The Ultimate Universe sucks. I'd still give up on them

There's an Ultimate Spidey? I thought they killed him....

It's hard to screw up Peter Parker, you know, short of killing him.   OH YEAH, HE DID THAT.   BENDIS O_____O

@Illuminatus said:

@Jake Fury said:

Well, the X-Men franchise is the only thing more watered down than the Avengers in Marvel right now....

...What?

There are what, 8 X-Titles right now? Bendis can't ruin something that's already that tainted.

@Illuminatus:

There's a new one. His powers are slightly different.

Then how is he Spider-Man?

Ughhh seriously Marvel? Just when i thought some things were finally getting better.

Jesus Chrsit you people are a bunch of cry babies. I get these are characters you like but saying you are gonna go after him if he miss writes one of them is just laughably sad and just continues the stigma of us being manchildren complaining after everything.

@WildValentine said:

@The Dark Huntress said:

@WildValentine said:

for the love of everything holy in the X-verse, don't let him touch Uncanny X-Force.

Or X-Factor. Or Legacy. Or Uncanny (Emma's been through enough turmoil under Fraction)

I'm just starting to like Emma Frost, so you've piqued my interest? What runs did Fraction control?

Uncanny X-Men from issue #500 forward, up until Gillen took over was Fraction's reign.

For good Emma reading you want (in this order) New X-Men (by Morrison), Astonishing X-Men (Whedon's run) and New X-Men (Kyle/Yost run). Those are Emma's definitive appearances since coming into the fold of the X-Men and these are the writers who truly understood her.

Jesus Chrsit you people are a bunch of cry babies. I get these are characters you like but saying you are gonna go after him if he miss writes one of them is just laughably sad and just continues the stigma of us being manchildren complaining after everything.

Maybe the Avengers will be likable characters once Bendis leaves.

@Illuminatus:

Or "reboot" with another universe entirely. Have the transition be the current world learning about the other, and then just transition wholly to the other world for most of the runs and still keep 616 in a few books.

I don't know, I'm not one of those opposed to a complete reboot. I didn't like House of M and I don't like a lot of the storylines they did, or what they did to certain characters, and I think an entirely new universe of X-Men with a new history and new ways of doing things would be interesting, and keep everything fresh. But at the same time I don't want them to get rid of 616 entirely.

@Illuminatus:

Or "reboot" with another universe entirely. Have the transition be the current world learning about the other, and then just transition wholly to the other world for most of the runs and still keep 616 in a few books.

I don't know, I'm not one of those opposed to a complete reboot. I didn't like House of M and I don't like a lot of the storylines they did, or what they did to certain characters, and I think an entirely new universe of X-Men with a new history and new ways of doing things would be interesting, and keep everything fresh. But at the same time I don't want them to get rid of 616 entirely.

@MatKrenz said:

Jesus Chrsit you people are a bunch of cry babies. I get these are characters you like but saying you are gonna go after him if he miss writes one of them is just laughably sad and just continues the stigma of us being manchildren complaining after everything.

It's hyperbole for emphasis (a common method of complaint), and there's nothing wrong with being upset over someone possibly ruining something you love, when they have a history of ruining. Manchildren? I'm not even going to get into the whole "we're not all men" thing, however everyone everywhere complains abouteverything. It's an inherently human characteristic. Frankly I think complaining about complainers is worse...

@FadeToBlackBolt: As much as I love X-Men... yeah :( There have been some good stories, and there are still good characters, but I agree that Marvel needed a reboot far more than DC.

@Illuminatus:

There's a new one. His powers are slightly different.

Then how is he Spider-Man?

@X35 said:

But they only recently got Jason Aaron, Kieron Gillen and Chris Gage. ¬_¬

IKR? I wonder if this rumor will actually come to fruition. I wonder how Bendis is going to have 8-ish X titles out some on a bi-weekly basis and still write his precious Avengers?

@MatKrenz said:

Jesus Chrsit you people are a bunch of cry babies. I get these are characters you like but saying you are gonna go after him if he miss writes one of them is just laughably sad and just continues the stigma of us being manchildren complaining after everything.

I'm going to have it the worst since I don't read X-Men. If he kills everyone off, makes them gay/straight, reduces their powers to magical properties created by a time-traveling Dr Strange and somehow makes humans accept mutants after years of fake oppression in the superhero world, I'll have to hear it for hours on end from my emo friend. If Bendis could only use his reality warping abilities to retcon fans it would be most appreciated.

