What Will Replace Uncanny X-Men?

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Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

The unfortunate truth is that after 36 years of publication, whether we like it or not, Uncanny X-Men is coming to an end.

Marvel, Relaunch-Holics

The X-Men Were Spared The Heroes Reborn

Unlike the majority of other big titles from Marvel, Uncanny X-Men hasn't been cancelled, rebooted and renumbered. At least, not yet. Marvel began a trend for relaunching & renumbering way back in 1996. Back then, the Avengers, Fantastic Four, Captain America & Iron Man were all victims of Heroes Reborn. Subsequently all titles were cancelled & relaunched yet again to "Return" the heroes back in the mainstream Marvel Universe. As the years went on, those relaunched titles were slowly renumbered as if they had never been cancelled. In the last year, many of those titles are began to fall once again.

The various Avengers titles were all cancelled at the end of Siege and relaunched from issue #1. Captain America has been relaunched from issue #1. The name "Man Without Fear" has been passed to the Black Panther, enabling Daredevil to be relaunched from issue #1. Following the death of the Human Torch, the Fantastic Four was cancelled and although it hasn't relaunched, it has been replaced by a new title called "FF" (the "Future Foundation" that rather unimaginatively shares the initials of the "Fantastic Four"). My money is on Amazing Spider-Man being the next target.

Although they haven't taken the axe to all their titles and relaunched a massive company-wide "reboot", Marvel established a precedent of starting from scrap over 15 years ago. Therefore it makes me wonder why the X-Men have been immune to this relaunching addition of Marvel's for so long?

What Are The X-Options?

So what will replace Uncanny X-Men?

Which Title Will Be The X-Men's New Flagship?

It's pretty clear that something will replace it. Aside from the gradual relaunches that Marvel has been sneaking out lately, Uncanny X-Men is the "flagship" title of a whole franchise. One of, if not the largest comic book franchises to have been seen in the last 30 years! Therefore I remain confident that something certainly will fill the big, empty, clown-sized shoes left by Uncanny X-Men. So far we have very little information about what will happen to the rest of the X-Titles, but there is no doubt that all the other titles are peripheral to Uncanny X-Men. Aside from a period of 3 years, Uncanny X-Men has been the parent title of the whole X-Men franchise. It was only when the franchise was placed in the hands of Grant Morrison, that the main core focus of the X-Men shifted to New X-Men. With one notable exception, all the other titles are currently effected by events that happen in Uncanny X-Men; including (but not exclusive to) the New Mutants, Uncanny X-Force, X-Men, X-Men: Legacy & Astonishing X-Men.

Right now, we don't have a lot of information to go on. Due to promotional material from a few months ago, we do know that this is meant to be "MMXI: The Year Of The Mutant". Does this mean that all the other main titles are going to be cancelled, remodelled & relaunched like the Avengers titles were during the Heroic Age? Is it possible that one of the other titles is going to step up to fulfill the role of "flagship title", as New X-Men did in 2001? Will a brand spanking new title launch akin to FF? If so... what will it be called?

Uncanny Adjectives?

How Do You Prefer Your X-Men? Adjectiveless, Astonishing, Legacy, New, X-Treme... Or Uncanny?

Despite calling themselves the "House of Ideas", Marvel is pretty unimaginative when it comes to naming new titles. The X-Men are no exception. For instance, there has been two separate titles called "New X-Men" (Grant Morrison's New X-Men & the "Academy X" New X-Men). Two different "X-Men Forever" (a 2001 in-continuity mini series called X-Men Forever & Chris Claremont's re-imagined alternate reality X-Men Forever), in fact there's three if you count X-Men Forever 2. Two Dark X-Men volumes came in quick succession due to the Dark Reign! Not to mention the three Astonishing X-Men titles (the first Astonishing X-Men being in the Age of Apocalypse, followed by a three-issue mini series called Astonishing X-Men in 1999 & of course the current ongoing title created by Joss Whedon, Astonishing X-Men). Strangely there hasn't been another X-Treme X-Men, but that might only be a matter of time...

It would almost seem that the "House Of Ideas" have grown a little too used to recycling ideas, especially when it comes to the X-Men. It's possible that we could have a whole new title launching in Uncanny X-Men's place (Strange X-Men? Mysterious X-Men? Secret X-Men? Fantastic X-Men? Mighty X-Men?), or we could see another "Amazing X-Men" replace Uncanny X-Men, instead.

