memory manipulation so no one could remember you using your powers... (Like Lemnos from the Legion of Super-Heroes series, look him up)

/CG

#8 Posted by LexiCat (5284 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Humanity, on the whole, isn't exactly the most tolerant of those who are different. I believe there are pockets of tolerance, but they're not large enough to truly be felt all over the world. I would say the reaction to Mutants, especially those with obvious physical mutations, would be harsh. I believe there would be a great amount of fear as well as repulsion exhibited by the population at large. The comics have shown that Humanity does treat them with suh disdain.. and I do believe that is accurate based on how people behave. Think about racism. It exists in so many forms, how could it not continue if another group.. or race presented itself?

I don't believe that it's right to be intolerant of others' appearances, cultures, religion, race, gender, or sexual preference. I believe that everyone has a right to live happy and achieve as much success as their lives allow them to. No one should be pushed down or degraded.. If Mutants truly did exist I would hope there would be more in the world like Moria McTaggert and Charles Xavier. People compassionate, intelligent, and dedicated to making not just mutants' lives better, but everyone's lives.

#9 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

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#10 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I would want to be a mutant so bad than.

#11 Posted by theCeruleanGestalt (1148 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Speaking of mutants, I think DC's term for it, metahumans, is slightly better since most mutants/metahumans are born with their powers and not mutated afterwards...anyway, that was off-topic.

/CG

#12 Posted by pixelized (62860 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

imagine Mystiq in the real world....the paprazzi/media outlets would have a field day

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#13 Posted by Jax (7542 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I'd be happy. I would also hope I can get just 1 power. Memory manipulation. I'd rob banks and noone would remember. I'd be a neutral. I'd just make my own life better but not be evil.

Anyway if they did I would go to a school like Xaviers just to get to know them. I'd be happy if they did.

#14 Posted by The Enigma (1873 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

TheCleverGuy says:

"The Enigma says:
"I would embrace it and hope that I was a mutant: - Telekinesis and Telepathy would work for me. - Genetic Manipulation. - Super Speed. - Flight is a deffinite yes. - Energy or Element Maniupulation would also be cool. - Freaky visual mutations are a no-no."
Why not have memory manipulation so no one could remember you using your powers... (Like Lemnos from the Legion of Super-Heroes series, look him up) /CG"

I wish my life was like the kids in New Mutants or New X-Men: it woudl be tough but at least I woudl have amazing friends.

CG thats a cool power but telepathy would grant that.

#15 Posted by pixelized (62860 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"TheCleverGuy says:
"The Enigma says:
"I would embrace it and hope that I was a mutant: - Telekinesis and Telepathy would work for me. - Genetic Manipulation. - Super Speed. - Flight is a deffinite yes. - Energy or Element Maniupulation would also be cool. - Freaky visual mutations are a no-no."
Why not have memory manipulation so no one could remember you using your powers... (Like Lemnos from the Legion of Super-Heroes series, look him up) /CG"
I wish my life was like the kids in New Mutants or New X-Men: it woudl be tough but at least I woudl have amazing friends. CG thats a cool power but telepathy would grant that. "

until over half of them die....just saying

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#16 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The problem I see with arguing for mutant equality with bigots is that mutants are no longer part of the human race, they are technically a different species ("Homo Superior" if you will) so semantics-wise, they wouldn't fit in many definitions, like humanitarianism, and lawyers could actually have legal grounds to discriminate against mutants because they are not technically human beings. I'm not saying I agree with this, but it might very well be the case.

Also, do you think things would actually go down like they did in X-Men, would the government build mutant-hunting sentinels? Would there be a mutant terrorist group like the Brotherhood?

How would it affect your life personally? What if your neighbor turned out to be a mutant? What if your best friend was a mutant and had physical mutations?

#17 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I'd have to agree with Lexi on this.

However, History, and even movies have proven this

"Humans will attack what they do not understand"

Starman is a perfect example. An alien crashes on Earth, arriving Invited by the gold discs on Voyager, and the government attempts to kill him. I love that movie. I think if a mutant child popped up, it would either be sought after as a Weapon, or it would be targeted for termination.

This is not my belief, I'd like to think I could be accepting as I could of any other color, religion, or sex.. but then if I saw a guy walking down the street, with Blasts of energy coming from his eyes, I'm fairly sure I'd be scared and need a change of underwear.

