Cant get into WatX

#1 Posted by xAnimosity (199 posts) - - Show Bio

I read the first 3 issues of Wolverine and the X-Men and couldnt get into it. I didnt think it was very funny and it only features a couple of the X-Men I love. I grew up on the 90's X-Men carton and just started reading comics again a few months ago after a 14 year hiatus. I read about whats been going on in the X world and what Schism did to get myself a little caught up. Is there any other highly recommended title that will feature a lot of the characters I grew up on. Or will I have to rely on reading old trades for now?

I am also currently reading X-Force and am loving it. Best book on my list for sure.

#2 Posted by Kallarkz (3389 posts) - - Show Bio

Try Uncanny X-men

#3 Posted by Dman1366 (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

Try Uncanny X-men

this or xmen legacy. How do you not like WatX?

#4 Posted by ReVamp (23014 posts) - - Show Bio

Astonishing has a bunch of good X-Men in it, but I don't think its anything special per se.

#5 Posted by Kallarkz (3389 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dman1366 said:

@Kallarkz said:

Try Uncanny X-men

this or xmen legacy. How do you not like WatX?

i think people go in expecting it to be pure action like uncanny.

I think if you read it with an open mind you'll love it. Its a great read and that is not a bandwagon opinion. I have every issue and plan to continue collecting it because I enjoy it.

#6 Posted by Dman1366 (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

@Dman1366 said:

@Kallarkz said:

Try Uncanny X-men

this or xmen legacy. How do you not like WatX?

i think people go in expecting it to be pure action like uncanny.

I think if you read it with an open mind you'll love it. Its a great read and that is not a bandwagon opinion. I have every issue and plan to continue collecting it because I enjoy it.

i agree, i am in the same boat. I think Aaron is one of the FEW people that captures the better aspects of the X-kids in SCHOOL. i also like how it is more targeted for adults. Aaron is also one of the few to capture Kitty and Rachel perfectly. IMO

#7 Edited by xAnimosity (199 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dman1366 said:

@Kallarkz said:

Try Uncanny X-men

this or xmen legacy. How do you not like WatX?

I really dont like the art. So that was the first challenge. I didnt find it as funny as people were saying it was. I also was expecting a little more action than what was going on. I do like Aaron as a writer, I think this book just might not be for my taste.

I am going to read one more issue before I officially drop it. Ill check out Uncanny X-Men and see if I like it.

Thanks for the suggestions :)

#8 Posted by Dman1366 (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

@xAnimosity: It is a light hearted book, there is not much action. The book just has a lot more character development. Uncanny, except 4, has TONS of action.

#9 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3828 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like it because it's unrealistic, but I appreciate that WatX accomplishes its goals quite well. There are a lot of very happy readers picking up that book on a regular basis. I'm not one of them - unfortunately, flamethrowers in bathrooms and Krakoa Monsters turn me off.

#10 Posted by Dman1366 (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

@PhoenixoftheTides said:

I don't like it because it's unrealistic, but I appreciate that WatX accomplishes its goals quite well. There are a lot of very happy readers picking up that book on a regular basis. I'm not one of them - unfortunately, flamethrowers in bathrooms and Krakoa Monsters turn me off.

You're reading comics about mutants that can do supernatural powers because of an "x" gene. How much more realistic can you get?

#11 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3828 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dman1366 said:

@PhoenixoftheTides said:

I don't like it because it's unrealistic, but I appreciate that WatX accomplishes its goals quite well. There are a lot of very happy readers picking up that book on a regular basis. I'm not one of them - unfortunately, flamethrowers in bathrooms and Krakoa Monsters turn me off.

You're reading comics about mutants that can do supernatural powers because of an "x" gene. How much more realistic can you get?

I get that part; I'm perfectly willing to suspend disbelief for super powers, super villains, mystical entities and etc. But the flamethrowers in bathrooms, Krakoa Monster security system and etc were just too weird (and corny) for me to get into. Just way too wacky. For example, remember when Wolverine and Kid Omega went to another planet's casino to raise money for the school? I'm glad it doesn't take itself too seriously, but I do tend to like it when the stories are not so similar to Saturday morning cartoons.