Or perhaps they'll simply repackage the whole title and relaunch it as "Uncanny X-Men #1". After all, the're never been an Uncanny X-Men #1 as the very first issue way back in 1963 was simply called "X-Men".

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#1 Posted by MrUnknown (1700 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is partly due to the events of Schism, then I think Uncanny X-men will split into two new titles which could be a good thing if it makes the titles more focused.

#2 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7816 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don’t like this unnecessary number changing and it’s becoming all the more common place which is getting tiresome. I really had no idea that Uncanny hadn’t fallen fowl to this kind of thing before especially in the 90’s, makes this event all the sadder.

#3 Posted by Amegashita (3601 posts) - - Show Bio

  My guess, "X-Men, We Need More of Your Money Now"

#4 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

@MrUnknown: Not a bad idea, I can picture that happening... But then, do we really need five X-Men titles?

And what would you call them both?

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#5 Posted by Baddamdog (2223 posts) - - Show Bio

I really really hope that Schism will divide the team and re-create.... 
THE BLUE AND GOLD TEAMS SAFJSDFKBANFJNASVKAFKJHBSFVALKJVSJNFS. 
 
 
Jus sayin.

#6 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

Well done piece, XK.

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#7 Posted by fesak (7053 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty 
 Amazing Spider-Man already was rebooted (and later renumbered) once. #441 was the last issue before Byrnes reboot.
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#8 Posted by ComicMan24 (147090 posts) - - Show Bio

Is there any title out there now simply called "X-Men"?

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#9 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicMan24 said:

Is there any title out there now simply called "X-Men"?

Yes. That's the one people refer to when they say "Adjectiveless"

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#10 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

Hopefully they'll actually have a defined roster for the book that actually comes to take its place.

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#11 Posted by ComicMan24 (147090 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress: I see.
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#12 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

@fesak: Ack of course, I'd forgotten the double consecutive numbers when they renumbered it... I'm still convinced they'll do it to Spidey again.

@Omega Ray Jay: No, I can't say I like it either. It also seems like bad timing to me, to cancel it when riding on a high from the new movie... and just days after DC announced a company-wide relaunch/reboot.

@ComicMan24: Ta da!

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#13 Posted by CellphoneGirl (18854 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baddamdog said:
I really really hope that Schism will divide the team and re-create.... THE BLUE AND GOLD TEAMS SAFJSDFKBANFJNASVKAFKJHBSFVALKJVSJNFS.   Jus sayin.
OMFG that would be awesome!
#14 Posted by fesak (7053 posts) - - Show Bio

They don't really need a new title.  They'll cancel Astonishing too, that team would be split anyway.
Then we have:  Wolverines team: X-Force and Cyclops team: Adj.less

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#15 Posted by ComicMan24 (147090 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty: I had forgotten about this one lol
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#16 Posted by Baddamdog (2223 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:

Hopefully they'll actually have a defined roster for the book that actually comes to take its place.

QFT
#17 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13122 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men:Brand New Day 
 
 
kidding  they could just put the x-men who side with Logan in X-Force and the X-Men who side with Scott one of the other million x-titles
#18 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

@fesak said:

They don't really need a new title. They'll cancel Astonishing too, that team would be split anyway.Then we have: Wolverines team: X-Force and Cyclops team: Adj.less

Do they ever 'need' to publish new titles? That's how we ended up with "Adj.less"... This is Marvel; quantity over quality ;)

God, I hope they do cancel Astonishing. It's been an albatross hanging round their neck for years now.

@Baddamdog said:

I really really hope that Schism will divide the team and re-create.... THE BLUE AND GOLD TEAMS SAFJSDFKBANFJNASVKAFKJHBSFVALKJVSJNFS. Jus sayin.

Maybe. But less unified. I still doubt it'll last long... but I'm worried about who is in the centre of the Greg Land cover.

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#19 Posted by Baddamdog (2223 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty: Oooooo, that tricky red head again, I can imagine the last page of the issue showing her return or maybe just a little hint of her maybe returning. They gotta end it on something big, so I'm thinking either major death or return of the big red! 
 
One thing I'm concerned about is...Greg Land....drawing the LAST EVER issue of Uncanny....plus having the cover as well? Extremely under-whelming...
#20 Posted by Mutant God (3020 posts) - - Show Bio

Fantastic  X-Men  
Incredible X-Men 
X-Men Beyond  
Extreme X-Men
#21 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7816 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty: Yeah exactly the same with Thor, movie comes out and they decide to split the book in two, Ludicrous.
#22 Posted by CATPANEXE (9368 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with the notion that this book will likely relaunch into two series (not including Uncanny X-Force).
I think the Schism event is larger than just a disagreement between Wolverine and Cyclops, and many
current factors seem to indicate Magneto to go in his direction as well.

