X Men: First Class best Marvel film to date?

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#1 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio

Saw it last night and it was pretty good. I think its the best Marvel has made apart from X2 and maybe The Hulk (2003). Might see it again.  
Anyone else agrees?

#2 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19249 posts) - - Show Bio

One problem with this statement above...The Hulk of 2003 was atrociousness

#3 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not a Marvel film. It's a Fox film.

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#4 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress
I see what you did there. LOL.
#5 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Slight said:
One problem with this statement above...The Hulk of 2003 was atrociousness


That movie was completely ass...
#6 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Not the best one, but it's definitely good.

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#7 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19249 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
@Slight said:
One problem with this statement above...The Hulk of 2003 was atrociousness
That movie was completely ass...
Completely
#8 Edited by SC (13108 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Iron Man was the best film overall, but Thor was close, and Thor had way more room to fail. I mean Iron Man, Tony Stark, Robert Downey Junior. You'd have to be like the Matt fraction of the movie making directing world to screw that up. Not a simple character, but played simply, still very entertaining. Now I say Thor was great. Especially if you were sorta expecting it to flop, and not be so good. First Class. Effin aye, was a bit rough around the edges, some scenes seemed force, some parts were a bit cheesy and cliche, but holy hell Magneto and Xavier roles. Really made an average to good movie, amazing and excellent. Mystique role as well. Strong character driven movie, plot not as tight but yeah. I'd say those three are the gems in the Marvel movie crown. 

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#9 Posted by Manchine (4169 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say best XMen film but not best Marvel Film.  I was pleasently surprised that it didn't suck like X3.
#10 Posted by Edamame (28139 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5: What did you like the most about X-Men: First Class? Also, what didn't you like about it?
#11 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno guys, Elektra was really good.

#12 Posted by Osiris1428 (1349 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Thor was that great. It's between Iron Man and X-Men: First Class.

#13 Posted by Chaos Burn (1784 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed IronMan the most, as I am sure most people did. 
 
IronMan
X 1 & 2
Thor
X First Class
 
In that order, and don't get me started on Elektra, Spider-Man 3 and Wolverine Origins

#14 Posted by unrealgamer38 (694 posts) - - Show Bio

Is that saying much?

#15 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame: Everything. I don't dislike anything about it. It's a near perfect film.  
@Slight said:
@Static Shock said:
@Slight said:
One problem with this statement above...The Hulk of 2003 was atrociousness
That movie was completely ass...
Completely
I didn't watch Hulk for the action, i was far more interested in the emotions put into it. It was a dramatic film. I liked that.  
@SC said:
I think Iron Man was the best film overall, but Thor was close, and Thor had way more room to fail. I mean Iron Man, Tony Stark, Robert Downey Junior. You'd have to be like the Matt fraction of the movie making directing world to screw that up. Not a simple character, but played simply, still very entertaining. Now I say Thor was great. Especially if you were sorta expecting it to flop, and not be so good. First Class. Effin aye, was a bit rough around the edges, some scenes seemed force, some parts were a bit cheesy and cliche, but holy hell Magneto and Xavier roles. Really made an average to good movie, amazing and excellent. Mystique role as well. Strong character driven movie, plot not as tight but yeah. I'd say those three are the gems in the Marvel movie crown. 
Ok, I think Iron Man is overrated but Thor is an entertaining movie. But not a good film. Not enough effort put into it. Subpar at best. 
#16 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19249 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5: For that reason, and all the others...it was a horrible movie
#17 Posted by cascadeking09 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually don't think this one was better than either of the Ironman movies, or the incredible hulk. Which tie for the best imo.

#18 Posted by RisingBean (3971 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm hard pressed to choose between the first X-men or the 2008 Hulk. Spider-man 2 would be in the running but the power loss subplot irked me.
#19 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

It was the best Fox super hero movie so far but I liked the Incredible Hulk, Iron Man and Thor much better

#20 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I the only one thinking that Iron Man 2 was better than the first movie? 

#21 Posted by iLLituracy (13537 posts) - - Show Bio

First Class gets more credit than it deserves a lot of the time. It was good but to say it was the best? I dunno', man. 

#22 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8141 posts) - - Show Bio

For me!! personally It was the best Marvel film. And it also Put the Trilogy to shame by itself 

#23 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dracade102 said:
Am I the only one thinking that Iron Man 2 was better than the first movie? 
Yes
#24 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Umbra Sorcerer said:
For me!! personally It was the best Marvel film. And it also Put the Trilogy to shame by itself 
second this. Liked the whole espionage/caper/superhero film they had going on. 
#25 Posted by cascadeking09 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Being better than the other 3 movies doesn't seem that hard IMO. The first one was good as a start, but not great, the second was much better, the third was kind of bad, then this was really good. My main problem though is that it doesn't stick to the story at all and leaves me very confused.
 
