I enjoyed most of Fraction's run..

I actually like Liefeld's early X-Force stuff......

You're all nasty now...

@invain: lol come on Invain....say something dirty to us that you dont want your friends finding out about.

Are... are you trying to seduce me?

I don't really have shame... but I'll play along.

Let's see:

• I prefer the over-the-top sex appeal of the late 80s - early 2000s over a lot of the bland(imo) art of today.
• I like romance.(when written well)
• I don't really understand the hate for Fantomex. I never really liked him, so I did jump on the bandwagon to talk shit about him.
• Jim Lee wasn't that bad when he was on plot.(At least not on X-Men vol 2. Uncanny was shit, but there was some other artist doing the plots for that one)
• Greg Land is over hated. Tracing, or swiping, is very common in the industry and so is light boxing. A lot of his haters talk like he is the only one that does it.

screw you @invain

Gambit is my favorite X-men......

@sprior93: Ew, why did you say that?

I love it when Greg Land draws X-men. Particularly Storm

@poisonfleur: lol then you shpuld also love the way he draws Monet and Sue Storm since he uses the same traces for all three of them

@invain: Storms dead eyes....*shiver*

Even more scary since there must be a real person running around looking like that.

(Finds favorite thread while looking for completely different thread) BUMP!

@hawk2916: I just saw this thread. Then I see your comment, and now, I’ll gasp in pure perplexity. *gasp*

@koays: You’re skipping Koays. Lost your Midas touch.

So newest Guilty pleasure, one word

Bunn :D

I hate the 05 still but his Exiles time hopin mix match group has been enjoyable to him. I enjoyed his Mojo story, his "guest of the week" little adventure, and his Uncanny X men before that was my like Brother Hood of Evil Mutants book i always wanted, and I still think he will be the one to get rid of the 05 forever!

LONG LIVE BUNN!

Time to be controversial. Yaaaaaayyyy!!!!!

•Greg Land has had good art.

•Jean and Logan have a better chance at working than Jean and Scott. (That was for you @hopesummersforthefuture. Not sorry @ursaber for getting her started)

•The Phoenix Five are an interesting concept.

•I can think Madelyne can get back together with Scott.

•I like the idea of a Kurt Wagner and Jean better than Rachel and Kurt. (I’m sure @Koays would agree with sentiment based solely on the fact that Rachel “is his wife”)

•I like the O5 under Bunns pen.

•I love Jean with the Phoenix Force just as much as I love her without it.

•I think Emma should be recognized as one who has more star power than Storm.

•Hope Summers still has potential in my eyes.

So, how controversial are my guilty pleasures?

I liked Death of X and IvX.

@pyrofn: which one? The joke about AVX or the stuff about Magik and Age of X

@pyrofn:

I just want a good story that catches me completely off guard in a delightful way where I cannot predict what might happen and does not retell or reuse old X-Men story devices or storylines. Preferably the lineup would consist of half classics (Jean, Cyke, Storm, Archangel, Nightcrawler, etc) and half newer/younger/less recognized mutants (Hellion and their get). Would like to see the X-Men take individual apprentices.

That or a cool new Nate Grey X-Man solo where he gradually gets his powers back LOL.

@pyrofn: i like greg land art too, even if the poses looked like something from a porno movie :O LOL o.o

grrrrr trying to ignore the jean/scott comments, even though i have a bad fever all im going to say is jott2.0/jott2.0/jott2.0/jott2.0 jott was meant to be cause xavier wanted jean to run the school while scott runs the x-men as field leader......plus i still want them to have a real baby, sorry but nathan dont cut it

@ursaber I have a fever :-'(

Sorry to hear that. May you get better.

ty :D

@hawk2916: AvX. This thread is incredibly amusing to read.

@ursaber: Give it time. We got some good signs so far, so it’s entirely possible that it could happen.

Could find it in a jumbo sized first issue. BTW not talking about X-Red, just my own guilty pleasure as this thread entails.

Not necessarily does the first issue need to have all of that from the get go but can set it up and deliver a captivating story by the end of its first arc.

@hopesummersforthefuture: You did well on the Greg land comment, but negated it with a popular opinion in supporting Scott and Jean. Disqualified!

@pyrofn: lol. Got to your part to stir up sh#t right?