#23 Posted by -Eclipse- (7588 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice blog :) 
 
Maybe, in the same vein as the F4/FF, they won't be called the X-Men anymore?

#24 Posted by MrUnknown (1700 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty
Let's see with the exclusion of Uncanny, there are still Legacy, Adjectiveless, Astonishing, New Mutants and X-force. New Mutants will not be affected because the team is completely different and the book has its own separate place in the X-verse. Astonishing operates out of continuity so it will not be affected either though canceling it would have been a bright idea a while ago. Legacy also has its own niche, it centers on Rouge and even if she is part of one of the two speculative split teams, Legacy can continue to operate as a team within a team type of book. 

However, I agree with Fesak that X-men could become Cyclops' team and Wolvie already has X-force but somehow I doubt that Uncanny will not get replaced. I think if there were a split into two teams it will interfere with these two titles the most. But, all X-men really has going for it that it is more of the X-men in the Marvel universe, meaning we get lots of guest appearances in the title. The first two arcs clearly serve as examples. X-force is where the moral line is crossed. Granted if they put two new titles and keep them different enough and not just in terms of roster it could work. They should learn from the example of the newest launched Avengers titles which are currently a mess. But more titles are commended if they showcase different characters not just the same five characters stealing all the pages. And, if there can be ten Bat-books, then I don't see why it can't work for the X-verse.
 
As for the names I'll just call them the Humpty X-men and Dumpty X-men for now ;p
#25 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are people still saying that Astonishing operates out of continuity? FFS, only 2 issues of it's new era have come out and it's already getting criticized, just wait and you'll all see !

#26 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see Astonishing as Out Of Continuity, but I do see it as a separate entity.  It's pretty pointless to have a book running for the sake of it.  I was a vanity project to begin with, enticing famous writers that wouldn't normally have a chance to work on an X-Men book.  However, it's difficult to place the adventures of Astonishing in chronological order with the rest of the X-Men timelines... and the current creative teams would be better suited to a regular ongoing, instead of filling in for the lack of Whedon or Ellis.  I honestly think they should have axed that X-Men title instead.

 

I love MrUnknown's "Humpty X-Men" & "Dumpty X-Men".  I think I'll opt for "Tweedle Dum X-Men" & "Tweedle Dee X-Men" ;)

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#27 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd have X-Men starring Wolverine and Storm as co-leaders, as well as Pixie, X-23, Beast, Kitty, Colossus, Deadpool and Warren and the mutants belonging to the hippy/loser equation, and have it written by Aaron and intended for standard X-fare; continuing the plot threads from Uncanny.
 
Then I'd have X-Corps written by Paul Jenkins starring Cyclops, Emma Frost, Magneto, Professor X, Hellion, Psylocke and Fantomex. This would be the spiritual successor to X-Force and New X-Men (by Morrison) and be written with more mature audiences in mind.
 
Only the former is likely however, as the X-Franchise has been run into the ground and possesses all the sophistication of a Stephanie Meyer novel.

#28 Posted by Jake Fury (18615 posts) - - Show Bio

Ooooo oooo oooo! Storm can form a team and go after Destiny's diaries! Oh wait....  
*pouts and walks away*
#29 Posted by hydrabob--defunct (14860 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm betting that they take it to a whole new book. The only one that would make sense to me would be X-Men or Legacy and X-Men is not that good and they would have already used that #1 that people would go crazy for. Legacy isn't a big name well not to me and I don't see them letting the main book. X-Force and New Mutants are side teams and shouldn't be carrying the main roster. Astonishing just sucks and isn't going to be the main title.

#30 Posted by sora_thekey (8173 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically "Uncanny X-Men" has never had a #1. You said it yourself. This title went from being called X-Men to Uncanny X-Men mid series. It would- technically -be a landmark issue since there has never been a number one for that adjective.

If you think about it, Marvel has always been smart about their sales (maybe not their adjectives but selling a book is easy for them). When something big happens in the movie business they immediately launch #1s and min-series. Iron Man movies came out and Invincible Iron Man turned #500, Thor movie came out and Mighty Thor #1 appeared, Captain America is getting ready to come out and a new Captain America series is out. X-Men: First Class came out and what did Marvel do? Well there was the subtle launch of X-Men Giant Size #1 beginning the "First to Last" story arc which showcases the actual First Class. Yet, I am sure that was easily overlooked... so what is the strategy here? The most likely move is either launch a new shiny #1 or make sure that the Adjective-less X-Men book becomes the prominent book in the X-Universe.

