Gambler's X-Men Thread

#1 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

SPOILERS

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I've made a couple individual X-Threads but I figure with all the new titles and re-launches, I would just make one thread for all the upcoming titles.

Here are some links to other X-Threads you may find entertaining.

Divided We Fall:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/x-men-divided-we-fall/543389/&c=72&72

Gambit cast in new Wolverine Movie:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/gambit-cast-in-x-men-origins-wolverine-film/579223/&c=47&47

Whats gunna happen to the current New X-Men?:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/whats-gunna-happen-to-the-current-new-x-men/550398/&c=89&89

X-Men Animated Series:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/preview-for-new-x-men-animated-series/534665/&c=46&46

Messiah Complex:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/messiah-complex/308667/&c=622&622

New X-Men relaunched again?:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/new-x-men-relaunched-again/435407/&c=65&65

Gen Next:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/gen-next/605307/&c=5&5

Which X-Man is not coming Home?:

http://www.comicvine.com/message/which-x-man-is-not-coming-home-spoilers/606223/&page=1#post606282

Just finished reading this one. I like the way they've gone back and re-examined some of the decisions Xavier maid during his early years as headmaster. Like taking away Beast's memories of his parents and vise versa. And trying to manipulate Scott's mind (without his knowledge) in hopes of making him into a better leader.

As most of you know by now, Xavier is being kept alive (if you wanna call it that) by Exodus. Who seems only interesting in obtaining the knowledge of Xavier, rather then actually saving the man.

But my favorite part is at the end, the return of Magneto. And he seems awfully confidant for a man who was De-Powered.


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#2 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

God I love Erik Lensherr. He is made of super-condensed awesome.

#3 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, Brubaker seems to have come to the realization that Bendis left Magneto powered after New Avengers #20, and is back-pedaling.

Well, you said there were pieces you were putting in place in “Extremists,” and a big one is that these days Magneto is…somewhere. Any comment on whether he’ll be showing up soon?There is a plan for Magneto right now. I know he’ll be used in X-Men: Legacy, and we’ll be using him in Uncanny too. That was sort of laying the groundwork for “Messiah Complex” and for the return of Magneto. I think people thought “Extremists” would have a lot more Magneto than it did, but for me it was always going to be a red herring, and the twist at the end that we’d find out was that he really wasn’t unpowered. He was just pretending. He’s had his powers back since that issue of Avengers, and I’ll let Bendis explain how that works. [Laughs] I think you just yell “XORN!” and then you get your powers

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=268238&page=149

Now what is more fun, from this interview, it sounds like Magneto may have a big role in Secret Invasion.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=13154

#4 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah... i reckon Magneto is still fully powered...

M

#5 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Magneto is a Skrull?

#6 Posted by Buckshot (18925 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

But my favorite part is at the end, the return of Magneto. And he seems awfully confidant for a man who was De-Powered."

That was my favorite moment as well. (Next favorite was Exodus getting owned by the psychic defenses of a man with a hole in his brain.)

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#7 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

no way is magneto a skrul: it wudn't work the x-men;s greatest enemy.

do the x-men have anything to do with secret invasion? hope not.

#8 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"no way is magneto a skrul: it wudn't work the x-men;s greatest enemy.do the x-men have anything to do with secret invasion? hope not."

I don't really think so either, but it wouldn't surprise me any. Everyone is suspect

#9 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

i also hope that :

Angel Darwin

Cyclops Vulcan

Jean Grey

Quicksilver Prodigy

Emma Frost Surge

Havoc Hellion

Polaris Elixir

Rachel Gray Rockslide

Nighcrawler Mercury

Gambit Dust

Iceman Anole

Cannonball Stepford Cuckoos

Rogue

Madrox

Monet

Rictor

Siryn

Lalya Miller

Wolfsbane

Wolverine

X-23

Warpath

are not skrulls.