In the last stand Eric and Charles are seen recruiting Jean together, and during that time Charles was still walking. Then on top of that there's beast being close in age to Charles and Eric, but he should be at least be a good 10 years younger than both of them. Havok was an exception, but I thought it was totally stupid if you know who the character is to have him be so much older than Scott (who he should be younger than) and then doing the hula dance to fire off his blasts. Another problem is both Scott and Ororo are shown looking at least 10 years old in, but the movie took place in the 60's they should either not even be born at the time or they should be babies. The last of the many problems with this movie's continuity is that I can think of is that Eric stated that he and Charles built cerebro together, but in this movie it is Hank that created it. 
 
These aren't things that ruin the movie for me, becaue I still thought it was really good, but I think that they should've at least taken the time out fix the problems with the many contradictions that are in this movie.

#26 Posted by iLLituracy (13537 posts) - - Show Bio

First Class only further butchered continuity. I came home and watched X-Men on Netflix after seeing First Class and there's so many things wrong just between First Class and the first movie that I kept yelling at the movie to stop being wrong. Like how Xavier claims he met Magneto when he was 17 and how Xavier fails to know about Magneto's helmet just to name a few. Even between First Class and Wolverine which is supposed to be set after First Class there's a bunch of contradictions, like the fact that Emma Frost is a child in Wolverine's movie and grown in First Class.

#27 Posted by Doctor!!!!! (2055 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie saved the Franchises ass!

#28 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@iLLituracy said:
First Class only further butchered continuity. I came home and watched X-Men on Netflix after seeing First Class and there's so many things wrong just between First Class and the first movie that I kept yelling at the movie to stop being wrong. Like how Xavier claims he met Magneto when he was 17 and how Xavier fails to know about Magneto's helmet just to name a few. Even between First Class and Wolverine which is supposed to be set after First Class there's a bunch of contradictions, like the fact that Emma Frost is a child in Wolverine's movie and grown in First Class.
I didn't care about continuity problems in the film house. I was too busy enjoying the film for what it was. 
#29 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dracade102 said:
Am I the only one thinking that Iron Man 2 was better than the first movie? 
Iron Man 2 equally as good as the first just in different ways, the first was great on character development and story and the second was great on action and had a much better villain 
#30 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno. It ruined continuity of the real BEST.... Wolverine! Nyehehehe! Kidding of course. The real best is the 90's Captain America. :D

#31 Edited by The Stegman (24368 posts) - - Show Bio

i actually disliked the movie...A LOT to me its FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR from the best Marvel movie, my favorites are 
 
1. Iron Man 
2. X2 
3 Spider-Man 2 
4 Spider-Man 
5 x-Men 
6- the newest Hulk one

#32 Posted by coolbeans (253 posts) - - Show Bio

The best that marvel movie that Fox studios has done.  As far as all the marvel movies though Ironman, Incredible Hulk (2008), and Thor we're better.

#33 Posted by cyberninja (10413 posts) - - Show Bio

1;   Howard the Duck  
2:  1990's Captain America  
3:  . Elektra   
4:   Hulk (2003) 

#34 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7817 posts) - - Show Bio

It's good but i wouldn't go that far.

#35 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Best Marvel movies for me are:

  • Spiderman 2
  • Thor
  • Ironman
  • The Incredible Hulk (2008)
  • X-2
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#36 Posted by Youngcircle (408 posts) - - Show Bio

The best marvel movies to date (though they all are pretty cheesy and meh) 
 
1. Iron Man 2 
2. Hulk 2008 
3. Iron Man 
4. Elektra 
5. Thor 
#37 Posted by RedRobin92 (238 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Iron Man
2. X-Men: First Class
3. Thor
4. The Incredible Hulk
5. Toss up between Spider-Man: 2 and Iron Man 2

#38 Posted by JediXMan (30597 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:
Saw it last night and it was pretty good. I think its the best Marvel has made apart from X2 and maybe The Hulk (2003). Might see it again.  Anyone else agrees?
Whoa whoa whoa.... WHOA!
 
What did you just say?!
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#39 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
Saw it last night and it was pretty good. I think its the best Marvel has made apart from X2 and maybe The Hulk (2003). Might see it again.  Anyone else agrees?
Whoa whoa whoa.... WHOA!  What did you just say?!
What's all this hate with The Hulk? Just  because its not a mindless action film doesn't make it a bad movie. It was excellent IMO.
#40 Posted by Ebbm (1118 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Spider-man I and 2 were better than X: First Class, but it wad definitely the best X-men movie.