Of course I am saying all of this with the lack of knowledge of what Schism will do to split up the X-Men.

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#31 Posted by tbone1225 (234 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they should just apologize for the announcement and continue to publish Uncanny X-Men. I just don't trust that they can do anything interesting by canceling this title. Maybe if they had someone amazing like Geoff Johns or Grant Morrison (who both seem to be busy with DC) on the title, there could be a fantastic renaissance. Heck, Joss Whedon had a hell of a renaissance with Astonishing, but I just can't see good coming of this.

#32 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8096 posts) - - Show Bio

umm maybe THE CANNY X MEN

#33 Edited by PrinceIMC (5422 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it will represent the schism between groups of X-Men, sort of be like there was no adjectiveless Avengers book after disassembled. There was New Avengers, Mighty Avengers even Dark Avengers but we didn't get the Avengers back until the Heroic Age.
 
Also I think the team needs to split into more than just two. I hope it's not just Wolverine on one side and Cyclops on the other. Magneto and Xavier should be a third side and maybe come up with something for Rogue to do. Basically for every X-Men book there should be a different team and a different loyalty.

#34 Posted by Gold Dust Boi (516 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly How dare they bring us a new X-men (Vol. 3) and then cancel Uncanny.  Travesty...its almost like they ALREADY relaunched it right under our noses and we didn't realize...

#35 Posted by Blue_Shield (752 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a fan of this announcement, but I assume Schism has something to do with it. In the wake of the movie as well, I think it may be a new Uncanny X-Men and possibly a Brotherhood series (X-Men: Brotherhood), I hope not.

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#36 Posted by fenixREVOLUTION (889 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm waiting for this to blow over before jumping into X-Men, so I hope they do whatever it is they're intending very well.

#38 Posted by SleepyDrug (75 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't mind a new volume of Extreme X-Men.  I'm surprised no-one suggested a return to the All-New, All-Different X-Men.
#39 Posted by Jake Fury (18615 posts) - - Show Bio

The All-New, All-Different, Xtreme, New, Uncanny Utopian Mutant Hero Team. *whew*
#40 Posted by Cervantes (634 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:

God, I hope they do cancel Astonishing. It's been an albatross hanging round their neck for years now.



Hear, hear! I own every season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and really respect Joss Whedon... but Astonishing X-men was really bad! And I'm not trolling; ridiculous design for the alien adversary (eyebrow eyelashes?! nose tube?! I'm terrified, but for the wrong reasons...), Break World has frescoes of Collosus fulfilling an ancient prophesy, and a GIANT MOONGUN! What is this, Star Wars VII: The Gun Moon?! And Kitty Pryde can not only turn the bullet incorporeal, but also guess when the Earth is approaching so she can time it right!
#41 Posted by djotaku (441 posts) - - Show Bio

My biggest annoyance is that they don't use Volume numbers.  For years up to at least the early 90s they had Vol 1 in front of all their titles.  Now they removed volume and it becomes hard for people like me to properly track issue numbers in my personal database.  If it wasn't for Comic Vine I'd be going mad! 

#42 Posted by Chesapeake (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

You were spot on, now we have .......<<  Wolverine and the X-men" which it's the same name as a fan favorite TV series and more of the same Uncanny X-Men#1 >> Those are two great names coming out from the house of ideas.
#43 Posted by Elixir95 (388 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always understood that Uncanny was the "flagship" title, but it never really manage to stand up to the quality of other X-Titles.  It felt like more of a necessity to buy at times.  I.e. when Brubaker took over "Uncanny" and Carey "Adjectiveless", I think there was no question that the latter was far better.  I'm guessing that was true when the latter was launched too and Morrison's "New X-Men".  Personally for me, Uncanny being canceled is really more of a sentimental thing because as you've said it's one of the only titles that has survived the numerous revamps and it has been a cool demonstration of the X-Men's popularity as a franchise. 
 
Having said that, I've had to leave comics for about a year 'cause I can't really afford them anymore, and the other day, I had some money, and the only title I bought was Uncanny (five issues), and I did enjoy it.  Thoroughly actually.  I think it serves as a helpful tool for the franchise because it does help ease people into the X-Universe, let them get to grips with the basics before getting to the down-right-and-dirty-good-stuff, so I'm contemplating if the universe will now be as accessible as it was without the title.

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