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    The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.

    Given Current State, How Will The X-Men Ever Heal?

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    The X-men are a team, but they have also been a group of friends and even family. Given the current state of the X-men, how will they ever come together as a cohesive unit once more? Based on attitudes and opinions since the break the X-men and the O5 are firmly on one side while the WAX-men are on another, even when not present Wolverines' second in command Storm spits ire and angst against the X-men. If there is such a division between the leaders, how can they ever come back together.

    While Bendis is firmly determined (based on his own admission) getting ready to widen the gap with the will, while possibly changing up some alliances, how can another writer repair them?

    Which members are preventing a new genesis of X?

    Who can repair it?

    I would love to see them come together once again, without a death or huge tragedy to precipitate the moment.

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    they have already demonstrated in No More Humans that they are still capable of working an functioning together...though still with some degree of strife (coughHANKcough). As far as actually coming together though and being one unit....it would likely have to be one of two things. Either Logan, Storm, and Hank realize that what Scott is seeking is still the Xavier dream, and accept that sometimes his more aggressive approach is needed to protect their people......or Scott has to backtrack on his position completely, probably turn himself in, then do some super heroics to get the hero community to allow him to continue working with the x-men.

    Right now the divide is mostly a philosophical one (except in Hanks and to a lesser degree Logan's case where its deeply personal)....Scott still wants unity with Humanity and equal rights...but is no longer willing to play nice with the government/avengers/status quo. He is working outside the system and in some cases directly against it to insure Mutant safety and freedom.

    The JGS crowd on the other hand is more the classic "show them we are peaceful and can work within the system and they will eventually accept us". Scotts radical approach puts out the opposite message. This is something that has been done since the beginning and while advances were made, it was always slow, and could never deal with individuals who would not be swayed. Its the more peaceful approach, but it doesn't make the noise or draw the attention that Cyclops's revolutionary actions do.

    While Scotts actions have indeed started a movement....magazine covers, pro-mutant rallies at colleges, marches, posters, and T-shirts....it runs the risk of drowning out the more peaceful passive approach that the JGS has. Younger people who already have pro-mutant feelings will of course flock to Scotts movement of action....but the people who might be sympathetic but apprehensive will see his radical action and could decide they want no part of it, whereas they might have been convinced by seeing the JGS.

    The people who flat out hate them though will likely always hate them regardless, and that's an area where Scotts (and Logans) more heavy handed tactics will be needed.

    I for one kind of like having two separate teams...but I agree that the current animosity between them is getting old. what I would really like to see is Scott promoting the JGS for young mutants he encounters, to speak highly of it if he goes and visits another rally, and in general to show that while he may be out there fighting and doing what he thinks needs to be done that the JGS is what the future of Human Mutant co-existence could look like.

    At the same time I wouldn't mind seeing the JGS not hurl insults at him non-stop and maybe remind him that he is still part of their family, and at least show a degree of understanding that he is on their side. He is fighting so that the school and other places like it can exist.

    Most importantly Hank needs to get over his grudge

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    Personally I like them better split up, just wish every time Scott was around Logan/Hank/Ororo we didn't have to read the same argument over and over and they just agree to disagree about their stances.

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    Personally I like them better split up, just wish every time Scott was around Logan/Hank/Ororo we didn't have to read the same argument over and over and they just agree to disagree about their stances.

    Yeah, that'd be awesome.

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    @lateralus said:

    Personally I like them better split up, just wish every time Scott was around Logan/Hank/Ororo we didn't have to read the same argument over and over and they just agree to disagree about their stances.

    Yeah, that'd be awesome.

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    #6  Edited By Koays

    I want them to heal.....just not now.

    Uncanny X-men at this point is the best title and I don't want to lose that or it's story anytime soon.

    That said, I get that the reason people don't like the back and forth between the JGS and Cyclops is because it's repeated constantly. But remember it's a major point of the books that the others don't agree with Cyclops' and don't understand why he's doing what he's doing.

    Granted it isn't that effective when every other week beast and the others are crossing over and reminding everyone they don't like eachother, but the eventual culmination would lose something if they didn't remind us that Scotts line of thought is WAY off from the others and dangerously so.

    Though it would help if Cyclops actually did something other then get attacked by sentinels so the others don't look crazy for objecting fundamentally to the one speech he made a year ago. And then instead of crossovers they can build on things by showing the news reporting on Cyclops and the others reacting to his acts in their own books

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    @koays said:

    Though it would help if Cyclops actually did something other then get attacked by sentinels so the others don't look crazy for objecting fundamentally to the one speech he made a year ago. And then instead of crossovers they can build on things by showing the news reporting on Cyclops and the others reacting to his acts in their own books

    This. I'm sorry but the JGS look like a bunch of idiots and hypocrites to me as I haven't seen Scott and crew do anything "revolutionary" since they broke him out of prison. I see no war being waged just people defending themselves after they are attacked, which both sides do all of the time. It's almost like Logan's group is saying, How dare you defend yourself! when that's exactly what they do themselves. Both groups try to save new mutants and in fact Scott recommended the school to a prisoner when he was incarcerated. They might not like what he said but I get the feeling that it has nothing to do with what Scott and his group have actually done and is really just an objection to Scott himself on a personal and childish level.

