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    So I'm making this thread as a follow up to the thread Roddy made! In this thread we take into consideration BOTH power and skill because both play a big role in making a telepath what they are. Rank them in order of who would win in a fight by virtue of power+skill

    The roster in no particular order:

    • Psylocke
    • Nathan Grey (X-Man) - Shaman level
    • Jean Grey
    • Emma Frost - before depowering
    • Rachel Grey/Summers
    • Charles Xavier
    • Stepford Cuckoos
    • Stryfe
    • Exodus
    • Shadow King
    • Cassandra Nova (scrotum on legs)
    • Cable without TO virus
    • Quentin Quire
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    oops double post

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    My vote is for X-man.

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    Lets try to get this down to a top 10

    1. Xavier- incredible power, incredible skill, one of the oldest and most experienced, has gone toe to toe with most people on list. Has most feats for his powers.
    2. Jean Grey- arguably the most powerful telepath in terms of usuable strength, very skilled, trained by Xavier.
    3. Emma Frost- Very Powerful, arguably the most skilled, most versatile telepath, highly creative, has beaten more powerful telepaths.
    4. Exodus- Extremely Powerful, very experienced.
    5. Rachel Grey- Incredible power, skilled, longest range from a telepath, trained and tutored by Xavier/Emma, Xavier's experience downloaded.
    6. Nate Grey- Ridiculous levels of power, very little skill, very poor control.
    7.Stryfe- Very Powerful, skilled, very manipulative, very intelligent, very little showings
    8. Stepford Cuckoo's- Very Powerful, skilled, Psychic Hivemind, trained by Emma Frost, have accessed the minds of more powerful telepaths, can be overwhelmed.
    9. Psylocke- Skilled, Powerful, very experienced and very resourceful
    10. Cassandra Nova- Ridiculously Powerful, very skilled, purely psychic entity, very vulnerable. Has lost too far weaker psychics.

    Exclusions- Sinister is hard to rank since idk if we've seen him actually battle psychically. Cable doesn't have much experience and his powers burn out frequently. Honeslty i can't see Quire beating any of these people on the list because of his own arrogance. and Shadowking is too erratic in his depictions. Monet just isnt powerful or experienced enough to make the list.

    Reasoning- Xavier trained Jean and has pretty much beaten everyone, if he had too he could beat Jean(without phoenix), Jean is just far too powerful for Emma to beat, however Exodus is too arrogant to get the job done right with Emma. Rachel was able to essentially eliminate half of Exodus' arsenal in their confrontation...but it was only half. Nate Grey is probably strongest on the list, but Rachel is extremely strong as well...and actually knows how to use her powers. Stryfe is very powerful and smart, but what do we really know about his abilities...and most of the psychics have gotten a lot stronger post 90's while he didn't seem to grow much in his appearances since then. The Cuckoo's are just too unique for most psychics and have never really been outclassed by anyone except Emma (not counting raw power), Psylocke is definetly a powerful just not in the same class as those above her, and not skilled enough to beat alot of them, though she'd give them a run for their money. Cassandra Nova is probably right up there with Nate Grey in terms of power but has lost very badly in all of her confrontations usually do to her need for a body, if the psychic sees her coming they can probably hold their own.

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    Ain't Legion should be in this thread?

    @squares said:

    My vote is for X-man.

    he sucks

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    @4u2nv said:

    Ain't Legion should be in this thread?

    @squares said:

    My vote is for X-man.

    he sucks

    How so?

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    @squares said:

    @4u2nv said:

    Ain't Legion should be in this thread?

    @squares said:

    My vote is for X-man.

    he sucks

    How so?

    He lost to Norman Osborn.

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    @erik: A lot of people lost to Norman Osborn.

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    @squares said:

    @erik: A lot of people lost to Norman Osborn.

    Not in a psychic battle... against a guy that doesn't have psychic powers.

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    @martinceld:

    my vote

    1. x-man (before depowered)
    2. prof xavier

    @erik said:

    @squares said:

    @4u2nv said:

    Ain't Legion should be in this thread?

    @squares said:

    My vote is for X-man.

    he sucks

    How so?

    He lost to Norman Osborn.

    you must be joking.. just because of a plot needing act, you think he sucks?! -_-

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    @erik: How does a non-psychic battle determine how good a telepath Nate is?

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    @squares said:

    @4u2nv said:

    Ain't Legion should be in this thread?

    @squares said:

    My vote is for X-man.

    he sucks

    How so?

    Caus I say so.

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    @ssj_god said:

    you must be joking.. just because of a plot needing act, you think he sucks?! -_-

    You make a post that looks like this and you think I am the one with an opinion that doesn't make sense? What has Nate done since his resurrection that even put him in the top 10?