#18 Posted by Crimson Orchid (5825 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Not to be a smart ass, but mutants do exist, just not the, for lack of a better word, glamorized way that comic books portray them.

#19 Posted by aztek_the_lost (30738 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

they would be rejected/exterminated, just like they are today...if someone's different humanity either kills them or makes them feel like they should be dead

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#20 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Well, I would want to have the powers of

Mercury

Nightcrawler

Mystique. Either one would be good

#21 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

You guys really think the government would build mutant-hunting robots?

I also disagree that the X-Men and other mutants would be the only ones fighting for their right to survive. That's one thing I had a problem with through-out X-Men, they were so quick to show how humans would just automatically turn into mutant-haters and how they are constantly oppressed my the human majority, but so slow to show many humans would actually fight alongside the mutants. African Americans weren't the only protesters during the Civil Rights era. I don't know, I just seems to me that the writers of X-Men didn't have much faith in humanity. I could be wrong, I don't read X-Men as much as other comics.

#22 Posted by LexiCat (5284 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Super-Buster says:

"You guys really think the government would build mutant-hunting robots? I also disagree that the X-Men and other mutants would be the only ones fighting for their right to survive. That's one thing I had a problem with through-out X-Men, they were so quick to show how humans would just automatically turn into mutant-haters and how they are constantly oppressed my the human majority, but so slow to show many humans would actually fight alongside the mutants. African Americans weren't the only protesters during the Civil Rights era. I don't know, I just seems to me that the writers of X-Men didn't have much faith in humanity. I could be wrong, I don't read X-Men as much as other comics."

S-B, as I said there are pockets of tolerance all over the globe. That includes people from all walks of life. I'm just saying the majority of people would react poorly. And do I believe the government would want to build something to keep them in check? Isn't that what they did to African-Americans with the Jim Crow Laws? Restraint is restraint, whether it be via a giant skyscraper sized robot or antequated laws.

As Ex stated, people fear what they don't understand. The government looks for every advantage they can possibly get. If a Mutant or a race of Mutants sprung up and the "general population" was afraid of them? Don't you think they'd be all over that in a heartbeat trying to find a way to manipulate that fear to their gain? Of course they would!!

#23 Posted by Dementia5 (686 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I think the most likely scenario would be that the military quickly takes a HUGE interest in these unusual people, and starts looking for ways to use them as weapons. They'd likely be rounded up as soon as they popped up on the grid, and sequestered in an Area 51-like secret location. And when average folks started talking about that boy who turned to ice, or that girl who made the fireworks with her hands, someone akin to the MIBs would show up to discourage that kinda talk.

I'd be an MIB. Wonder what the pay is like?

#24 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

LexiCat says:

"Super-Buster says:
"You guys really think the government would build mutant-hunting robots? I also disagree that the X-Men and other mutants would be the only ones fighting for their right to survive. That's one thing I had a problem with through-out X-Men, they were so quick to show how humans would just automatically turn into mutant-haters and how they are constantly oppressed my the human majority, but so slow to show many humans would actually fight alongside the mutants. African Americans weren't the only protesters during the Civil Rights era. I don't know, I just seems to me that the writers of X-Men didn't have much faith in humanity. I could be wrong, I don't read X-Men as much as other comics."

S-B, as I said there are pockets of tolerance all over the globe. That includes people from all walks of life. I'm just saying the majority of people would react poorly. And do I believe the government would want to build something to keep them in check? Isn't that what they did to African-Americans with the Jim Crow Laws? Restraint is restraint, whether it be via a giant skyscraper sized robot or antequated laws.

As Ex stated, people fear what they don't understand. The government looks for every advantage they can possibly get. If a Mutant or a race of Mutants sprung up and the "general population" was afraid of them? Don't you think they'd be all over that in a heartbeat trying to find a way to manipulate that fear to their gain? Of course they would!!

"

My post was not directly aimed at you but you brought up some interesting points that I would like to talk about.

I agree that mutants would experience intolerance, its a fact of life that human being naturally tend to reject people who are different from them and fear those that they don't understand. X-Men is at least partially accurate as far as that is concerned, however, The point I'm trying to make is that there would be people, normal every-day people who would rise above all the hatred and conceit and actually try to help the X-Men and all mutants. So far that I've seen there have been plenty of mutant-haters that try to kill and/or harm the mutants (our own Government was involved in it a few times), but I can scarcely name one human who fought for equality for mutants. And that is what I think is inaccurate. I wasn't addressing your post so much as I was addressing the X-Men series.