#10 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

iSHADOW says:

"The Enigma says:
"i also hope that : Angel Darwin Cyclops Vulcan Jean Grey Quicksilver Prodigy Emma Frost Surge Havoc Hellion Polaris Elixir Rachel Gray Rockslide Nighcrawler Mercury Gambit Dust Iceman Anole Cannonball Stepford Cuckoos Rogue Madrox Monet Rictor Siryn Lalya Miller Wolfsbane Wolverine X-23 Warpath are not skrulls. "
i hear that theyre all skrulls and have been since before house of m"

wtf... why wud u even say that... which is why marvel spent the last three years doing stories and wasted time and money on messiah complex? i don;t think so...... i wud say that strom is a skrull candidate. (wolverine is not as they did the skrullverine b4).

#11 Posted by iSHADOW (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"i also hope that :Angel DarwinCyclops VulcanJean GreyQuicksilver ProdigyEmma Frost SurgeHavoc HellionPolaris ElixirRachel Gray RockslideNighcrawler MercuryGambit DustIceman AnoleCannonball Stepford CuckoosRogueMadroxMonetRictorSirynLalya MillerWolfsbaneWolverineX-23Warpathare not skrulls."

i hear that theyre all skrulls and have been since before house of m

#12 Posted by fesak (7073 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"iSHADOW says:
"The Enigma says:
"i also hope that : Angel Darwin Cyclops Vulcan Jean Grey Quicksilver Prodigy Emma Frost Surge Havoc Hellion Polaris Elixir Rachel Gray Rockslide Nighcrawler Mercury Gambit Dust Iceman Anole Cannonball Stepford Cuckoos Rogue Madrox Monet Rictor Siryn Lalya Miller Wolfsbane Wolverine X-23 Warpath are not skrulls. "
i hear that theyre all skrulls and have been since before house of m"

wtf... why wud u even say that... which is why marvel spent the last three years doing stories and wasted time and money on messiah complex? i don;t think so...... i wud say that strom is a skrull candidate. (wolverine is not as they did the skrullverine b4)."

Opposed to spending the last 30 years on Spider-Man stories and then retconning everything?

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#13 Posted by zero edge (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

Just read this issue, and thought it was fantastic. I'm glad to see Sentinel back to normal... sort of..

#14 Posted by iSHADOW (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"iSHADOW says:
"The Enigma says:
"i also hope that : Angel Darwin Cyclops Vulcan Jean Grey Quicksilver Prodigy Emma Frost Surge Havoc Hellion Polaris Elixir Rachel Gray Rockslide Nighcrawler Mercury Gambit Dust Iceman Anole Cannonball Stepford Cuckoos Rogue Madrox Monet Rictor Siryn Lalya Miller Wolfsbane Wolverine X-23 Warpath are not skrulls. "
i hear that theyre all skrulls and have been since before house of m"

wtf... why wud u even say that... which is why marvel spent the last three years doing stories and wasted time and money on messiah complex? i don;t think so...... i wud say that strom is a skrull candidate. (wolverine is not as they did the skrullverine b4)."

haha i was just messing with you dude.

#15 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"i also hope that : Angel Darwin Cyclops Vulcan Jean Grey Quicksilver Prodigy Emma Frost Surge Havoc Hellion Polaris Elixir Rachel Gray Rockslide Nighcrawler Mercury Gambit Dust Iceman Anole Cannonball Stepford Cuckoos Rogue Madrox Monet Rictor Siryn Lalya Miller Wolfsbane Wolverine X-23 Warpath are not skrulls. "

I definitely hope X-23 is not a skrull. I really started liking her. But now I'm piss she is in X-force.

#16 Posted by iSHADOW (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Yeah Sentinel is cool character.What I don't get though is how Exodus apparently bounced right up after being nearly killed by Dust, and then helped steal Xavier's body."

yeah that is strange

#17 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Sentinel is cool character.

What I don't get though is how Exodus apparently bounced right up after being nearly killed by Dust, and then helped steal Xavier's body.

#18 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

zero edge says:

"Just read this issue, and thought it was fantastic. I'm glad to see Sentinel back to normal... sort of.."

its jsut marvel woudl loose abotu 1/4 of their fanbase if they sed that x-men were all skrulls just to boost sales in another.... its seems and unliekly move especially after all the massive hype with messiah complex then divided we stand... i think its only really storm thats a definate yes..... but others i doubt.

not cyclops or emma or any of the main team... wolverine will not be a skrull as they have already done it...

do the x-men play a bg role in SI?