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    @4u2nv said:

    Caus I say so.

    Pardon me if I don't take your opinion very seriously.

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    @squares said:

    @erik: How does a non-psychic battle determine how good a telepath Nate is?

    It wasn't a non-psychic battle. It was a mental battle. That is a psychic battle.

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    @erik: But you just said it wasn't a psychic battle...

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    @squares said:

    @erik: But you just said it wasn't a psychic battle...

    No, I said Norman doesn't have psychic powers.

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    @erik said:

    @squares said:

    @erik: But you just said it wasn't a psychic battle...

    No, I said Norman doesn't have psychic powers.

    No, you said this:

    @erik said:
    @squares said:

    @erik: A lot of people lost to Norman Osborn.

    Not in a psychic battle... against a guy that doesn't have psychic powers.

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    well professor x lost to stairs...LOL i never get tired of these scans

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    @squares said:
    @erik said:

    @squares said:

    @erik: But you just said it wasn't a psychic battle...

    No, I said Norman doesn't have psychic powers.

    No, you said this:

    @erik said:
    @squares said:

    @erik: A lot of people lost to Norman Osborn.

    Not in a psychic battle... against a guy that doesn't have psychic powers.

    Yeah. You said a lot of people lost to Norman Osborn. I followed up by replying that they didn't lose in a psychic battle against the guy that doesn't have psychic powers.

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    @squares said:

    @4u2nv said:

    Caus I say so.

    Pardon me if I don't take your opinion very seriously.

    Speaking of "taking your opinion seriously." You just stated on other thread you don't believe x men can actually be good on protecting the city. I mean are you really seriously? If I recall this right, thats what they do. They protect human more then what they protect their own kind. I assume the city does have human occupying it. lol.

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    @4u2nv: Maybe try bringing this up in the pertinent thread?

    @erik: Oh. Sorry, I misunderstood.

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    @squares said:

    @4u2nv: Maybe try bringing this up in the pertinent thread?

    @erik: Oh. Sorry, I misunderstood.

    No worries. It happens to even the best of us. Not me though. Never me. :p

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    @squares said:

    @4u2nv: Maybe try bringing this up in the pertinent thread?

    @erik: Oh. Sorry, I misunderstood.

    I'm glad you didn't asked me a lot of very pertinent questions. It does, however, seem very pertinent for this thread.

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    @4u2nv: Fine, then. If you'd read my post in the other thread properly, you'd have noticed I said that I thought that members of the X-men wouldn't be very good at defending a city on their own.

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    @squares said:

    @4u2nv: Fine, then. If you'd read my post in the other thread properly, you'd have noticed I said that I thought that members of the X-men wouldn't be very good at defending a city on their own.

    :( why

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    @erik said:

    He lost to Norman Osborn.

    Ridiculous PIS don't you think?

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    I think the top 5 should be:

    Charles

    Jean

    Emma

    Quentin

    Rachel

    Honourable mentions: Psylocke, Stepford Cuckoos and Exodus...

    The reason there is no top 10 because I think the other telepaths just have loads of power, but not the skill as well which is what the thread creator is asking...

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    I think the top 5 should be:

    Charles

    Jean

    Emma

    Quentin

    Rachel

    Honourable mentions: Psylocke, Stepford Cuckoos and Exodus...

    The reason there is no top 10 because I think the other telepaths just have loads of power, but not the skill as well which is what the thread creator is asking...

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    @awesomeperson: well im asking for overall, skill+power who would win. So like even if person A is more skilled than B but B has a whole bunch of power B can still win. I think nate grey should be somewhere up there tbh he may not be too skilled but his power is great enough to overcome the lack of skill

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    I though Charles Xavier can protect a city on his own. Ain't he powerful enough to do so? He can avoid many stuff.

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    @psy_chrometer: not really relevant to this thread >.<

    My suggestion was that he's so powerful that he can protect the american people. I know he can.

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    let's quantify in numbers

    Jean

    power=100

    skill=95

    Prof x

    power 95

    skill=95

    Rachel

    power=99 or 100

    skill=95 - im sure by now she's a 95 after training with xavier and emma and downloading prof x' telepathic skills

    Emma

    Power=85

    skill=95

    Exodus

    Power =98

    Skill=95

    I don't think anyone should get a perfect score in skills because each telepath has its own specialty and secret technique that others can't do

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    @darthphoenix: hmm certainly an interesting way of putting things into perspective by quantifying them!