On another note, I think I agree with you on gov'ts taking measures to keep mutants in check. It may sound a bit racist, but Jews and African Americans don't have eye-beams shooting everywhere, mutants are dangerous, especially the omega-level ones, and while I don't think that the Gov't would be actively hunting down mutants with big robots, I think they would try to somehow control the mutant population. Maybe the cooler, more manipulative heads in Washington would be trying to manipulate the fear to gain power, but I think, in general, the gov'ts would be just as scared as the general populace.

#25 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Dementia5 says:

"I think the most likely scenario would be that the military quickly takes a HUGE interest in these unusual people, and starts looking for ways to use them as weapons. They'd likely be rounded up as soon as they popped up on the grid, and sequestered in an Area 51-like secret location. And when average folks started talking about that boy who turned to ice, or that girl who made the fireworks with her hands, someone akin to the MIBs would show up to *discourage* that kinda talk.I'd be an MIB. Wonder what the pay is like?"

You make it sound like the Gov't is fascist, always seeking to get more power.

#26 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Crimson Orchid says:

"Not to be a smart ass, but mutants do exist, just not the, for lack of a better word, glamorized way that comic books portray them."

Point noted , Like that child born linked to his brother, what happened to them, oh yes Tabloid Fodder

#27 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

if i was a mutant i want to have bishop's kinetic absorption powers or rogues power absoptioan just to have a little bet of every power

#28 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Super-Buster says:

"You guys really think the government would build mutant-hunting robots?I also disagree that the X-Men and other mutants would be the only ones fighting for their right to survive. That's one thing I had a problem with through-out X-Men, they were so quick to show how humans would just automatically turn into mutant-haters and how they are constantly oppressed my the human majority, but so slow to show many humans would actually fight alongside the mutants. African Americans weren't the only protesters during the Civil Rights era. I don't know, I just seems to me that the writers of X-Men didn't have much faith in humanity. I could be wrong, I don't read X-Men as much as other comics."

LexiCat says:

"Super-Buster says:
"You guys really think the government would build mutant-hunting robots? I also disagree that the X-Men and other mutants would be the only ones fighting for their right to survive. That's one thing I had a problem with through-out X-Men, they were so quick to show how humans would just automatically turn into mutant-haters and how they are constantly oppressed my the human majority, but so slow to show many humans would actually fight alongside the mutants. African Americans weren't the only protesters during the Civil Rights era. I don't know, I just seems to me that the writers of X-Men didn't have much faith in humanity. I could be wrong, I don't read X-Men as much as other comics."

S-B, as I said there are pockets of tolerance all over the globe. That includes people from all walks of life. I'm just saying the majority of people would react poorly. And do I believe the government would want to build something to keep them in check? Isn't that what they did to African-Americans with the Jim Crow Laws? Restraint is restraint, whether it be via a giant skyscraper sized robot or antequated laws.

As Ex stated, people fear what they don't understand. The government looks for every advantage they can possibly get. If a Mutant or a race of Mutants sprung up and the "general population" was afraid of them? Don't you think they'd be all over that in a heartbeat trying to find a way to manipulate that fear to their gain? Of course they would!!

"

S-B: to go even one more to support what Lexi just said

Japanese American internment refers to the forcible relocation and internment of approximately 110,000 Japanese nationals and Japanese Americans to housing facilities called "War Relocation Camps", in the wake of Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.

When Japan attacked Pearl harbor, American instantly went into the "lets lock them up before they hurt us".. All it would take is one "Super Powered Mutant" (Since CO Correctly stated that Mutants do Exist) Loosing control of his or her powers just once, and at least the American government would lock every one of them they could find down tighter than a tick hugs a dog.

It should also be noted it took our government 47 years to even apologize for this act.

Mutant Hunting robots? Perhaps not? Mutant hunting Branches of the military. Oh in a heart beat , you wouldn't be able to blink before it was formed.