    Does anyone think that either group would just hand a mutant kid over to some unknown government agency without resistance? I don't know, it all seems to be much ado about nothing and if Logan, Ororo and company can get over themselves, I think it'll be fine.

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    #8  Edited By Fallschirmjager

    @wolverine08 said:

    @lateralus said:

    Personally I like them better split up, just wish every time Scott was around Logan/Hank/Ororo we didn't have to read the same argument over and over and they just agree to disagree about their stances.

    Yeah, that'd be awesome.

    And then comicvine will stop arguing over Marvel vs DC!

    err...

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    I like that Scott/Logan/Hank/Storm argue. Scott is all for mutants. the others have major affiliations to the outside world and could be seen as betrayers to the cause.

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    Plotwise/In Character: I would love it if the younger X-Men voted the older character out of leadership positions - Logan, Ororo, Hank, and even Scott, had their chance(s), and are just proving that as leaders, none of them have what it takes to reconcile having powers with having a normal life. They are simply too focused on their egos to be unifiers. I'm a Scott fan, and I haven't seen anything that revolutionary about his group's position. Ironically, Emma was more revolutionary as the White Queen doing her own thing, than she has become since associating with the X-Men. Even Wolverine's choice of staff had less to do with teaching ability than it had to do with who he knew. It's funny how this shows that some of the worst leaders to have in peacetime are soldiers that have retired and are marked by their wartime careers.

    Realistically: Things will change when a new writer comes in, and decides that everyone is going to be friends again. There will probably be a mega crossover event to drive sales.

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    the real, adult jean grey. Also did anyone see that in anxm28 kid xavier wanted to kill teen jean grey because he thinks it would end the x-men?????

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    #12  Edited By Koays

    @numi said:
    @koays said:

    Though it would help if Cyclops actually did something other then get attacked by sentinels so the others don't look crazy for objecting fundamentally to the one speech he made a year ago. And then instead of crossovers they can build on things by showing the news reporting on Cyclops and the others reacting to his acts in their own books

    This. I'm sorry but the JGS look like a bunch of idiots and hypocrites to me as I haven't seen Scott and crew do anything "revolutionary" since they broke him out of prison. I see no war being waged just people defending themselves after they are attacked, which both sides do all of the time. It's almost like Logan's group is saying, How dare you defend yourself! when that's exactly what they do themselves. Both groups try to save new mutants and in fact Scott recommended the school to a prisoner when he was incarcerated. They might not like what he said but I get the feeling that it has nothing to do with what Scott and his group have actually done and is really just an objection to Scott himself on a personal and childish level.

    Does anyone think that either group would just hand a mutant kid over to some unknown government agency without resistance? I don't know, it all seems to be much ado about nothing and if Logan, Ororo and company can get over themselves, I think it'll be fine.



    Of the three reasons they are split:

    Cyclops ideals
    The death of Xavier
    Being wanted by Shield

    Two of them don't work since Colossus is also wanted but welcome, and if they are mad about Cyke killing Xavier their either never going to forgive him or he'll be forgiven to easily.

    And the thing about Cykes ideals is pretty much everything Cyclops is saying now he was saying when they formed Utopia and has been saying since then.

    So the only thing left is for Cyclops to do something so off the wall that they actually have a defined line that he has crossed to explain why so many are against him.

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    @lateralus said:

    Personally I like them better split up, just wish every time Scott was around Logan/Hank/Ororo we didn't have to read the same argument over and over and they just agree to disagree about their stances.

    Yeah, that'd be awesome.

    lol "You killed Charles Xavier!"

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    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

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    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

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    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I am SO waiting for the X-men to just make UP or something like that.

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    @koays said:

    @lateralus said:

    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

    I don't. Wanda had less control of what was happening during House of M than what Scott did during AvX....but in things like No More Humans, you don't see Rogue arguing with Scott.

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    @koays said:

    @lateralus said:

    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

    I don't. Wanda had less control of what was happening during House of M than what Scott did during AvX....but in things like No More Humans, you don't see Rogue arguing with Scott.

    Didn't Rogue kill Grim Reaper also in that same story where she argues with Wanda?

    And her OOC portrayal is just being covered up with "Xavier's death took a toll on her",which is probably understandable I guess.

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    @lateralus said:

    @koays said:

    @lateralus said:

    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

    I don't. Wanda had less control of what was happening during House of M than what Scott did during AvX....but in things like No More Humans, you don't see Rogue arguing with Scott.

    Didn't Rogue kill Grim Reaper also in that same story where she argues with Wanda?