#19 Posted by Cobalt (1471 posts) - - Show Bio

Exodus could have easily teleported the Prof and himself to god knows where. I would be easy for him.

#20 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

who from the x-universe do u think is a skrull?

#21 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Cobalt says:

"Exodus could have easily teleported the Prof and himself to god knows where. I would be easy for him."

He was all but dead. I'm not questioning his powers, I'm questioning the fact that he was laid out (presumably dead) and according to Legacy he was up with no damage or ill effect seconds later.

#22 Posted by iSHADOW (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"who from the x-universe do u think is a skrull?"

your really worried about this huh?

#23 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

iSHADOW says:

"The Enigma says:
"who from the x-universe do u think is a skrull?"
your really worried about this huh?"

yeh it's just that i wud be pissed off if important x-men were skrulls after all the bother of the Messiah Coplex and the build up over the last few years.

I doubt that any major x-men will be skrulls: collosus hopefully but i severely doubt it.

#24 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"iSHADOW says:
"The Enigma says:
"who from the x-universe do u think is a skrull?"
your really worried about this huh?"

yeh it's just that i wud be pissed off if important x-men were skrulls after all the bother of the Messiah Coplex and the build up over the last few years.

I doubt that any major x-men will be skrulls: collosus hopefully but i severely doubt it."

I almost gare-un-tee at least one major X-Men will be a Skrull. I'm beating Xavier is.

#25 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"The Enigma says:
"iSHADOW says:
"The Enigma says:
"who from the x-universe do u think is a skrull?"
your really worried about this huh?"
yeh it's just that i wud be pissed off if important x-men were skrulls after all the bother of the Messiah Coplex and the build up over the last few years. I doubt that any major x-men will be skrulls: collosus hopefully but i severely doubt it."
I almost gare-un-tee at least **one** major X-Men will be a Skrull. I'm beating Xavier is."

y cos of the Kadre K thing?

y Xavier? who else coudl be a skrull.. i bet storm.

#26 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

fesak says:

"The Enigma says:
"iSHADOW says:
"The Enigma says:
"who from the x-universe do u think is a skrull?"
your really worried about this huh?"

yeh it's just that i wud be pissed off if important x-men were skrulls after all the bother of the Messiah Coplex and the build up over the last few years.

I doubt that any major x-men will be skrulls: collosus hopefully but i severely doubt it."

It would piss me off if some important X-Men are not skrulls. They really chickened out with Decimation, so i hope they don't screw this up as well."

Agreed.

#27 Posted by fesak (7073 posts) - - Show Bio

The Enigma says:

"iSHADOW says:
"The Enigma says:
"who from the x-universe do u think is a skrull?"
your really worried about this huh?"

yeh it's just that i wud be pissed off if important x-men were skrulls after all the bother of the Messiah Coplex and the build up over the last few years.

I doubt that any major x-men will be skrulls: collosus hopefully but i severely doubt it."

It would piss me off if some important X-Men are not skrulls. They really chickened out with Decimation, so i hope they don't screw this up as well.

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#28 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm a Skrull, god I hope so.

#29 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Storm a Skrull, god I hope so."

deffinately storm and collosus.

i hoep not cyclops. emma. wolverine. havoc. polaris. etc... madrox. monet...

#30 Posted by zero edge (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Storm a Skrull, god I hope so."

Oh yes me too, just to see Storm fan's reactions.

#31 Posted by fesak (7073 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Storm a Skrull, god I hope so."

Yes, please.

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#32 Posted by iSHADOW (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

fesak says:

"Gambler says:
"Storm a Skrull, god I hope so."

Yes, please."

are we sure bp is a skrull too. othrwise i feel bad for the guy.

#33 Posted by fesak (7073 posts) - - Show Bio

iSHADOW says:

"fesak says:
"Gambler says:
"Storm a Skrull, god I hope so."

Yes, please."

are we sure bp is a skrull too. othrwise i feel bad for the guy."

Why? Doing it with an alien have to be awesome.