#29 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Super-Buster says:

I agree that mutants would experience intolerance, its a fact of life that human being naturally tend to reject people who are different from them and fear those that they don't understand. X-Men is at least partially accurate as far as that is concerned, however, The point I'm trying to make is that there would be people, normal every-day people who would rise above all the hatred and conceit and actually try to help the X-Men and all mutants. So far that I've seen there have been plenty of mutant-haters that try to kill and/or harm the mutants (our own Government was involved in it a few times), but I can scarcely name one human who fought for equality for mutants. And that is what I think is inaccurate. I wasn't addressing your post so much as I was addressing the X-Men series.On another note, I think I agree with you on gov'ts taking measures to keep mutants in check. It may sound a bit racist, but Jews and African Americans don't have eye-beams shooting everywhere, mutants are dangerous, especially the omega-level ones, and while I don't think that the Gov't would be actively hunting down mutants with big robots, I think they would try to somehow control the mutant population. Maybe the cooler, more manipulative heads in Washington would be trying to manipulate the fear to gain power, but I think, in general, the gov'ts would be just as scared as the general populace. "

I'd like th think you were right. but in a country where Racism still runs rampant. Where there are still members of the KKK, and the Red Panthers If the military didn't do something there would be a "Friends for Humanity" in another of those heartbeats.

And here is some food for thought... If you do not think the government is keeping track of every racial ethnic group in this country, ask your self why the Entry for RACE is on your State Issued ID, or Drivers license

#30 Posted by The Enigma (1873 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Exusiai says:

"Crimson Orchid says:
"Not to be a smart ass, but mutants do exist, just not the, for lack of a better word, glamorized way that comic books portray them."
Point noted , Like that child born linked to his brother, what happened to them, oh yes Tabloid Fodder "

Well that was an amazingly obvious statement.

The guy suffered from 'conjoined foetus syndrone': he is not a mutant, just a sufferer of a birth defect (he was born with a dead foetus attached to him).

A mutant would be someone that possesses a mutated gene. Mutation is defined as the change in DNA sequence. Everyone who possesses a mutated gene is technically a mutant, yet obviously not to the extent as shwon in comics such as the X-Men.

#31 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"Exusiai says:
"Crimson Orchid says:
"Not to be a smart ass, but mutants do exist, just not the, for lack of a better word, glamorized way that comic books portray them."
Point noted , Like that child born linked to his brother, what happened to them, oh yes Tabloid Fodder "

Well that was an amazingly obvious statement.

The guy suffered from 'conjoined foetus syndrone': he is not a mutant, just a sufferer of a birth defect (he was born with a dead foetus attached to him).

A mutant would be someone that possesses a mutated gene. Mutation is defined as the change in DNA sequence. Everyone who possesses a mutated gene is technically a mutant, yet obviously not to the extent as shwon in comics such as the X-Men. "

Actually

MUTANT: undergoing or resulting from mutation.

MUTATION: iology.

a. a sudden departure from the parent type in one or more heritable characteristics, caused by a change in a gene or a chromosome.

b. an individual, species, or the like, resulting from such a departure.

So, twins born conjoined, is a difference from their parent type, unless their parents were born joined. and this is just by a "dictionary" definition .. A child born with Green Eyes, with no trace of Green eyes in either the Father or Mother's blood line (and no cheating involved) would be a mutant...

#32 Posted by The Enigma (1873 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Exusiai says:

"The Enigma says:
"Exusiai says:
"Crimson Orchid says:
"Not to be a smart ass, but mutants do exist, just not the, for lack of a better word, glamorized way that comic books portray them."
Point noted , Like that child born linked to his brother, what happened to them, oh yes Tabloid Fodder "
Well that was an amazingly obvious statement. The guy suffered from 'conjoined foetus syndrone': he is not a mutant, just a sufferer of a birth defect (he was born with a dead foetus attached to him). A mutant would be someone that possesses a mutated gene. Mutation is defined as the change in DNA sequence. Everyone who possesses a mutated gene is technically a mutant, yet obviously not to the extent as shwon in comics such as the X-Men. "
Actually MUTANT: undergoing or resulting from mutation. MUTATION: iology. a. a sudden departure from the parent type in one or more heritable characteristics, caused by a change in a gene or a chromosome. b. an individual, species, or the like, resulting from such a departure. So, twins born conjoined, is a difference from their parent type, unless their parents were born joined. and this is just by a "dictionary" definition .. A child born with Green Eyes, with no trace of Green eyes in either the Father or Mother's blood line (and no cheating involved) would be a mutant... "

NO!!!!!!

Brown is a dominant allele, so both parents could have brown eyes whilst at the same time have an allele for green eyes. The baby could inheret two green eye clour alleles.

My definition of mutation is essentially what I just said.

