Omega Level Mutant

#1 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

How is someone determined as being an Omega Level Mutant? is wolverine one? no he's just an annoyance. lol

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#2 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

was there an reason as to why the other tread was locked?

#3 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Because i posted the same thing twice i suppose

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#4 Posted by fesak (7052 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no real clarification on any of the mutant power levels, which is why i think it's stupid.

Omega has been vaguely described as someone with unlimited potential, even more stupid.

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#5 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL..well i can Understand Elixir and Jean being omegas, because they can manipulate things down to a genetic level...i think Omega's are those mutants that pose the greatest threat to Humanity, ased soley on their powers

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#6 Posted by IcePrince_X (4865 posts) - - Show Bio

Omega mutants

Omega mutants are the most powerful class of mutants. Omega mutants can control matter and energy, have unlimited potential and are possibly even immortal. All Omega mutants are also Alpha mutants but not all Alpha mutants are Omega mutants. For example Jean Grey is an Alpha mutant because of her power and lack of flaws and is also an Omega mutant because of how powerful she is. Gambit on the other hand falls under Alpha mutant for the same reasons but isn't powerful enough to be an Omega mutant.

* Only classify mutants as Omega Level if they have been explicitly referenced as Omega Level within continuity or if they regularly match the feats of a known Omega Level mutant.

Based from Marvel Wikia

For me, classifying mutant powers is okay. We need at least some level of knowledge how power level works in the Marvel Universe. The only thing that is bothersome in this set up are writers who tend to not follow or create their own definition of power level for example, Vulcan who is said to be more powerful than an omega mutant which is actually way too impossible unless we go to another level power of near god powers or cosmic beings.

Also, one can be an Omega Mutant but does not follow that mutant manifest the full extent of his powers because of personal reason or lack of experience or his/her body has not matured enough to use such powers. So, an omega mutant can still be vulnerable to attacks and being killed

As for Wolverine he is a Beta Mutant like Mystique and Sabretooth

#7 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Could the strongest be Franklin Richards?

It was onced stated by the character Roma, that his power would eventually rival the Celestials.

He onced created a universe that held the Heroes Reborn.

#8 Posted by Iron Maiden (364 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"The strongest is Jean Grey confirmed as having the ultimate mutation as her particular mutation is the culmination of the Celestials experiements to seed humanity with the genetic potential to replace the abstract forces of the universe."

And that's why the tart should stay dead.
#9 Edited by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Omega Level Mutants
Mad Jim Jaspers
Jean Grey\Phoenix
Iceman
Vulcan
Franklin Richards
X-Man
Elixir
Kid Omega
Darwin
Mister M
Mr.Immortal
Jaime Braddock

Potential
Dazzler
Storm
Magneto
Marvel Girl
Scarlet Witch
Mysterious Fanboy
Exodus
Synch
Gaia
Decibel (before depowered)
Goblin Queen
Cable
Shadow King

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#10 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

why would jamie just be a potential

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#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"why would jamie just be a potential"
I messed up.lol
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#12 Posted by fesak (7052 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Omega Level Mutants
Mad Jim Jaspers
Jean Grey\Phoenix
Iceman
Vulcan
Franklin Richards
X-Man
Elixir
Kid Omega
Darwin
Mister M
Mr.Immortal

Potential
Dazzler
Storm
Magneto
Marvel Girl
Scarlet Witch
Mysterious Fanboy
Exodus
Synch
Gaia
Jaime Braddock
Decibel (before depowered)
Goblin Queen
Cable
Shadow King

"


Several of these are not Omega. There are only eight confirmed Omega-Level mutants.
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#13 Edited by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
fesak said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Omega Level Mutants
Mad Jim Jaspers
Jean Grey\Phoenix
Iceman
Vulcan
Franklin Richards
X-Man
Elixir
Kid Omega
Darwin
Mister M
Mr.Immortal

Potential
Dazzler
Storm
Magneto
Marvel Girl
Scarlet Witch
Mysterious Fanboy
Exodus
Synch
Gaia
Jaime Braddock
Decibel (before depowered)
Goblin Queen
Cable
Shadow King

"


Several of these are not Omega. There are only eight confirmed Omega-Level mutants."
I wasn't saying they were all confirmed.I was saying I think they all should be Omega.
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#14 Posted by fesak (7052 posts) - - Show Bio

Why does it matter?

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#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
fesak said:
"Why does it matter?"
It doesn't really but the thread is here...and i'm bored.
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#16 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?

#17 Posted by Iron Maiden (364 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"She's not dead, per endsong she was resurrected and took her body along for the ride to the White Hot Room, and is now able to operate throughout all of creation is in a place immune to the chaos wave and is now arguably the most powerful being his marvel history, hows that make you feel, and out of all the omegas is the only one who has actually gone beyond the term unlimited potential to the term unlimited power."
She still sucks, and she as the personality of an sloth. There are way to many Jean Grey fan boys working in the x-offics over at marvel.
#18 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?"
No...but if Elixir is then he should be.
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#19 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"John Valentine said:
"Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?"
No...but if Elixir is then he should be."
Why would darwin be omega?
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#20 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"John Valentine said:
"Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?"
No...but if Elixir is then he should be."
Elixir was confirmed though....
#21 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"John Valentine said:
"Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?"
No...but if Elixir is then he should be."
Elixir was confirmed though....
#22 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Vance Astro said:
"John Valentine said:
"Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?"
No...but if Elixir is then he should be."
Elixir was confirmed though...."
He was or he wasn't?
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#23 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"Vance Astro said:
"John Valentine said:
"Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?"
No...but if Elixir is then he should be."
Why would darwin be omega?"
Instantaneous Adaptation.
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#24 Posted by fesak (7052 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"She's not dead, per endsong she was resurrected and took her body along for the ride to the White Hot Room, and is now able to operate throughout all of creation is in a place immune to the chaos wave and is now arguably the most powerful being his marvel history, hows that make you feel, and out of all the omegas is the only one who has actually gone beyond the term unlimited potential to the term unlimited power."

