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#1 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

Why/how is Pyro potentially omega level? Can someone also clearify why blob, forge and cable are also potentially omega level? If Mr. Immortal is on the list, then shouldn't Wolverine be on the list? Thanks

#2 Posted by Mr Mofo (354 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks a little wonky to me. A lot of speculation.

#3 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

Agreed. Also, does anyone know of any other omega-level mutants???

#4 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

I understand that, but I don't really see how controlling fire for example is potentially omega-level worthy. Or being able to make any machine.

#5 Posted by Darkchild (41470 posts) - - Show Bio

tehir not omegas their speculated to be Omegas or could potentially be Omegas

#6 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah he is homo-supreme, but I don't see him being much if any more powerful than other omega levels, so in my opinion, he is just omega level. Also, wolverine and many other characters are a lot like mr. immortal (better and worse in different aspects), so shouldn't they be higher up on the list?

#7 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr Immortal is beyond the omega list. He is the only human Superior (That was it, right?)

#8 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Opps, sorry I mean human Supreme.

#9 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yeah, and shouldn't Xavier be omega level? He can kill people by thinking about it, or make an omega level mutant act like an infant. That seems pretty powerful to me.

#10 Posted by Mr Mofo (354 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe someone that actually contributed to the list has an answer.

#11 Posted by Darkchild (41470 posts) - - Show Bio

i believe that Pryo could be considered a potential because he had the potential to continue changing in power but he didnt last that long

#13 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

How do I contact someone who made the list? I didn't know Pyro could change in power. What can he do?

#14 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah, i was wondering if you knew of any other omega levels or if you know any other place to look them up? Also, I was wondering why Pyro and Forge are on the list. I was just curious...

#17 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, I didn't know I could take people off... (I am new). Thanks for helping me out!

#19 Posted by Mr Mofo (354 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't say Pryo has much potential for anything since he died from the Legacy Virus some time back.

#20 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

You seem like a very knowledgeable person. Can you tell me the limits of Wolverine's healing factor (anyone can answer by the way)? I have tried to pin this down, but I hear many different stories about him being immortal, healing factor resides in his soul, surviving being completely de-atomized, and many other fantastic claims.

#21 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with only removing forge.

#22 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine is not immortal. (cant remember what issue it was) but in Wolverine Civil War, the issue right before the Sentry shows up to stop him, his head is nearly cut off. He admits himself that that would have killed him.

#23 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

I see. I have heard too many things about this, and don't know what to think.

#25 Posted by G-Man (18920 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't say IMMORTAL means you can't age. Otherwise they'd stay an infant forever.

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#26 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

Good point, but mutants don't usually have powers at birth and there can always be someone who says that once there body stops growing (mature adult) then they don't age from then on...

#27 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

That is what I was thinking.

#28 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

I know the first nine were mentioned in comics but 10-13 I haven't seen. Whoever added them could site the comics that information came from. The other lists don't really mean anything. (Omega itself is just a title.)

As for this:

aztek_the_lost says:

"weaponx says:
"You seem like a very knowledgeable person. Can you tell me the limits of Wolverine's healing factor (anyone can answer by the way)? I have tried to pin this down, but I hear many different stories about him being immortal, healing factor resides in his soul, surviving being completely de-atomized, and many other fantastic claims. "

some believe it to be so, but it is not true, it was stated that the only reason he survived Nitro's blast is because his adamantium skull protected his brain from disintegration

immortal means he does not age...which he doesn't

some believe him to be able to live forever but I disagree with that statement"

Depends on if you're sticking to the written stories, but it was explained in Wolverine: "Logan Dies" (57-61) that he actually was immortal because he killed the angel of death. His soul couldn't die so his healing factor would bring him back together from anything (that's how he survived Nitro). That's been changed now and he says he's back to how he used to be. (Don't know exactly how efficient that makes his healing factor though.)

Also, he does age. There have been a few far future stories that show him as old, gray and not quite as physically fit as he is now (complaining about being out of shape and showing that things he does now are difficult and painful in his old age). There's actually another such story coming up. So he does age, just very slowly.
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#29 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10120 posts) - - Show Bio

Dont take anything off,because of your opinion.

Forge is omega,or has the potential.

#33 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10120 posts) - - Show Bio

aztek_the_lost says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"Dont take anything off,because of your opinion.Forge is omega,or has the potential."

I'll add him...if you explain why you think this"

He is able to create any machine,no matter what it is.Are you kidding me?

The following list is of mutants that fit the characteristics needed to be an Omega-Level mutant:

  1. Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch-She is

  2. Everett Thomas/Synch-Hell yes

  3. Erik Lehnsherr/Magneto-Yes

  4. Bennet du Paris/Exodus-Yes

  5. Ororo Munroe/Storm-yes

  6. Mikhail Rasputin/Mikhail Rasputin-No

  7. Nathan Summers/Cable-Not with that virus

  8. David Haller/Legion-Should be

  9. Kevin MacTaggert/Proteus-Should be

  10. Kevin Sidney/Morph-Should be

  11. Trevor Fitzroy/Trevor Fitzroy-NAH

  12. Selene Gallio/Selene-NAH

  13. Jubilation Lee/Jubilee-WTF

  14. Madison Jeffries/Madison Jeffries-Iffy

  15. Jonathan Silvercloud/Forge-Should be

  16. New Son/New Son-He is

  17. Sir James Jaspers/Mad Jim Jaspers-He is

  18. Joseph/Joseph-Sould be

  19. Madelyne Pryor/Madelyne Pryor-Should be.

  20. Nathan Summers/Stryfe-He is.

This list is several mutants that fans have speculated that could be Omega-Level, at least in time:

  1. James Braddock/Jamie Braddock-iffy

  2. Azazel/Azazel-Hell yeah

  3. Amahl Farouk/Shadow King-Yeah

  4. St. John Allerdyce/Pyro-hell no

  5. Sebastian Shaw/Sebastian Shaw-Iffy

  6. Alec Yuric/Chrome-Yeah

  7. Eileen Harsaw/Phantazia-No

  8. En Sabah Nur/Apocalypse-Ummmm,maybe

  9. Petra Kristensen/Petra-IDK

  10. Lorna Dane/Polaris-Yes

  11. Remy LeBeau/Gambit-Yup,just look at New Son

  12. Frederick Dukes/Blob-No

  13. Santo Vaccarro/Rockslide-No

Also there is a character in the Marvel Universe who seems to have surpassed Omega-Level and is the true pinnacle of human evolution, and so he has been deemed Homo Supreme rather than Homo Superior:

  1. Craig Hollis/Mr. Immortal
#34 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

You know, I've only seen one written example of someone being confirmed as Omega and that was Iceman. Not saying there aren't others, but if someone had knowledge of where I could see other examples I'd be greatful.

#37 Posted by G-Man (18920 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to agree. I don't know where a lot of this is coming from. "Alpha Mutants," "Omega Mutants," etc. It's all Greek, literally. What's next? Delta? Theta? Sigma? (Yes, I use a lot of Greek in teaching Mathematics).

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#38 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

G-Man says:

"I have to agree. I don't know where a lot of this is coming from. "Alpha Mutants," "Omega Mutants," etc. It's all Greek, literally. What's next? Delta? Theta? Sigma? (Yes, I use a lot of Greek in teaching Mathematics)."

There is a Delta.

#40 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10120 posts) - - Show Bio

Well then take out the ones that you know for sure cant possibly be..

Blob,Jubilee,Pyro.

#41 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by Cannon Fodder (133 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"aztek_the_lost says:
"Akira Overdrive says:
"Dont take anything off,because of your opinion.Forge is omega,or has the potential."

I'll add him...if you explain why you think this"

He is able to create any machine,no matter what it is.Are you kidding me?

"

His ability is limited as he isnt consciously able to understand the mechanics of his more complicated machines, needing to take them apart to do so.

He would need to be able to display an ability like Hank Henshaw(cyborg superman) to be possibly considered Omega, i.e. transfer consciousness into a machine making one's self practically immortal.

#43 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10120 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaper says:

"http://www.comicvine.com/delta-level-mutants/47884/"

Why is Prodigy and Sage on that list?

#45 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

aztek_the_lost says:

"aztek_the_lost says:
"Gambler says:
"You know, I've only seen one written example of someone being confirmed as Omega and that was Iceman. Not saying there aren't others, but if someone had knowledge of where I could see other examples I'd be greatful."
Mr. M is in the X-Men: The 198 series"
oh yeah and I remember Vulcan was referred to as being beyond Omega...though it has been said this was a mistake as Omega is already unlimited potential"

and what exactly does unlimited potential mean? complete control over their own powers? able to do anything they want? its all a little vague to me.

#46 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10120 posts) - - Show Bio

Prodigy and Sage are Alpha.

#47 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10120 posts) - - Show Bio

Sync should automatically be an Omega.

#48 Posted by Cannon Fodder (133 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"aztek_the_lost says:
"aztek_the_lost says:
"Gambler says:
"You know, I've only seen one written example of someone being confirmed as Omega and that was Iceman. Not saying there aren't others, but if someone had knowledge of where I could see other examples I'd be greatful."
Mr. M is in the X-Men: The 198 series"
oh yeah and I remember Vulcan was referred to as being beyond Omega...though it has been said this was a mistake as Omega is already unlimited potential"

and what exactly does unlimited potential mean? complete control over their own powers? able to do anything they want? its all a little vague to me."

I thought it was a point where the control became something intangible and made them immortal, for example, Iceman could originally manipulate watre int he form of ice right? So IF he were to manifest his full potential, he would have unlimited control over heat in the sense of taking away heat. He could possibly exist as some sort of absolute zero "space" in the universe, eventually unneeding of a body but becoming his power. Thats what I thought anyway.

#49 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Cannon Fodder says:

"Apparition says:
"aztek_the_lost says:
"aztek_the_lost says:
"Gambler says:
"You know, I've only seen one written example of someone being confirmed as Omega and that was Iceman. Not saying there aren't others, but if someone had knowledge of where I could see other examples I'd be greatful."
Mr. M is in the X-Men: The 198 series"
oh yeah and I remember Vulcan was referred to as being beyond Omega...though it has been said this was a mistake as Omega is already unlimited potential"
and what exactly does unlimited potential mean? complete control over their own powers? able to do anything they want? its all a little vague to me."
I thought it was a point where the control became something intangible and made them immortal, for example, Iceman could originally manipulate watre int he form of ice right? So IF he were to manifest his full potential, he would have unlimited control over heat in the sense of taking away heat. He could possibly exist as some sort of absolute zero "space" in the universe, eventually unneeding of a body but becoming his power. Thats what I thought anyway."

maybe but i dont see that same level of power being shown by these other so called omegas.

#50 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Prodigy and Sage are Alpha."

why?

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