#33 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

-nods lots- yeah I know .. sorry was going by "book" definition

#34 Posted by The Enigma (1873 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Exusiai says:

"The Enigma says:
"Exusiai says:
"Crimson Orchid says:
"Not to be a smart ass, but mutants do exist, just not the, for lack of a better word, glamorized way that comic books portray them."
Point noted , Like that child born linked to his brother, what happened to them, oh yes Tabloid Fodder "
Well that was an amazingly obvious statement. The guy suffered from 'conjoined foetus syndrone': he is not a mutant, just a sufferer of a birth defect (he was born with a dead foetus attached to him). A mutant would be someone that possesses a mutated gene. Mutation is defined as the change in DNA sequence. Everyone who possesses a mutated gene is technically a mutant, yet obviously not to the extent as shwon in comics such as the X-Men. "
Actually MUTANT: undergoing or resulting from mutation. MUTATION: iology. a. a sudden departure from the parent type in one or more heritable characteristics, caused by a change in a gene or a chromosome. b. an individual, species, or the like, resulting from such a departure. So, twins born conjoined, is a difference from their parent type, unless their parents were born joined. and this is just by a "dictionary" definition .. A child born with Green Eyes, with no trace of Green eyes in either the Father or Mother's blood line (and no cheating involved) would be a mutant... "

Mutations occur all the time randomly, for example skin cancer after prolonged exposure to UV light. The skin cell mutates whilst dividing, as its DNA sequence is not copied correctly (due to UV light exposure). That type of mutation is not inherited.

I will not digress, but further examples of mutation are evident in natural selection: evolution itself if caused by random mutation. This mutation could possibly give the organism an advantage thus letting it survive and pass on its genetic information, meaning that more organisms in future generations will gain this characteristic.

#35 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

True, point would still be if Super Powered Mutants Started showing up.... I think Heroe has it right there would be an organization out there like the Company to "control " it

#36 Posted by The Enigma (1873 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Exusiai says:

"True, point would still be if Super Powered Mutants Started showing up.... I think Heroe has it right there would be an organization out there like the Company to "control " it "

Control or supress, my friend?

#37 Posted by Dementia5 (686 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Super-Buster says:

"Dementia5 says:
"I think the most likely scenario would be that the military quickly takes a HUGE interest in these unusual people, and starts looking for ways to use them as weapons. They'd likely be rounded up as soon as they popped up on the grid, and sequestered in an Area 51-like secret location. And when average folks started talking about that boy who turned to ice, or that girl who made the fireworks with her hands, someone akin to the MIBs would show up to *discourage* that kinda talk. I'd be an MIB. Wonder what the pay is like?"
You make it sound like the Gov't is fascist, always seeking to get more power."

Now who would ever think that? ;-)

The fact is that governments, even those who are of/by/for the people, are still people, and people are always looking for an edge. Super-powered beings would give them that edge, and I truly believe that they'd be every bit as ruthless as it took to acheive that.

#38 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Control, suppress,

I'd go more for control, the government tends to have the "if we can't Control it we kill it" mentality

(Again See Hiroshima)

#39 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Dementia5 says:

"Super-Buster says:
"Dementia5 says:
"I think the most likely scenario would be that the military quickly takes a HUGE interest in these unusual people, and starts looking for ways to use them as weapons. They'd likely be rounded up as soon as they popped up on the grid, and sequestered in an Area 51-like secret location. And when average folks started talking about that boy who turned to ice, or that girl who made the fireworks with her hands, someone akin to the MIBs would show up to *discourage* that kinda talk. I'd be an MIB. Wonder what the pay is like?"
You make it sound like the Gov't is fascist, always seeking to get more power."

Now who would ever think that? ;-)

The fact is that governments, even those who are of/by/for the people, are still people, and people are always looking for an edge. Super-powered beings would give them that edge, and I truly believe that they'd be every bit as ruthless as it took to acheive that.