#12 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (6291 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the fact that it doesn't have a serious tone to it. The writing is funny and smart and the art has'nt dissappointed yet. It's my favorite X book currently

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#13 Posted by xAnimosity (199 posts) - - Show Bio

I couldnt agree more. It was just to cheesy and corny for me. I am going to give Uncanny X-Men a whirl. If I dont like it, Ill just stick to X-Force for now. That book is too good!

#14 Posted by Dman1366 (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

@PhoenixoftheTides: I can see where you are coming from. I didn't mean to sound like a dick. i can see how this book can be too childish at times.

With everything being so serious with AvX and Bendis writing terrible Avengers, and Cyclops being a villain; it is nice to have a book that is relaxing.

#15 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3828 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dman1366 said:

@PhoenixoftheTides: I can see where you are coming from. I didn't mean to sound like a dick. i can see how this book can be too childish at times.

With everything being so serious with AvX and Bendis writing terrible Avengers, and Cyclops being a villain; it is nice to have a book that is relaxing.

No worries - you didn't come off that way to me at all!

#16 Posted by Osian2 (461 posts) - - Show Bio

It just seems to me that if you don't read WATX you're not really missing anything important (this is just so far, things could change) where as if you read Uncanny there are major crises to deal with i.e. Sinister, Tabula Rasa, UNIT and they seem to be much more directly involved in AVX. This doesn't mean that I don't like WATX it's just too focused on the school for my taste rather than the actual purpose of the x-men.

#17 Posted by BlackArmor (6213 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

Try Uncanny X-men

It is mandatory reading for awesome people.

#18 Posted by blazinasian112 (1053 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor said:

@Kallarkz said:

Try Uncanny X-men

It is mandatory reading for awesome people.

This (and Uncanny Xforce)

#19 Posted by MarvelGrey (251 posts) - - Show Bio

I wanted to like WATX but they started it of really awful. Hellfire kids I can't believe he continued with that, the art is, well i've always hated Bachalo's art the only thing worse than that is Greg Tocchinni's art on Uncanny X-force 23. Don't get me wrong i love light-hearted books Excalibur is my favourite series but this was pushing it with an amazing cast he just couldn't execute to bring the chatacter's personalities out. The worse part about this is that this is the only comic that Kitty is in...

#20 Posted by x_29 (2375 posts) - - Show Bio

I wanted to like WATX... and did:) Try Uncanny.

#21 Posted by Brazen_Intellect (1157 posts) - - Show Bio

WatX is the change of pace book (not counting X-Factor as it's not a part of any of the AvX garbage) but IMO it's problem is it is just too different in tone from the rest of the X-books. I can understand wanting to have a title with a less "impending doom" tone, but it is just downright silly. Retooling the book to fall dead center between UXM and the current WatX should satisfy most of the readership

#22 Posted by John Valentine (16402 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

Astonishing has a bunch of good X-Men in it, but I don't think its anything special per se.

Urgh…. Terrible, terrible book, even if it's got a reasonably okay cast.

#23 Posted by KainScion (2993 posts) - - Show Bio
#24 Posted by ReVamp (23014 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

@ReVamp said:

Astonishing has a bunch of good X-Men in it, but I don't think its anything special per se.

Urgh…. Terrible, terrible book, even if it's got a reasonably okay cast.

We'll have to disagree on that.

#25 Posted by John Valentine (16402 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@John Valentine said:

@ReVamp said:

Astonishing has a bunch of good X-Men in it, but I don't think its anything special per se.

Urgh…. Terrible, terrible book, even if it's got a reasonably okay cast.

We'll have to disagree on that.

I just don't care for Northstar.

#26 Posted by ReVamp (23014 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

@ReVamp said:

@John Valentine said:

@ReVamp said:

Astonishing has a bunch of good X-Men in it, but I don't think its anything special per se.

Urgh…. Terrible, terrible book, even if it's got a reasonably okay cast.