@FadeToBlackBolt: Comparing this situation to the holocaust reminds me of the time I dropped my ice cream after walking out of the store, which was arguably as bad as Pearl Harbor.

@X35 said:

But they only recently got Jason Aaron, Kieron Gillen and Chris Gage. ¬_¬

IKR? I wonder if this rumor will actually come to fruition. I wonder how Bendis is going to have 8-ish X titles out some on a bi-weekly basis and still write his precious Avengers?

To be honest...he is actually doing a pretty good job with UCSM

@FadeToBlackBolt: I forgot about that. Anyways I'll keep a level head til I know for sure which book(s) he is taking over. As long as it's not UXM, I'll be happy.

@Zhakaraz said:

To be honest...he is actually doing a pretty good job with UCSM

The thing with this (and the Ult Universe and Bendis in general) is that it's an original character. There's no pre-existing continuity or characterization for him to ruin. That is not the case with The Avengers and now, it seems, the X-Men.

They should have just let him use the Ultimate Universe as his playground and kicked him out of 616 altogether.

@Zhakaraz said:

To be honest...he is actually doing a pretty good job with UCSM

It's because that's not a team book. Bendis is admittedly pretty good with solo characters (i.e. Ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil), but he's a cancer to team books.

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

He's leaving Avengers. Besides, whether this is bogus or not, if enough people hate the guy then hopefully he'll read the message boards, become depressed, and kill himself.

Is it bad that I lol'd at this?

Meanwhile, on twitter:

Oh the Internet got hilarious while I was schooling . Just FYI wolverine and the xmen is my fave mainstream comic right now.

...I think he's mocking us.

Meanwhile, on twitter:

Oh the Internet got hilarious while I was schooling . Just FYI wolverine and the xmen is my fave mainstream comic right now.

...I think he's mocking us.

Sorry to all you X-Men fans

Maybe he will be better at it than he was at Avengers.

Eh, I'll wait and see how it goes before burning all the things.

@Illuminatus said:

@Jake Fury said:

Well, the X-Men franchise is the only thing more watered down than the Avengers in Marvel right now....

...What?

There are what, 8 X-Titles right now? Bendis can't ruin something that's already that tainted.

@hydrabob

@Illuminatus:

There's a new one. His powers are slightly different.

Then how is he Spider-Man?

@redleigh86

@Illuminatus:

I don't know, I'm not one of those opposed to a complete reboot. I didn't like House of M and I don't like a lot of the storylines they did, or what they did to certain characters, and I think an entirely new universe of X-Men with a new history and new ways of doing things would be interesting, and keep everything fresh. But at the same time I don't want them to get rid of 616 entirely.

@hydrabob said:

@Illuminatus:

There's a new one. His powers are slightly different.

Then how is he Spider-Man?

He still has spider powers just a different version and the UU is better than anything going on in the 616 right now (with the exception of Amazing Spider-Man and Journey in to the Mystery) 

I don't want Bendis X-Men. I haven't read the book in a while, a lot of that had to do with the fact that the New Avengers stuff interfered with the X-Men. In the X-men you've got the unique property of Mutants, and a lot of them. It's a school for people born that way and now there are practically none of them left because of House of M. Not only was it never explained beyond a magical spell, it makes no sense. I don't care what Bendis did with the Avengers, but it's made the X-men hard to read.

oh crap...don't tell me this includes wolverine and the x-men....

No.......

@BlackArmor said:

5 stages of grief. The Bendis takes over your favorite Marvel book version.

1. Denial: Oh god no, maybe.....maybe bleeding cool made a mistake, yeah, they must have gotten this wrong, there's no way this is happening UXM is Marvels best book no way they would change writers with that going on......right?

2. Anger: F*ck Marvel, they can all go to hell they can go to hell and they can die, If I ever run into someone working at Marvel, woo boy they better run as fast as Quick Silver or that sonnuva ***** is dead. Gonna burn all my Marvel books, gonna burn down the Marvel headquarters. F*ck Marvel

3. Bargaining: Marvel.....can you hear me? it's me BlackArmor, listen I know we don't get along but if you keep Bendis away from UXM, I promise I'll drop all....some of my DC books and by 10 of yours.

4. Depression: Gonna, kill myself, there's no good in the world, no point in living anymore......

5. Acceptance: You know what, this might not be so bad, and if it is maybe Bendis will get hit by a bus.....

Hahaha. Good post.

@John Valentine said:

@BlackArmor said:

5 stages of grief. The Bendis takes over your favorite Marvel book version.