"

The American government hasn't been Of the People, for the People By the People in quite some time. Unless those people are self interested industry men and women

#40 Posted by Gambler (80698 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

LexiCat says:

"Humanity, on the whole, isn't exactly the most tolerant of those who are different. I believe there are pockets of tolerance, but they're not large enough to truly be felt all over the world. I would say the reaction to Mutants, especially those with obvious physical mutations, would be harsh. I believe there would be a great amount of fear as well as repulsion exhibited by the population at large. The comics have shown that Humanity does treat them with suh disdain.. and I do believe that is accurate based on how people behave. Think about racism. It exists in so many forms, how could it not continue if another group.. or race presented itself?
I don't believe that it's right to be intolerant of others' appearances, cultures, religion, race, gender, or sexual preference. I believe that everyone has a right to live happy and achieve as much success as their lives allow them to. No one should be pushed down or degraded.. If Mutants truly did exist I would hope there would be more in the world like Moria McTaggert and Charles Xavier. People compassionate, intelligent, and dedicated to making not just mutants' lives better, but everyone's lives."
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#41 Posted by Dementia5 (686 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Exusiai says:

"Dementia5 says:
"Super-Buster says:
"Dementia5 says:
"I think the most likely scenario would be that the military quickly takes a HUGE interest in these unusual people, and starts looking for ways to use them as weapons. They'd likely be rounded up as soon as they popped up on the grid, and sequestered in an Area 51-like secret location. And when average folks started talking about that boy who turned to ice, or that girl who made the fireworks with her hands, someone akin to the MIBs would show up to *discourage* that kinda talk. I'd be an MIB. Wonder what the pay is like?"
You make it sound like the Gov't is fascist, always seeking to get more power."
Now who would ever think *that*? ;-) The fact is that governments, even those who are of/by/for the people, are still *people*, and people are always looking for an edge. Super-powered beings would give them that edge, and I truly believe that they'd be every bit as ruthless as it took to acheive that. "
The American government hasn't been Of the People, for the People By the People in quite some time. Unless those people are self interested industry men and women "

All the more reason they'd do it...self-interest.

#42 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Exusiai says:

"S-B: to go even one more to support what Lexi just saidJapanese American internment refers to the forcible relocation and internment of approximately 110,000 Japanese nationals and Japanese Americans to housing facilities called "War Relocation Camps", in the wake of Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.When Japan attacked Pearl harbor, American instantly went into the "lets lock them up before they hurt us".. All it would take is one "Super Powered Mutant" (Since CO Correctly stated that Mutants do Exist) Loosing control of his or her powers just once, and at least the American government would lock every one of them they could find down tighter than a tick hugs a dog.It should also be noted it took our government 47 years to even apologize for this act.Mutant Hunting robots? Perhaps not? Mutant hunting Branches of the military. Oh in a heart beat , you wouldn't be able to blink before it was formed."

It took an act of war, a deliberate attack by an entire fleet of the Japanese military on Pearl Harbor to get the U.S. to intern the Japanese and that was before we even had the Civil Rights era. There will be repercussions by the gov't for any accidental mutant explosions for sure, but I don't they'll be as severe as what you're describing. A mutant-hunting branch of the military? I can imagine task forces to take down specific mutant threats, but unless a group of mutants forms their own country or something and attackthe human population, I don't think the gov't is just going to start hunting down mutants indiscriminately.

Exusiai says:

"I'd like th think you were right. but in a country where Racism still runs rampant. Where there are still members of the KKK, and the Red Panthers If the military didn't do something there would be a "Friends for Humanity" in another of those heartbeats.And here is some food for thought... If you do not think the government is keeping track of every racial ethnic group in this country, ask your self why the Entry for RACE is on your State Issued ID, or Drivers license"

Racism is far from extinct in our country unfortunately, but I hardly think that it is running rampant. People lose their jobs over calling people nappy-headed hoes nowadays and the KKK is actively hunted by the government. Oh, there would be mutant hate groups like the "Friends for Humanity" for sure, but there would also be just as many groups for mutant equality and survival. That's the main gist if my argument anyways, I agree with almost everything else that X-Men portrayed except for the lack of human supporters for mutant equality.

Race is part of your physical description. its on your I.D. for the same reason your eye and hair color are.

Dementia5 says:

""Now who would ever think that? ;-)The fact is that governments, even those who are of/by/for the people, are still people, and people are always looking for an edge. Super-powered beings would give them that edge, and I truly believe that they'd be every bit as ruthless as it took to acheive tha"

If you believe people are always looking for a way to hold power over others then you don't have a lot of faith in humanity. The gov't is made of people, true, but that doesn't mean that they'll automatically be searching for a way to use these mutants. In fact, I can see a lot of senators and government officials lobbying for mutant rights. Just like all of humanity, its impossible to pigeonhole the whole government. Will there be power-hungry officials always looking for a way to grab more power? I can bet your @ss there will, but there will also be the officials who want to make the U.S. a better nation. The Government is not evil, its just flawed.