We'll have to disagree on that.

I just don't care for Northstar.

Wolverine, Gambit, Iceman, Warbird.

All we need is for Pryde to get into that.

I don't think its a bad book either. Its... average. The Art isn't doing it any favorites and the plot has been... meh.

#27 Posted by X35 (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

Bah. Bachalo's art is the best thing about WatX. :(

#28 Posted by John Valentine (16402 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@John Valentine said:

@ReVamp said:

@John Valentine said:

@ReVamp said:

Astonishing has a bunch of good X-Men in it, but I don't think its anything special per se.

Urgh…. Terrible, terrible book, even if it's got a reasonably okay cast.

We'll have to disagree on that.

I just don't care for Northstar.

Wolverine, Gambit, Iceman, Warbird.

All we need is for Pryde to get into that.

I don't think its a bad book either. Its... average. The Art isn't doing it any favorites and the plot has been... meh.

I don't trust Liu with characters I like.

I really beg to differ on the point about it being an average book. The most recent issue, with the wedding gimmick, is possibly one of the least interesting issues of an X-title I've ever read. I don't give a damn about Northstar or his (now) bitch of a husband and I hate Marvel shoving this sort of thing in the reader's faces, especially when it's so poorly executed. Having Warbird as the bigot is stupid and unnecessary as well as being entirely anti-climatic.

I'm sure a Shi'ar mutant would have no problem with marriage between two members of the same species. Considering the Shi'ar breed between themselves all and other species all of the the time. That point was almost as stupid as the Havok/Puck conversation.

#29 Posted by ReVamp (23014 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine: She wasn't a bigot, she didn't attend the wedding because she didn't believe in the ceremony itself.

And really, I'm not measuring by last issue. It was nearly editor demands for sure, really I'm not going to judge her writing on something that's related on Marvel's politics.

#30 Posted by John Valentine (16402 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@John Valentine: She wasn't a bigot, she didn't attend the wedding because she didn't believe in the ceremony itself.

And really, I'm not measuring by last issue. It was nearly editor demands for sure, really I'm not going to judge her writing on something that's related on Marvel's politics.

I must have misunderstood that scene, then. So, it was on human marriage in general, not just because it was between two dudes?

I can see how an event like this could be brushed off as editor demands, but I feel other writers would have done a much better job on the whole thing. For example, Peter David. Also, her entire run so far has pretty much focused on Northstar and Kyle, something I don't think can be fully pinned on the editors.

Why did she feel the need to include Jubilee and X-23 in the wedding? Having Dazzler there, for example, would have made much, much more sense. Why have Cece Reyes there? Have her and Northstar even met?

#31 Posted by KainScion (2993 posts) - - Show Bio

@xAnimosity: and i cant get into pointless threads, like this one

#32 Posted by ReVamp (23014 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

I must have misunderstood that scene, then. So, it was on human marriage in general, not just because it was between two dudes?

I can see how an event like this could be brushed off as editor demands, but I feel other writers would have done a much better job on the whole thing. For example, Peter David. Also, her entire run so far has pretty much focused on Northstar and Kyle, something I don't think can be fully pinned on the editors.

Why did she feel the need to include Jubilee and X-23 in the wedding? Having Dazzler there, for example, would have made much, much more sense. Why have Cece Reyes there? Have her and Northstar even met?

Well, she was talking about Vows. I wasn't paying much attention, so I'll confess its possible that I missed something on it being between two humans. However I was looking for it, so I don't think so.

C'mon son.

She's a fangirl, lol. Cecelia was on the team, so it makes sense.

#33 Posted by John Valentine (16402 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

She's a fangirl, lol. Cecelia was on the team, so it makes sense.

Was she on the team or just tapping Gambit? Another of her pet characters...

#34 Posted by ReVamp (23014 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

@ReVamp said:

She's a fangirl, lol. Cecelia was on the team, so it makes sense.

Was she on the team or just tapping Gambit? Another of her pet characters...

On the Team officially. Not in-comic, but confirmed as part of the cast.

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