1. Denial: Oh god no, maybe.....maybe bleeding cool made a mistake, yeah, they must have gotten this wrong, there's no way this is happening UXM is Marvels best book no way they would change writers with that going on......right?

2. Anger: F*ck Marvel, they can all go to hell they can go to hell and they can die, If I ever run into someone working at Marvel, woo boy they better run as fast as Quick Silver or that sonnuva ***** is dead. Gonna burn all my Marvel books, gonna burn down the Marvel headquarters. F*ck Marvel

3. Bargaining: Marvel.....can you hear me? it's me BlackArmor, listen I know we don't get along but if you keep Bendis away from UXM, I promise I'll drop all....some of my DC books and by 10 of yours.

4. Depression: Gonna, kill myself, there's no good in the world, no point in living anymore......

5. Acceptance: You know what, this might not be so bad, and if it is maybe Bendis will get hit by a bus.....

Hahaha. Good post.

LOL. This is awesome.

F*cking terrible news. Please Bendis, at least let Uncanny X-Force alone!

Has this been confirmed, or is it just a rumor?

No No please God no For the love of the X-verse and humanity No Plz let this be a bad dream(or wrong info) plz keep him at the ultimate universe

@Billy Batson said:

Nerd rage!
BB

Hell hath no higher fury.

Not gonna lie...I nearly cried.

in the same way that he writes Avengers and New Avengers now."

And next: Fraction starts writing the avengers after Bendis ;D
BB

@War Killer said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

in the same way that he writes Avengers and New Avengers now."

Well the X-Men are going to suck for the next 10 years...

Untrue. What's going to happen is that the X-Men are going to have a new and different "shine", which some people will like and moderate/mediocre writing. Eventually, after two or so years, its going to become the worst thing ever and it will take Marvel a decade to put the man writing something else.

Ehh Marvel why have you have screwed over us X-Fans yet again!! V_V

I just don't get it, can't Marvel see that people DON'T like Bendis ?
 
P.S I'm calling it now, either she's going to leave the X-Men or she's just plain dead given the DASDSADASGFSGFDGDFGD that happened in Avengers #21. (If the latter happens, well, Bendis will most certainly be pulled out of the business, for a very long while...)

@War Killer said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

in the same way that he writes Avengers and New Avengers now."

Well the X-Men are going to suck for the next 10 years...

Untrue. What's going to happen is that the X-Men are going to have a new and different "shine", which some people will like and moderate/mediocre writing. Eventually, after two or so years, its going to become the worst thing ever and it will take Marvel a decade to put the man writing something else.

@AgeofHurricane said:

I just don't get it, can't Marvel see that people DON'T like Bendis ?

And Greg Land >.>

@War Killer said:

@ReVamp said:

@War Killer said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

in the same way that he writes Avengers and New Avengers now."

Well the X-Men are going to suck for the next 10 years...

Untrue. What's going to happen is that the X-Men are going to have a new and different "shine", which some people will like and moderate/mediocre writing. Eventually, after two or so years, its going to become the worst thing ever and it will take Marvel a decade to put the man writing something else.

Okay, so the X-Men are going to be awesome for the first...what, 2 years? And THEN the X-Men will suck for the next 8 years... :P Either way, after everything he's done with the Avengers I can understand why people are freaking out about it.

Yes. Though you are giving him a bit too much credit when you say "awesome" but that's the sentiment I was trying to convey.

And I'm sorry, but current Avengers /New Avengers is absolutely horrible.

@War Killer said:

@Billy Batson said:

And next: Fraction starts writing the avengers after Bendis ;D
BB

To be honest, I actually like Fraction's writing and would rather have him on the Avengers than Bendis.

BB

@War Killer said:

@ReVamp said:

@War Killer said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

in the same way that he writes Avengers and New Avengers now."

Well the X-Men are going to suck for the next 10 years...

Untrue. What's going to happen is that the X-Men are going to have a new and different "shine", which some people will like and moderate/mediocre writing. Eventually, after two or so years, its going to become the worst thing ever and it will take Marvel a decade to put the man writing something else.

Okay, so the X-Men are going to be awesome for the first...what, 2 years? And THEN the X-Men will suck for the next 8 years... :P Either way, after everything he's done with the Avengers I can understand why people are freaking out about it.

Yes. Though you are giving him a bit too much credit when you say "awesome" but that's the sentiment I was trying to convey.

And I'm sorry, but current Avengers /New Avengers is absolutely horrible.