This is just fanboyism at it's finest.
How can anything go beyond unlimited?
And most powerful in marvel history? Just no. Any high-level cosmic entity could erase her from reality without trying.
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#25 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
fesak said:
"Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"She's not dead, per endsong she was resurrected and took her body along for the ride to the White Hot Room, and is now able to operate throughout all of creation is in a place immune to the chaos wave and is now arguably the most powerful being his marvel history, hows that make you feel, and out of all the omegas is the only one who has actually gone beyond the term unlimited potential to the term unlimited power."

This is just fanboyism at it's finest.
How can anything go beyond unlimited?
And most powerful in marvel history? Just no. Any high-level cosmic entity could erase her from reality without trying."
LMFAO!
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#26 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"John Valentine said:
"Vance Astro said:
"John Valentine said:
"Darwin's not a confirmed Omega is he?"
No...but if Elixir is then he should be."
Elixir was confirmed though...."
He was or he wasn't?"
Elixir was confirmed Omega in an issue of New Mutants.
I would classify Darwin as potential Omega as at the moment he has little to no control of his power....
#27 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"there is no such thing as potenial omega, the omegas have always been omega, charles knew about Jean and Bobby from the start, Rachel was called on from the start and can host the Phoenix and use it's power as easilty as her own without being overshadowed by it, Mr. M has been called one since his appereance, same as Vulcan, Exlixer and Quentin.  I've heard about this Franklin richards confirmation but have yet to see it in ink (anybody know the issue title and number?)  Chamber has been described as potentially omega, but it doesn't make since because whatever unknown power he has now is not a result of his mutation but a result of a blood transfusion."
Yeah "potenial", as you put it, isn't even a word :P.
#28 Posted by fesak (7052 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't have the issue number where Franklin first was confirmed omega, still looking for it.
There is confirmation of him being omega in The 198 Files

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#29 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"John Valentine said:
"Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"there is no such thing as potenial omega, the omegas have always been omega, charles knew about Jean and Bobby from the start, Rachel was called on from the start and can host the Phoenix and use it's power as easilty as her own without being overshadowed by it, Mr. M has been called one since his appereance, same as Vulcan, Exlixer and Quentin.  I've heard about this Franklin richards confirmation but have yet to see it in ink (anybody know the issue title and number?)  Chamber has been described as potentially omega, but it doesn't make since because whatever unknown power he has now is not a result of his mutation but a result of a blood transfusion."
Yeah "potenial", as you put it, isn't even a word :P."

spelling aside there is still no such thing as potential omega you either are or you aren't."
YES THERE IS A SUCH THING AS POTENTIAL OMEGA.
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#30 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
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not in the capacity that it makes sense, it has been mentioned regarding Chamber his mutation was removed completely (Wandas warp made him human without any trace of mutation) and he was exposed to Apocs blood making him a mutate now.  Storm has been pushed beyond her limits and was nearly killed everytime and reverted right back to original power levels, omegas when pushed survive the experience and their powers stablize at the new level.

"
I have no idea what your talking about.
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#31 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
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I'm talking about the term potential omega which was first coined by fans and then used to describe Chamber, which is an inaccurate term to use since he is no longer a mutant, Storm too has been described by fans as potential omega which is not true because there are clear limits to what she can do with her powers and how much power she can channel without burning herself out.  The Shi'ar came to earth during endsong to stop the Phoenix from taking over an Omega so they went after Jean Grey and then Quentin, Storm was there and ignored.

"
Iron Man used it so it's a real term.End.
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#32 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"Iron Man is an expert in tech not biology and/or genetics, Beast and Xavier are the only authorities on the subject and they have never used it.  I know the term exists  I'm saying the type of beings it attempts to describe don't exist, if that's that case all mutants are potentially omega, even though it has more to do with than just power, lets use Cable, Xman and Rachel for example.  Both Cable and Xman have unlimited potential yet if they tap into this vast power their bodies can't handle it and they will eventually burn out, Rachels body on the other hand can handle the same level (and sometimes greater levels) of power and not be harmed."
So Iron Man is wrong...and your right?
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#33 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"from all other sources and from the research done by the foremost experts in the field of genetic mutation (Beast and Xavier) apparently so."
No.
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#34 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

When was Magneto described as Potential Omega?

#35 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"say what you want, you prove to me that whoever he said was "potential omega" is.  then you tell me why anybody should listen to what he says about mutants over two mutants and experts one of which originally coined the term omega mutant.  So to be a potential omega you have to first reach some unknown level to unlocked another door that leads right back to having potential power?  Is that how it works?  and that's why it makes no sense.  The term Omega level mutant means that the mutant has potential (among other things), so the term potential omega is redundant if not utterly nonsensical"
I don't even care anymore.
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#36 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"When was Magneto described as Potential Omega?"

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