#43 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

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#44 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Super-Buster says:

Racism is far from extinct in our country unfortunately, but I hardly think that it is running rampant. People lose their jobs over calling people nappy-headed hoes nowadays and the KKK is actively hunted by the *government*. Oh, there would be mutant hate groups like the "Friends for Humanity" for sure, but there would also be just as many groups for mutant equality and survival. That's the main gist if my argument anyways, I agree with almost everything else that X-Men portrayed except for the lack of human supporters for mutant equality.Race is part of your physical description. its on your I.D. for the same reason your eye and hair color are.

and I think your right, Lets look, to counter the KKK you have.... the NAACP (which is conpiled of African Americans), so in just that Example, if there was a Friends of Humanity, thr Only people who would form a Mutant support Group would be...Mutants.... There is not a National Association of White People for Colored People. (and while I'm on that the NAACP is a Racist entity because it is a African American Only club.)

And as for the NHH comment. Yeah lets look at that, a White man was fired for Saying "nappy headed Ho", but yet a black man can have a top 10 Rap song that has words like those and worse than those degrading black women as part of their lyrics

So no there was no racism there, it was just a White man, being Attacked for Saying something any other black man had said it no one would have said a word. when that happened one of the men on CNN Was quoted as saying "When a white kills a black, it's riot time. When a black kills a white, it's execution time. When a black kills a black, it's Miller time."So no that was Racism, it was Aimed at a white man, he was discriminated against because he said, what Several Black Hip Hop Artists had said (AND GOTTEN PAID FOR) , but because his Skin was not black, the Afro American World Erupted in chaos. Thats RacismAnd no, Race is on your ID, so that the Government can keep Track of us, it's a part of how they do the census now, I mean all your information on most Id's can be scanned by Registers at a Grocery store. Especially on a License. you get a ticket that information is Added to your Record, and that record can be looked at, where do you think they get the Statistics of how many white people have Wrecks, and how many Drunk drivers are what Ethnic Background?

If you believe people are always looking for a way to hold power over others then you don't have a lot of faith in humanity. The gov't is made of people, true, but that doesn't mean that they'll automatically be searching for a way to use these mutants. In fact, I can see a lot of senators and government officials lobbying *for* mutant rights. Just like all of humanity, its impossible to pigeonhole the whole government. Will there be power-hungry officials always looking for a way to grab more power? I can bet your @ss there will, but there will also be the officials who want to make the U.S. a better nation. The Government is not evil, its just flawed."
It's hard to have faith in a race of beings which are the only race on Earth that kill each other simply for the pleasure of it.Half the Senators now won't even vote for universal health care, why would they care about Mutant rights? It is possible to pigeon hole the government when as you yourself stated the government is Broken, and I'm sorry I'm out of Duct Tape.I'm sorry I just don't see the American Government having people with powers like Say Cyclops, run around without putting a leash on them of some sort.
#45 Posted by Celestrion (1637 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Some mutants actually exisit in this world so I'm already speechless.

#46 Posted by power surge (1242 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Celestrion says:

"Some mutants actually exisit in this world so I'm already speechless."

your right about that.I should know I am one of them. one of my mutations is that I can make my hands go cold at will.

#47 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Celestrion says:

"Some mutants actually exisit in this world so I'm already speechless."

I think this discussion is About "Super Powered MutantS"

#48 Posted by Exusiai (450 posts) - 5 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"TheCleverGuy says:
"The Enigma says:
"I would embrace it and hope that I was a mutant: - Telekinesis and Telepathy would work for me. - Genetic Manipulation. - Super Speed. - Flight is a deffinite yes. - Energy or Element Maniupulation would also be cool. - Freaky visual mutations are a no-no."
Why not have memory manipulation so no one could remember you using your powers... (Like Lemnos from the Legion of Super-Heroes series, look him up) /CG"

I wish my life was like the kids in New Mutants or New X-Men: it woudl be tough but at least I woudl have amazing friends.

CG thats a cool power but telepathy would grant that. "

Not so sure man, after reading Anole's store in Divided we Stand? I may rethink that

"Half my school has been killed, the other half has spent time in Hell..literally hell. The remaining students were hunted by some chromed out rhino and a Da Vinci code army."


"I was cocky going back to school, I'd studied with the big bad X-Men, how could these small town kids even hope to keep up with me. I was humbled rather quickly. I had no idea how behind I was. My school spent half of each year getting rebuilt from some explosion or another.

