The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.
@oldnightcrawler: Are you mad that emma frost wasnt in axis? Also she was in original sin so you shouldnt be that mad.
It really doesn't bother me.
Just because I like a character doesn't mean I think they need to be a big part in every story, and without her telepathy, I can see why she's not one of the major players at the moment. Generally Emma's only been in big Avengers crossovers as leader or co-leader of the X-men, but she hasn't really been in that role for a while, and that's okay too.
I'm just as happy to see characters who don't always have roles in these things getting in on the action. I don't think Nightcrawler's been in a crossover with the Avengers since 1985.
A friend of mine, after have read the title of this topic, said: «No, I prefer that she remain naked.»
@alias99 Seriously, I hate the dresses which wear almost all superheroines: a good story don't need boobs to sell and I don't need the comics to see boobs. But Emma have to wear like an high class prostitute (very high class), because she had always used her body like a weapon, a weapon to seduce, to dominate, to manipulate the men.
A friend of mine, after have read the title of this topic, said: «No, I prefer that she remain naked.»
@alias99 Seriously, I hate the dresses which wear almost all superheroines: a good story don't need boobs to sell and I don't need the comics to see boobs. But Emma have to wear an high class prostitute (very high class), because she had always used her body like a weapon, a weapon to seduce, to dominate, to manipulate the men.
Well said but her last costume was awesome her new one shows to much skin. she can still make it sexy without showing to much skin.
I've never grown fond of Emma as an X-Man. I will always remember as the White Queen from the Hellfire Club. Not much into staying covered back then too.
Seriously. Emma Frost is one of the most complex and interesting characters in the Marvel Universe (IMHO). Can they PLEASE stop drawing her as a total tramp all the time???
I pretty much agree.
On the one hand, I think it has more to do with how artists draw her posing than what she's actually wearing. Yes, it's in her character to exploit those around her with her sexuality, but that doesn't mean she needs to be drawn posing like a pinup (which is, essentially, what she becomes when drawn as such). Some artists seem to just take the idea that she uses her sexuality as an excuse to make her a cheesecake, and to me it just shows how little they understand the character; she's a vamp, not a bimbo.
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examples of costumes that show Emma weaponizing her sexuality without objectifying her characterwhy not go with something more like this for an outlaw mutant living in the Canadian tunda? Is this really not sexy enough for an outlaw superhero?
Artists who seem to get this right seem to understand this distinction. Emma started wearing pants in the 90's, pretty much as soon as she started distancing herself from theHellfire Club and teaching children again. She was still drawn to be an overtly sexual character in her style of dress, but not so much with the posing and running around in her underwear.
I always felt that John Cassaday understood the distinction in the way he designed Emma's costume for Astonishing X-Men: firstly, she always had pants on; and sure, she was wearing a cabaret style top, but she was usually mostly covered in a cape. Despite Kitty making fun of her in the first issue, her costume in that series actually covered her up more than most of Storm or Psylocke's costumes. You knew she had a sexy outfit under there, but you rarely ever actually saw it, and usually only if she was in a fight, not being sexy.
Chris Bachalo's current costume for her seems especially puzzling to me since he seems like one of the first artists to really illustrate the distinction that lead to the contemporary Emma character. It's not even that I think he really objectifies the character in the way he draws her (and i do like her new coat), but returning her to booty shorts and a shirt that's perpetually open still just seems out of place for the character at this point.
Women don't wear some of the s--t they put Emma in nor do they want to, not only because it's like waaaay to exposed even in just the climate sense, but because it looks tacky and it's just bad designing. If you think her characterization matches most of her outfits, you are doing some wishful thinking. She's an upper-echelon, stylish, witty, educated, and sexually confident woman, she should look like Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct not fricken FARAH ABRAHAM at some dimestore, bar event for her crappy DVDs. Sure, superheroes don't totally dress the way we do but Emma, sadly, has some almost criminally stupid costumes. Similar to in the way she's sometimes written as just being mean as opposed to witty, she's also shown to be kind of an exhibitionist wherein actuality she would never need that kind of validation.