@ursaber: Yeah. Thought I was in the other thread. I edited my comment. Unfortunately, I was too late. Sorry.

My guilty pleasure? When one of the super redundant characters gets killed off. Honestly, the X-Titles don’t need a bazillion and a half characters to be interesting.

There’s so many clones and alternate reality versions of existing characters running around it’s like they just copied the palette shifting of characters from a bad Street Fighter game.

I even remember what I said here, and I still stand by it.

Here's a real guilty pleasure: X-Men: The Last Stand. Like... I know the plot is sh*t but the special effects are actually pretty good and Famke Janssen will always be my first and favorite Jean Grey.

Comic guilty pleasure would probably be Ultimate X-Men. It has its problems but tbh I love the sheer brutality that they sometimes put into it.

@njchrispatrick: I will always love Magneto picking up the golden gate bridge.

@koays: And him flinging the trucks into the air.

Movie Mystique actually looked kind of sexy with scales. Weird, right?

@ashetdust: I liked it in the original trilogy. JLaw never pulled it off as well in First Class--though it was decent in DoFP--but Rebecca was Mystique. Gave her a grittier aspect and made her more empathetic instead of "Oh I've got my skulls and my perfect complexion I'm so much worse off than anyone else."

Considering he gets plenty of hate I think Quire is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine.

@hawk2916: Stirring in a boiling cauldron. I’m not greedy with the salt either. ;-)

@njchrispatrick: Don’t worry. The effects of The Last Stand aren’t bad (though Jeans demon veins and eyes could’ve been changed). Most of not all complaints are all in regards to the story and character assassination in more ways than one.

@pyrofn: lmfao

Incredibly hilarious.

Though I think they're extremely shallow and retarded I can find pleasure in some of the more action oriented books of the 90s.

I have always had a soft spot for the X-Tinction Agenda crossover. It was nice to see Jim Lee draw characters he usually didn't deal with at the time like Jean Grey, Cable, Archangel etc. and I liked the idea of like 30 mutants vs an entire island. Plus, the zeitgeist of what made the X-Men ridiculously popular was still in full swing with sexy Asian Psylocke being a new thing, Cable and Gambit were still mysterious, Wolverine was the coolest character ever. Lots of things to like about that crossover.

I also sort of non ironically like the 90s X-Force books, well, to be honest, I like the idea of it more than the actual series...

I always liked the New Mutants so naturally I like the book because a lot the characters are present in X-Force. I enjoyed the idea of the New Mutants, who were once students and incidental, reactionary heroes being turned into proactive, outlaw, child soldiers who partook in endeavors that could be seen as "terrorist activities" on behalf of Cable. It always felt it had somewhat more interesting, fresher characters at the time as well with Siryn, Warpath, Domino, Deadpool, and Shatterstar and tended to have a lot of it's own lore as X-Men and X-Factor normally dealt with standard X-Men fare. I also sort of liked the idea that mutants from all these different factions and situations converged eventually fill out X-Force with Cannoball, Sunspot, Rictor and Boom Boom having been New Mutants, Warpath, a Hellion, Feral, a Morlock, Shatterstar, from the Mojoverse, Cable, from the future, and Domino, who was a mercenary.

I just think a lot of the X-Force stories and ideas were missed opportunities on behalf of the writers. Liefeld was just more obsessed with government super warriors fighting each other than he was with telling good stories, then Nicieza came along and while he was much better than Liefeld, he did his thing where he thought writing good X-men comics was based around shallow character development, poor soap operatic themes, and super convoluted ideas like revealing Cable is really Cyclop's son from the future with Stryfe, his clone. Honestly, the build up beforehand and the mystery of why Stryfe appeared to be Cable was so much more interesting than him just being a clone. Also, revealing that the mysterious guy who was pulling the strings of Domino, Deadpool and Cable was really Cable's deranged son FROM DA FUTURE!! was some more Nicieza tier nonsense. Honestly, that series could have been a lot better in more capable hands. Possibly could have regularly outsold X-Men at the time.

Emma Frost's Phoenix five costume. Easily the most cheesiest and ridiculous thing she's ever worn, yet it was around the time I got ...'interested in comics.'

Well, it goddamn worked. Eventually got her variant for Marvel Heroes and Marvel Avengers Alliance. Now it's less of a guilty pleasure, and more of a sombre reminder. Rip.