    And her OOC portrayal is just being covered up with "Xavier's death took a toll on her",which is probably understandable I guess.

    Yeah, they both happen in Uncanny Avengers

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    #20  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

    @koays said:

    @lateralus said:

    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

    I don't. Wanda had less control of what was happening during House of M than what Scott did during AvX....but in things like No More Humans, you don't see Rogue arguing with Scott.

    How do you know that?

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    @koays said:

    @lateralus said:

    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

    I don't. Wanda had less control of what was happening during House of M than what Scott did during AvX....but in things like No More Humans, you don't see Rogue arguing with Scott.

    She could have not made her children out of the devil's soul. She could have not went to Dr. Doom for help and willingly take a unknown entity. Cyclops did not choose the Phoenix Force and outside of killing Xavier he didn't do anything evil like Jean and Namor did.

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    @lateralus said:

    @koays said:

    @lateralus said:

    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

    I don't. Wanda had less control of what was happening during House of M than what Scott did during AvX....but in things like No More Humans, you don't see Rogue arguing with Scott.

    How do you know that?

    Know what, that Wanda had less control?

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    @twix_right_side said:

    @lateralus said:

    @koays said:

    @lateralus said:

    @twix_right_side: I know man. It is almost as bad a Rogue and her Wanda hating "yada yada yada House of M" arguments

    I actually thought Rogue had a point with that one.....

    I don't. Wanda had less control of what was happening during House of M than what Scott did during AvX....but in things like No More Humans, you don't see Rogue arguing with Scott.

    Didn't Rogue kill Grim Reaper also in that same story where she argues with Wanda?

    And her OOC portrayal is just being covered up with "Xavier's death took a toll on her",which is probably understandable I guess.

    Yeah, they both happen in Uncanny Avengers

    Well yea Rogues a bit out of character in Uncanny Avengers (alot angrier then she's been in years). But i can sort of get her directing her anger at Scarlet Witch after all the screwed up stuff the X-Men went through because of the Witch lashing out. And if she's illogically angry it makes sense that she'd blame Scarlet Witch in part for even the phoenix having to come.

    Though this is just me making sense of the very poor arguments she puts up against the Witch and even Havok. Since even when she has a point about them being wrong, Remender usually makes it the wrong point.

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    #24  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

    In comics, teams will always manage to get back together in some fashion. And I doubt Bendis is going to make the separation rift even bigger. He always hypes the hell out of his books and veru little happens. Remember how BotA was supposed to shake the X-verse to its foundation and the "big pay off" was Kitty Pryde and the 05 defecting to UXM in 2 pages? It has had such a huge impact /sarcasm. So I'm not counting on Bendis doing much of anything as far as that arc goes making the rift bigger. It's just his usual hype with virtually no pay off, in fact, it's practically Marvel's signature. While in real life the stuff that happens in the books gets bridges burned permanently, comics don't have to follow it. The teams fight, argue, stay apart, then boom a common threat occurs, they hug, shake hands and all is forgiven.

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    I really want the X-Men to make up with each other already (even though I do like the idea about them being split into several different teams as it would allow each character to shine). I always loved the family feel of the X-Men and it's a shame that we're seeing less of that with the divide between the teams.

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    More mutants will somehow drive them together in the end.

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    Of course its the writers who are majing everyone seem petty and ridiculous. While I enjoy the seperate teams with different focus and approach, the angst is really getting old. I say keep it seperate but still come together. I'd live to see an Astonishing title in which select members work together to handle extinction level stuff sort of similar to how the recent graphic novel by Mike Carey was done. I am encouraged somewhat by what I saw in K&Y's Amazing Xmen issue. Seeing Colossus come to the team after everything and for Storm to accept even referring to him as a brother was cool and gave me at least some fleeting hope

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    #28  Edited By adamTRMM

    Two things:

    1. Scott will do his thing without interacting with JGS and all that immature inter-trolling that happens right now
    2. JGS try to make something more exciting than being attacked in three issues the same week, something we've never seen before
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    @adamtrmm: But Cyclops killed Charles Xavier!

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    @night4345:

    That's why he will be all underground and mystery, lol

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    @adamtrmm: If Cyclops is actually underground and mysterious then how will Bendis get his quota of Cyclops killed Xavier statements in every issue?

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    #32  Edited By adamTRMM

    @night4345:

    That's, with many other reasons, exactly why I dis Bendis on Uncanny :) Cyclops ISN'T underground and mystery.

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    I think the x-men will heal if white crown jean returns. it is obvious that xavier's dream is still alive in both teams. What the x-men lacks now is its heart-adult jean. Thanks to Bendis, teen jean isnt going to take the road that lead to adult jean's being the heart of the x-men.

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    It's kind of funny in retrospect, because I remember there being animosity between Storm's X-Men and Cylops' X-Factor because the X-Men were underground and not really living up to Xavier's ideals.

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