I'm not going to say these artists who illustrate her are misogynists or chauvinists, I think sometimes people just don't get it and need to be told. No girl with lots of self-esteem would feel the need to sexualize herself in every which way, essentially saying "Hey Colossus, can you see? I'm hot. Oh! Hey, Nightcrawler! Worth breaking abstinence for, right? Magneto, look a little lower". A truly confident woman who is assured in her sexuality understands the nuances of subtlety and already feels sexy enough on the inside so that she doesn't need to spew out visual spoilers of what she's got rocking underneath a flattering frock or well-cut suit.
Women don't wear some of the s--t they put Emma in nor do they want to, not only because it's like waaaay to exposed even in just the climate sense, but because it looks tacky and it's just bad designing. If you think her characterization matches most of her outfits, you are doing some wishful thinking. She's an upper-echelon, stylish, witty, educated, and sexually confident woman, she should look like Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct not fricken FARAH ABRAHAM at some dimestore, bar event for her crappy DVDs. Sure, superheroes don't totally dress the way we do but Emma, sadly, has some almost criminally stupid costumes. Similar to in the way she's sometimes written as just being mean as opposed to witty, she's also shown to be kind of an exhibitionist wherein actuality she would never need that kind of validation.
I'm not going to say these artists who illustrate her are misogynists or chauvinists, I think sometimes people just don't get it and need to be told. No girl with lots of self-esteem would feel the need to sexualize herself in every which way, essentially saying "Hey Colossus, can you see? I'm hot. Oh! Hey, Nightcrawler! Worth breaking abstinence for, right? Magneto, look a little lower". A truly confident woman who is assured in her sexuality understands the nuances of subtlety and already feels sexy enough on the inside so that she doesn't need to spew out visual spoilers of what she's got rocking underneath a flattering frock or well-cut suit.
Emma wear what ever the artists and writers want her to look. She looks great and I think she should continue to dress as a White Queen she is. I never had a problem with her look... so I don't see why this would bother anyone.
And why this is a problem? Emma Frost look good in every way lol. I have no problem with her look. Is what make her characterization interesting. Emma been hated by many, but is ok because this can proof that Emma is the S^7* lol.
On Marvel Heroes Game, it said she wores this costume because Cyclops´s revolution. She is now depower and she needs to have costume that protect her even more. For Example i dont have trouble with Magik´s costume because she is quite powerful and doesn´t much protection. But cover costumes can be sexy like Rogue or even Black Canary.
I think they are some scenario, sure Emma Frost seems to be wearing a wierd "powersuit" costume but we dont know what is made (is that normal clothes or powersuit and what is made off) because she usually have huge clevage on her clothes she exposses a lot her vital organs and would be lethal since she doesnt have anything to protect (her lungs, her hearth, her head and her abdomen aerea) aside her diamond skin. But she actually wore worst costume like "X" costume and her early costume
:) but then again why doesnt anyone complain about magik inher underwear whe she is only what 16??????
with Magik it would make sense if she just wore a loin cloth or something, since she's spent more of her life around demons than people. That she wears booty shorts is maybe the only thing she does that other teenage girls do.
It just doesn't feel like that logic applies to Emma.
I just want her to wear pants ; _ ; Other than that, I really don't care what she's wearing.
:) but then again why doesnt anyone complain about magik inher underwear whe she is only what 16??????
Because it's a thread about Emma Frost. Trust me, if it were an open thread about the current Uncanny team, I'd be blasting her costume too (also the fact that there are three blond white girls on his team, but that's a topic for another thread.).
The thing is right or wrong Emma has for as long as she has been in comics been depicted as a sexy woman in revealing clothing. I do think sometimes creative teams do use this as a crutch rather than put her in somewhat sensible clothing. Female comic book characters can be great and do not have to rely on sexy clothing to sell their image. Emma is an interesting character and could continue with or without the stripper wardrobe if the PTB decided to go that way.
The thing is right or wrong Emma has for as long as she has been in comics been depicted as a sexy woman in revealing clothing. I do think sometimes creative teams do use this as a crutch rather than put her in somewhat sensible clothing. Female comic book characters can be great and do not have to rely on sexy clothing to sell their image.Emma is an interesting character and could continue with or without the stripper wardrobe if the PTB decided to go that way.
well said but i guess emma i wearing more clothes then Angela or Tigress
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