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    let's quantify in numbers

    Jean

    power=100

    skill=95

    Prof x

    power 95

    skill=95

    Rachel

    power=99 or 100

    skill=95 - im sure by now she's a 95 after training with xavier and emma and downloading prof x' telepathic skills

    Emma

    Power=85

    skill=95

    Exodus

    Power =98

    Skill=95

    I don't think anyone should get a perfect score in skills because each telepath has its own specialty and secret technique that others can't do

    i'd argue Rachel is at about 90 for skill but otherwise yea this is about it

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    let's quantify in numbers

    Jean

    power=100

    skill=95

    Prof x

    power 95

    skill=95

    Rachel

    power=99 or 100

    skill=95 - im sure by now she's a 95 after training with xavier and emma and downloading prof x' telepathic skills

    Emma

    Power=85

    skill=95

    Exodus

    Power =98

    Skill=95

    I don't think anyone should get a perfect score in skills because each telepath has its own specialty and secret technique that others can't do

    actually if you're giving jean a 100 in power, wouldn't nate exceed 100 then? Im pretty sure his raw power is higher than hers

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    Nate is the psychic powerhouse, I'm about to read Ellis' Shaman incarnation then I'll elaborate. As for the skill, I'll give it to Xavier.

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    #40  Edited By Appzashok

    Prof X mindrapes.

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    I always thought Professor X was more powerful then Jean? Dayum, I must have missed something. I know If I weren't so lackadaisical, I could figure this out for myself.

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    #42  Edited By Koays

    @jay_alam: The Prof admitted back in the Phoenix saga(or Dark Phoenix..whatever) that Jean was one of the strongest minds he's seen.....

    Now if you wanna talk skill level....her track record is pretty poor up until New X-Men, but she seems to step up her game after then.

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    #43  Edited By marvelfan1992

    I think it would go like

    1. Jean/Xavier

    2. Nate Grey - I think his power is too overwhelming

    3. Exodus

    4. Emma

    5. Rachel

    6. Cassandra Nova

    7. Stryfe

    8. Psylocke/Cuckoos/Quire

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    1. Jean Grey Depends
    2. Nathan Grey (X-Man)
    3. Charles Xavier
    4. Shadow King
    5. Exodus
    6. Rachel Grey/Summers
    7. Cable without TO virus Not sure if Cable should be ahead of Stryfe or not.
    8. Stryfe
    9. Cassandra Nova (scrotum on legs)
    10. Emma Frost
    11. Stepford Cuckoos
    12. Quentin Quire
    13. Psylocke
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    I think it would go like

    1. Jean/Xavier

    2. Nate Grey - I think his power is too overwhelming

    3. Exodus

    4. Emma

    5. Rachel

    6. Cassandra Nova

    7. Stryfe

    8. Psylocke/Cuckoos/Quire

    I kinda agree with this list, although I don't know where x-man should be. I read his series but I don't recall any TP battles or impressive TP feats so Im pretty sure hes low in the skill department. Can't tell how much his immense power is gonna make up for it though

    1. Jean Grey Depends
    2. Nathan Grey (X-Man)
    3. Charles Xavier
    4. Shadow King
    5. Exodus
    6. Rachel Grey/Summers
    7. Cable without TO virus Not sure if Cable should be ahead of Stryfe or not.
    8. Stryfe
    9. Cassandra Nova (scrotum on legs)
    10. Emma Frost
    11. Stepford Cuckoos
    12. Quentin Quire
    13. Psylocke

    "Jean Grey Depends" - depends on?

    Hmm its weird to see emma so low down in the list but perhaps it is debatable whether Emma's skill can compensate enough for the big gap in power between her and those above her in your list.

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    @martinceld: Jean depends on whether the PF is helping.

    whether Emma's skill can compensate enough for the big gap in power between her and those above her in your list.

    That's my logic in her placement.

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    I've always felt Rachel should be top 3, right behind Xavier and Jean and about on par with Emma.

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    @jphu8414 said:

    I've always felt Rachel should be top 3, right behind Xavier and Jean and about on par with Emma.

    I tend to put her top 4, she's got the power and experience from Xavier but we just havn't seen anything from her yet that puts her ABOVE Emma. I mean Emma can fight Xavier for sure, but idk if Rachel can.

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    @koays 1st xavier, 2nd jean and 3rd emma. Marvel just wants emma to be powerful so she can be a TP jean grey replacement and a poor one at that. Emma beating xavier that one time because she cheated.

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    @hopesummersforthefuture: Maybe true but she's always been considerably strong, I mean compare her to Psylocke and it's not close. Plus Emma did what even Xavier and Jean didn't and that was make TP consistently useful in the field as her only offense.

    Plus even when she does beat Xavier they both say how he could just power out of it. But the thing is she's more skilled then strong, so she may not be able to restrain him but she can fight him pretty evenly for a time.

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