#41 Posted by JediXMan (30597 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
Saw it last night and it was pretty good. I think its the best Marvel has made apart from X2 and maybe The Hulk (2003). Might see it again.  Anyone else agrees?
Whoa whoa whoa.... WHOA!  What did you just say?!
What's all this hate with The Hulk? Just  because its not a mindless action film doesn't make it a bad movie. It was excellent IMO.
It was just so... horrid. Only redeemable part was Lou Ferrigno's cameo.
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#42 Posted by Ebbm (1118 posts) - - Show Bio
@iLLituracy: yeah that's why its just best to look at X-Men: First Class as a reboot.
#43 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
Saw it last night and it was pretty good. I think its the best Marvel has made apart from X2 and maybe The Hulk (2003). Might see it again.  Anyone else agrees?
Whoa whoa whoa.... WHOA!  What did you just say?!
What's all this hate with The Hulk? Just  because its not a mindless action film doesn't make it a bad movie. It was excellent IMO.
It was just so... horrid. Only redeemable part was Lou Ferrigno's cameo.
What was horrible about it? And don't say "everything".
#44 Posted by iLLituracy (13537 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ebbm said:
@iLLituracy: yeah that's why its just best to look at X-Men: First Class as a reboot.
Until the next movie where they butcher continuity again? Nah. Pass.
#45 Posted by JediXMan (30597 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
Saw it last night and it was pretty good. I think its the best Marvel has made apart from X2 and maybe The Hulk (2003). Might see it again.  Anyone else agrees?
Whoa whoa whoa.... WHOA!  What did you just say?!
What's all this hate with The Hulk? Just  because its not a mindless action film doesn't make it a bad movie. It was excellent IMO.
It was just so... horrid. Only redeemable part was Lou Ferrigno's cameo.
What was horrible about it? And don't say "everything".
I simply can't think of a good part. Action wasn't even that good. And Hulk just looked incredibly stupid; far too bright.
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#46 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
@JediXMan said:
@mark5 said:
Saw it last night and it was pretty good. I think its the best Marvel has made apart from X2 and maybe The Hulk (2003). Might see it again.  Anyone else agrees?
Whoa whoa whoa.... WHOA!  What did you just say?!
What's all this hate with The Hulk? Just  because its not a mindless action film doesn't make it a bad movie. It was excellent IMO.
It was just so... horrid. Only redeemable part was Lou Ferrigno's cameo.
What was horrible about it? And don't say "everything".
I simply can't think of a good part. Action wasn't even that good. And Hulk just looked incredibly stupid; far too bright.
I never asked what was good, i asked what was bad. Hulk too bright? Yeah the CGI wasn't too good on Hulk but that doesn't ruin a movie. Look at the direction, editing, script, cinematography, score, set, and the sheer emotion put into the Bruce/Hulk persona. Too many good things were done in that film for anyone to dismiss it. It had the best montage editing i've seen in a film apart from Requiem for a dream. 
#47 Posted by JediXMan (30597 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5
 
It just seemed all over the place, and the whole thing with Absorbing Man just felt awkward. 
 
It's been awhile since I saw it. I might see it again just to refresh my self with my reasons. I've seen it twice: the initial time, and a few years later when it was given to me as a gift. I watched it again to see if my opinion had changed, and it had not.
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#48 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: I have been a hulk fan all my life I literally learned to read from Hulk comics and not once have I ever thought to myself "This whole Hulk Smash thing is cool and all but I really wish I could see some emotional depth" No I want to see Hulk do the sh*t I can't do like smash Tanks and make hardened soldiers piss their pants and kick villain ass 
#49 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@mark5:   It just seemed all over the place, and the whole thing with Absorbing Man just felt awkward.   It's been awhile since I saw it. I might see it again just to refresh my self with my reasons. I've seen it twice: the initial time, and a few years later when it was given to me as a gift. I watched it again to see if my opinion had changed, and it had not.
I suggest you should and try to keep an open mind. The film itself shows its possible for an superhero film to have significant depth in it apart form mindless action. It really made me understand and get some insight into a character i would otherwise not care about.
#50 Posted by JediXMan (30597 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:
@JediXMan said:
@mark5:   It just seemed all over the place, and the whole thing with Absorbing Man just felt awkward.   It's been awhile since I saw it. I might see it again just to refresh my self with my reasons. I've seen it twice: the initial time, and a few years later when it was given to me as a gift. I watched it again to see if my opinion had changed, and it had not.
I suggest you should and try to keep an open mind. The film itself shows its possible for an superhero film to have significant depth in it apart form mindless action. It really made me understand and get some insight into a character i would otherwise not care about.
I had an open mind both times I saw it. I walked away irritated. But I'll give it a third chance. 
 
But honestly, I felt a lot more satisfied with the new movie.
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