all new x-men ,how ?

Posted by walteion (91 posts) - - Show Bio

so if the 5 original memebers of the x-men r coming to the future (yay for marvel girl!) how will they affect they the main timeline ? the time they will travel to the future is set after isuue #20 of uncanny x-men ,i gess (not sure though) but if they came to the future ,there will be no x-men in the past wich will affect the future of the x-men too. jean will never turn to phoenix ,angel won't turn into archangel & best won't be a big blue monster. i don't understand how will they explain that. will the x-men just come temprarily & then go back to the past ? will they be from anthor universe or something ? but if they r going to go back to the past ,why did they say that jean grey (as marvel girl) is coming back to the marvel universe if it's only temprarily ? and why did they say "all new x-men" ? it should've been "all old x-men". i'm really confused. somebody please explain ? or should we wait for the comics ?

i just hope jean grey stays for a while. i really missed her . and i'm happy she is for the first time not involved with the whole phoenix force thing.

#1 Posted by YoungJustice (6841 posts) - - Show Bio

This should go into the X-Men form. Luckily I know a mod that is online

#2 Posted by danhimself (22539 posts) - - Show Bio

it might not effect the main timeline at all...with Marvel's floating timeline they could stay in the present for years and it will only be a few months for them....plus they'll probably have they're memories erased before they go back

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#3 Posted by walteion (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself said:

it might not effect the main timeline at all...with Marvel's floating timeline they could stay in the present for years and it will only be a few months for them....plus they'll probably have they're memories erased before they go back

i really love jean grey as the original marvel girl ,with her costum ,short red hair & the pink power signutre. i was really happy to know that she will come back & i wanted her to stay with the x-men & i wanted them to devolep her from a teenaged girl into a grown woman . but if she will evantually go back to the past ,why bother to devolep her ? mabye the other 4 memebers will go back to the past but jean will decide to stay bacuse she know what will happen to her if she went back. but they better like creat anthor version of jean & send her back to the past & then we will know that the real jean wasn't the real jean ! instead it was a body similer to jean's with jean's,powers & momries created by beast & then sent to the past with the other mind-earesed x-men. am i making any sense ?

#4 Posted by Osian2 (455 posts) - - Show Bio

@walteion said:

@danhimself said:

it might not effect the main timeline at all...with Marvel's floating timeline they could stay in the present for years and it will only be a few months for them....plus they'll probably have they're memories erased before they go back

i really love jean grey as the original marvel girl ,with her costum ,short red hair & the pink power signutre. i was really happy to know that she will come back & i wanted her to stay with the x-men & i wanted them to devolep her from a teenaged girl into a grown woman . but if she will evantually go back to the past ,why bother to devolep her ? mabye the other 4 memebers will go back to the past but jean will decide to stay bacuse she know what will happen to her if she went back. but they better like creat anthor version of jean & send her back to the past & then we will know that the real jean wasn't the real jean ! instead it was a body similer to jean's with jean's,powers & momries created by beast & then sent to the past with the other mind-earesed x-men. am i making any sense ?

Bendis said that the O5 will be around for the long haul but after the inital drama of "OMG JEAN IS BACK" and "OH NOES THE FUTURE IS TERRIBLE" I don't see any real stories worth telling. The worst part is that they don't just randomly appear, Beast brings them to the future. As if I don't hate the guy enough already he has to go and screw around with time travel.

#5 Posted by danhimself (22539 posts) - - Show Bio

@walteion said:

@danhimself said:

it might not effect the main timeline at all...with Marvel's floating timeline they could stay in the present for years and it will only be a few months for them....plus they'll probably have they're memories erased before they go back

i really love jean grey as the original marvel girl ,with her costum ,short red hair & the pink power signutre. i was really happy to know that she will come back & i wanted her to stay with the x-men & i wanted them to devolep her from a teenaged girl into a grown woman . but if she will evantually go back to the past ,why bother to devolep her ? mabye the other 4 memebers will go back to the past but jean will decide to stay bacuse she know what will happen to her if she went back. but they better like creat anthor version of jean & send her back to the past & then we will know that the real jean wasn't the real jean ! instead it was a body similer to jean's with jean's,powers & momries created by beast & then sent to the past with the other mind-earesed x-men. am i making any sense ?

coming to the future might not have long term effects on them but it will have long term effects on the other characters....imagine how you'd feel if your past self came to the present and was disappointed in what you've become...that's my guess at least

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#6 Posted by One_Eye (783 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself said:

@walteion said:

@danhimself said:

it might not effect the main timeline at all...with Marvel's floating timeline they could stay in the present for years and it will only be a few months for them....plus they'll probably have they're memories erased before they go back

i really love jean grey as the original marvel girl ,with her costum ,short red hair & the pink power signutre. i was really happy to know that she will come back & i wanted her to stay with the x-men & i wanted them to devolep her from a teenaged girl into a grown woman . but if she will evantually go back to the past ,why bother to devolep her ? mabye the other 4 memebers will go back to the past but jean will decide to stay bacuse she know what will happen to her if she went back. but they better like creat anthor version of jean & send her back to the past & then we will know that the real jean wasn't the real jean ! instead it was a body similer to jean's with jean's,powers & momries created by beast & then sent to the past with the other mind-earesed x-men. am i making any sense ?

coming to the future might not have long term effects on them but it will have long term effects on the other characters....imagine how you'd feel if your past self came to the present and was disappointed in what you've become...that's my guess at least

Sounds like it's going to a case of futureshock for the O5 while the future incarnations are going to be force to do some self-evaluating.

#7 Posted by lorex (954 posts) - - Show Bio

I have said before that this seems like a good idea for a mini or even a maxi series but for the long term it is unworkable because they have to go back and unless they want the entire Marvel Universe to change they will have to forget what they saw in the future. Also now that Wolverine will be the likely leader of the X-Men is he going to let these five loose or try to protect them. The whole reason for the Schism was the treatment of the younger mutants as soldiers when they should be children, which was a invented out of thin air cause Wolverine nevered mentioned that attitude before the Schism. If he does not try to keep them out of trouble then the whole Schism was meaningless and a fraud, it was a hugh plot contrivance to begin with. 

As for the the fives finding out about their future selves, there will definitely be several shocking revelations. Scott was more unsure of himself and will probable be surprised at the Alpha male he turned into, let alone the Phoenix stuff. I do not know if Jean will be more shocked that her future self is dead, that she married Scott, that she has several alternate reality children running around, all older than her, or tha she wasalso a host for the Phoenix and did far worse things than Cyclops. Henry will no doubt be surprised at his physical transformation but upon reflection be impressed at his achievements, not to mention that he has a super hot girlfriend. Warren is probable in for a rough time learning what has happened to him and Bobby the goofball might be surprised that he has changed the least among them.

#8 Posted by danhimself (22539 posts) - - Show Bio

@One_Eye said:

@danhimself said:

@walteion said:

@danhimself said:

it might not effect the main timeline at all...with Marvel's floating timeline they could stay in the present for years and it will only be a few months for them....plus they'll probably have they're memories erased before they go back

i really love jean grey as the original marvel girl ,with her costum ,short red hair & the pink power signutre. i was really happy to know that she will come back & i wanted her to stay with the x-men & i wanted them to devolep her from a teenaged girl into a grown woman . but if she will evantually go back to the past ,why bother to devolep her ? mabye the other 4 memebers will go back to the past but jean will decide to stay bacuse she know what will happen to her if she went back. but they better like creat anthor version of jean & send her back to the past & then we will know that the real jean wasn't the real jean ! instead it was a body similer to jean's with jean's,powers & momries created by beast & then sent to the past with the other mind-earesed x-men. am i making any sense ?

coming to the future might not have long term effects on them but it will have long term effects on the other characters....imagine how you'd feel if your past self came to the present and was disappointed in what you've become...that's my guess at least

Sounds like it's going to a case of futureshock for the O5 while the future incarnations are going to be force to do some self-evaluating.

exactly....if it's done well then it could make for some really good character interactions and development....hopefully Bendis brings the same level of writing to this as he does with Ultimate Spider-man and the Spider-men crossover

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#9 Posted by God_Spawn (37878 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: At least Bendis is writing the teen versions of the 05. He is pretty good at writing the younger characters like Ultimate Spider-Man and he seems genuinely excited for the series and some of his recent Avengers issues and AvX 11 (compared to the other issues) have been generally solid. If he keeps up the momentum he could do some good things with the series IMO.

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#10 Posted by danhimself (22539 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: I have high hopes...Stuart Immonen is doing the art and it looks great so hopefully Bendis brings his A game because with it's premise it could turn into a very good series

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#11 Posted by God_Spawn (37878 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: Agreed. And it's not like the X-Men can go much more downhill than they are already are.

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#12 Posted by HammerTron (610 posts) - - Show Bio

It seems interesting, but also seems like something that will be shortlived.

#13 Posted by God_Spawn (37878 posts) - - Show Bio

@HammerTron said:

It seems interesting, but also seems like something that will be shortlived.

Bendis has made it clear it won't be.

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#14 Posted by walteion (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@HammerTron said:

It seems interesting, but also seems like something that will be shortlived.

Bendis has made it clear it won't be.

so they will stay in the future like forever ? it would only make sense if they were from anthor universe or doublecated.

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