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#34 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

fesak says:

"iSHADOW says:
"fesak says:
"Gambler says:
"Storm a Skrull, god I hope so."
Yes, please."
are we sure bp is a skrull too. othrwise i feel bad for the guy."
Why? Doing it with an alien have to be awesome."

and if the alien had weatehr powers that wub be really really kinky:P

#35 Posted by Cobalt (1471 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Cobalt says:
"Exodus could have easily teleported the Prof and himself to god knows where. I would be easy for him."
He was all but dead. I'm not questioning his powers, I'm questioning the fact that he was laid out (presumably dead) and according to Legacy he was up with no damage or ill effect seconds later."

Maybe Dust didn't do as much damage as she thought she did. Besides, who knows what Apocalypse did to him while awakening his powers.

#36 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10084 posts) - - Show Bio

I read a cool hard cover X-men.

It had some cool characters in it.Badass art,i think it was called...Supernovas...

It was a story surrounding,Rogue,Sabertooth,Cannonball,few others...

There was some cool dude name Perro in it too.

#37 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"I read a cool hard cover X-men.It had some cool characters in it.Badass art,i think it was called...Supernovas...It was a story surrounding,Rogue,Sabertooth,Cannonball,few others...There was some cool dude name Perro in it too."

Sounds like the Exiles.

@Cobalt.

#38 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10084 posts) - - Show Bio

@G-The art was done by the same guy who did the AOA anniversary thingy.

#39 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Posted by Cobalt (1471 posts) - - Show Bio

@ Gambler-We both know that was some bullcrap. When has Exodus not been able to use his powers at the same time. I understand they had to water him down, but please, you of all people should know better. Remember Bloodties, or a little crossover named Fatal Attactions. If any of these ring a bell you know Emma merely engaging him in telepatic combat wouldn't do jack to. And it damn sure won't stop him from using his other powers. Hell, he was flying during the battle so if flight is one of his regular powers, I consede.

#41 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

You could look at it that way, or you could look at it as, while going up against arguably the Marvel U's third most powerful telepath, he couldn't afford to use his powers for other purposes. His concentration needed to be focused on the task at hand.

Again though, my complaint doesn't lie in his powers and abilities. It has to do with the fact that he's half dead there, while in Legacy he apparently bounced back within minutes. The inconsistency is my main complaint.

#42 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10084 posts) - - Show Bio

This was it..

#43 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"This was it..
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Thats from the Children of the Vault arc. Good story.

Edit:

Sorry, the Arc was called Supernovas (as you said earlier)

The Villains where called Children of the Vault.


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#44 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10084 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah,those dudes were dope.

Paid,like 30 beanz for that mutha..

#45 Posted by Gloom (3653 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

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Haha! Gotta love Emma and her snappy lines.

#46 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

She's a perfect blend of bItch and hero. (heavy on the b!tch)

#47 Posted by Cobalt (1471 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler-you would place Emma over the shadow King, Legion, Moondragon, and a list of others that for some reason excape me at the moment.

#48 Posted by The Enigma (1882 posts) - - Show Bio

i agree with gambler as the inginuity that emma has shown with her powers is astounding.

#49 Posted by fesak (7073 posts) - - Show Bio

Cobalt says:

"@Gambler-you would place Emma over the shadow King, Legion, Moondragon, and a list of others that for some reason excape me at the moment."

Well, Shadow King and Legion are dead, and Moondragon was transformed into a dragon in Annihilation Conquest, but maybe she kept her powers? Haven't read it yet.

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#50 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Cobalt says:

"@Gambler-you would place Emma over the shadow King, Legion, Moondragon, and a list of others that for some reason excape me at the moment."

Yes. Pyslocke was more then a match for the Shadow King (in the Astral Plain) Legion is dead (as posted by Fesak) but even when he was alive I'd put Emma (now) in front of him. Moondragon once tried a telepathic assault on She-Hulk and failed miserably. So yes, I put Emma in front of those three.

Jean Grey (Phoenix)

Xavier

Emma Frost

Now I did say arguably, cause there are other characters such as Nate Grey (deceased) Cable (still not fully powered) Exodus (we only have the one fight so far to go off from)

Who belong in the discussion. The Stepford Cukoos are in there as well.

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