I think Victor has the best insight on the School "And thats what you (The X-Men) don't get, we were...are. kids, We're supposed to be learning, playing video games, going on dates, not fighting the #$%^&*$ devil"

To quote the man......'Nuff Said

#49 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - 5 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Exusiai says:

"and I think your right, Lets look, to counter the KKK you have.... the NAACP (which is conpiled of African Americans), so in just that Example, if there was a Friends of Humanity, thr Only people who would form a Mutant support Group would be...Mutants.... There is not a National Association of White People for Colored People. (and while I'm on that the NAACP is a Racist entity because it is a African American Only club.)"

Where are you getting your information from? More than half of the founders of NAACP were white.

Exusiai says:

"And as for the NHH comment. Yeah lets look at that, a White man was fired for Saying "nappy headed Ho", but yet a black man can have a top 10 Rap song that has words like those and worse than those degrading black women as part of their lyrics

So no there was no racism there, it was just a White man, being Attacked for Saying something any other black man had said it no one would have said a word. when that happened one of the men on CNN Was quoted as saying"When a white kills a black, it's riot time. When a black kills a white, it's execution time. When a black kills a black, it's Miller time."So no that was Racism, it was Aimed at a white man, he was discriminated against because he said, what Several Black Hip Hop Artists had said (AND GOTTEN PAID FOR) , but because his Skin was not black, the Afro American World Erupted in chaos. Thats Racism"

I'm struggling to see your point. You may disagree about whether or not Don should have gotten fired because of saying something that rappers usually say, but the fact is that it was Al Sharpton and other African American leaders who called for his firing because they thought that his comment was racist. It doesn't matter if it actually was racist, the point is that you can lose your job now-a-days over comments that are even construed to be racist. We've gone from segregation to this since the Japanese internment, so I still don't believe that the Gov't will take such harsh actions against mutants.

Exusiai says:

""And no, Race is on your ID, so that the Government can keep Track of us, it's a part of how they do the census now, I mean all your information on most Id's can be scanned by Registers at a Grocery store. Especially on a License. you get a ticket that information is Added to your Record, and that record can be looked at, where do you think they get the Statistics of how many white people have Wrecks, and how many Drunk drivers are what Ethnic Background?"

This is just a conspiracy theory, I'm not going to discuss it.

Exusiai says:

"It's hard to have faith in a race of beings which are the only race on Earth that kill each other simply for the pleasure of it.Half the Senators now won't even vote for universal health care, why would they care about Mutant rights? It is possible to pigeon hole the government when as you yourself stated the government is Broken, and I'm sorry I'm out of Duct Tape.I'm sorry I just don't see the American Government having people with powers like Say Cyclops, run around without putting a leash on them of some sort."

Humanity may be the only species to kill for something else than survival, but we are also the only species to protect other species and risk our lives to saves others that we don't even know. Humanity is capable of both extremes.

Not all of the senators will vote for universal healthcare, well what about the the rest of them? Besides, its not like the ones against healthcare are conspiring to somehow get rich off of other people not receiving healthcare, they actually have reasons they oppose it (mainly because we can't afford it).

I never said that the Gov't would just let these mutants roam around unchecked, but what you're describing is a mutant-hunting part of the military that just goes around and "deals" with mutants indiscriminately.

#50 Posted by Mr. Fahrenheit (43 posts) - 5 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Super-Buster says:

Humanity may be the only species to kill for something else than survival, but we are also the only species to protect other species and risk our lives to saves others that we don't even know. Humanity is capable of *both* extremes. Not all of the senators will vote for universal healthcare, well what about the the rest of them? Besides, its not like the ones against healthcare are conspiring to somehow get rich off of other people not receiving healthcare, they actually have reasons they oppose it (mainly because we can't afford it). I never said that the Gov't would just let these mutants roam around unchecked, but what you're describing is a mutant-hunting part of the military that just goes around and "deals" with mutants indiscriminately. "

I think you put to much faith in others who have no vested intrest in you. The United States has regularly shown that rule of law and human desency are not only inconvient bt not our problem. The ammount of atrosities that our government has committed and human beings ingeneral have committed it proof that we shouldn't be allowed to police ourselves letalone those superiour to us. Plus, my the pure virtue of our genes we are give a twisted notion of "Morality" and odds are any evolution of humans would also have an evolved ethical sense.

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