The Strongest?

#1 Posted by Aevelas (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Nate Grey truly the strongest telepath in existence? I've heard so much about the world's most powerful telepath, and I've come to the conclusion that no one can agree on who is truly the strongest. Some people say Professor Xavier, others say Cable. Some will argue Jean Grey, then there are those who go with Nate. What is the bottom line on this?

#2 Posted by Thee Arch Angel Micheal (443 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah i think at his peak he was, it seems if you make heroes too tough you cant write good stories for them? didn't x-man bring phoenix back from the dead cause he missed his mum? and he smashed exodus without breaking a sweat.

#4 Posted by Thee Arch Angel Micheal (443 posts) - - Show Bio

Not Phoenix, Madelyn Pryor, Jeans clone.

#5 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah thats her, how powerful do you have to be to raise the dead?

#6 Posted by Thee Arch Angel Micheal (443 posts) - - Show Bio

I just did a little research, and Nate Grey (X-man) is potentially the must powerful mutant on Earth. As far as Madalyn goes apparently Nate used his power of prodigious to tap into the remaining psionic energies of Madelyn and created a new body. What does that mean? I have no idea but it sounds powerful.

#7 Posted by The Shaman (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Nate was one of the most powerful mutants on Earth but he didn't have the amount of training and experience he needed to reach his full potential. Plus his powers were destroying him so if he used his full on power too much he'd die. It wasn't till he became the Shaman that he was allowed to become truly powerful and even then he wasn't given a chance to reach his true potential cause they killed him off sometime after he became the Shaman.

As to the Phoenix though, Nate is more powerful than just Jean Grey herself but Phoenix is a cosmic entity around almost since beginning of time, and ultimately can do so much more based on the fact that it allows for unlimited energy and allows the host of the Phoenix entity to use full extent of their powers right away without the consequence of overwhelming of tiring. But his energy and power level in the beginning were compared to that of the Phoenix.

#8 Posted by HellionVulcan (3455 posts) - - Show Bio

Nate Grey at his peak was the most Powerful telepath alive besides Phoenix Jean grey of course as Phoenix power is infinite but the test they did in comic to see how powerful Nate was to the Phoenix only went by Human machine & could only read so far but i think X-man was the most powerful of all time .. .

#9 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

To give you an idea of how powerful Nate is: He ripped Xavier out of the astral plane when they first met. He was genetically engineered by Sinister to be the most powerful mutant ever. So yes, Cable/X-Man/Stryfe is/are/were the most powerful telepathic power on Earth.

#10 Edited by scuzz2.0 (271 posts) - - Show Bio

i think everyone is forgetting someone,... LEGION!!, after only just becoming lucid and barely tapping into his full potential moira mactaggert said that he was already 10 times the telepath his father was! think about how powerfull he would have become if  he reached his potential! imo legion would smoke nate grey!


#11 Posted by Meanstreak (415 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion Vs Nate Grey would be a cool battle.

#12 Posted by G-w-D (547 posts) - - Show Bio
scuzz2.0 said:
"i think everyone is forgetting someone,... LEGION!!, after only just becoming lucid and barely tapping into his full potential moira mactaggert said that he was already 10 times the telepath his father was! think about how powerfull he would have become if  he reached his potential! imo legion would smoke nate grey!"

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#13 Posted by Edamame (27998 posts) - - Show Bio

The strongest telepath? That would be Phoenix, I believe.

#14 Posted by NateGrey (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Nate at a young age and not fully realized was rated at a level equal to that of Dark Phoenix. The amount of growth he has shown in his powers I think over time he could reach a level to that of White Phoenix. Fact is he is still young and growing in experience and ability. He's done things with his telekinesis and telepathy that few other could hardly dream of being capable of. Currently he can bend the walls of reality and step outside reality. And more recently see over 300 possible futures at once. He can become energy at will to simply avoid an attack and take over another body and use their powers on top of his own. He's shown the ability to adapt new defences in the heat of battle against entire well trained and powerful opponents and teams. He's shown potential like few others. Leave him alive to grow in his powers there is no telling what he could be capable of. And this is all without the aid of any outside cosmic forces, power absorbtion, multiple personalities, etc...
 
Also when it comes down to it, there really is more to Nate than just raw power. He's got serious skill with that power and a mind that seems to be able to come up with inventive and useful ways of utilizing that power. Fact is when it comes to his intelligence, strength of will and inventiveness Nate Grey is seriously underrated when you really look at some of the things he's done. Instead of facing Sentry he simply played the thespian that he is and manipulated him into taking off. He's also shown the potential for real leadership ability, after all he carries the Summers gene as well Grey. Again though he is still young and the things he's done have all been him. He really didn't receive any training in his powers, learning as he's gone through life in the heat of countless battles over a very short amount of time. The most training he really received was unarmed combat training from Forge and a few nudges and ideas from Sinister. The rest is from battling various foes Sinister, Apocalypse, Holocaust, Dark Beast, Xavier (who he ripped from the astral plane on a whim), Excalibur, The Marauders, Exodus (who he overloaded with power and threw into a mountain crevice which he then shut closed), Cable, Fantastic Four (who he outsmarted), The Avengers, Stryfe, Abomination, Hulk, Thanos, Evil Queen Jean, Qabiri and the list goes on and on. Those are just several I can currently still remember.

#15 Posted by BattleHeiz (642 posts) - - Show Bio
@NateGrey: Please can you post some scans
#16 Posted by NateGrey (33 posts) - - Show Bio

It may take some time to find some good battle related pics but I can definitely upload what I've got so far in my collection

#17 Posted by Gawdzilla (376 posts) - - Show Bio

Nate power is Over 9000

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