Holocaust to return in Uncanny X-Force?

#1 Posted by Grendel (560 posts) - - Show Bio

He was in the preview art for the next issue on CBR.
 
It's possible it's a dream sequence, but god I hope not. Holocaust meeting his 616 dad is something I wanted to happen so badly a decade ago. I also hope he gets to slug it out with Stryfe.

#2 Posted by Edamame (28016 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grendel: That would be interesting, but I think that his ostensible return would have already been mentioned. It seems to me that Holocaust was more loyal to his "father", then Stryfe ever was.  Do you have this image or preview art?
#3 Posted by eldestrisk (623 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grendel: Image please. I haven't been able even to buy the first issue. =S
#4 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by mavfan626 (4118 posts) - - Show Bio

wait.. so if stryfe could be back and might mean that the four horsemen could be back to right???  
#6 Posted by fesak (6994 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice. I don't think they've used 616 Holocaust yet.

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#7 Posted by Grendel (560 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak:  I don't think it will be a 616 version of Holocaust only because how convoluted the process was of Nemesis turning into Holocaust. I'd say he survived being snorted up like Bolivian marching powder by Hyperion and is the AOA escapee.
 
@Edamame:  Unless it was meant to be a surprise. Holocaust was always more loyal but only because he wasn't going to be used a vessel. In "The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix" old-ass Apocalypse makes mention of outliving and outlasting his enemies and he cites Sinister and Holocaust. So I'd guess there's the possibility he could turn on him at one point.
 
 

#8 Posted by AMS (1387 posts) - - Show Bio

Sweet, will be happy if it's the real deal AOA Holocaust, he and the Exiles got a raw deal by Hyperion.
#9 Posted by Edamame (28016 posts) - - Show Bio
That is true. I don't think that Apocalypse likes or trusts anyone, except for himself. So he wouldn't mind just using both Stryfe and Holocaust. I would like to see Stryfe and Holocaust ganging up on Apocalypse. That would be a fun fight. Don't you think?
#10 Posted by DeimosMasque (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Holocaust was my favorite villain in the AoA I even played him on a MUX at one time.  If he's back in the 616 I'll do the "Dance of Joy"

#11 Posted by Edamame (28016 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup. It is time for Holocaust to meet is TP/TK brother.

#12 Posted by oldgum (322 posts) - - Show Bio

Then, will King Hyperion or members of Exiles appear?

#13 Posted by fesak (6994 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no logical reason for it to be earth-295 Holocaust

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#14 Posted by Jake Fury (17928 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak said:
"There's no logical reason for it to be earth-295 Holocaust "

QFT. 
 
If you use comic logic there has to be a 616 Holocaust we haven't seen yet.
#15 Posted by Grendel (560 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak:  I actually think it's less logical and more far-fetched to have 616 Apocalypse to have a kid for all this time and for not only nobody know about it and for him in to be in exact the same predicament of having to wear a containment suit due to injury. 
 
I'd have to find it, but Mike Carey mentioned once that with Holocaust's powers it was likely he survived being snorted up by Hyperion.
#16 Posted by HellionVulcan (3472 posts) - - Show Bio

awesome Holocaust was a cool villain just his "death" was lame glad it wasn't final & deadpool kicking him off logan come on lol ..

#17 Posted by fesak (6994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grendel said:
" @fesak:  I actually think it's less logical and more far-fetched to have 616 Apocalypse to have a kid for all this time and for not only nobody know about it and for him in to be in exact the same predicament of having to wear a containment suit due to injury.    I'd have to find it, but Mike Carey mentioned once that with Holocaust's powers it was likely he survived being snorted up by Hyperion. "
 
If he survived he would still need to find a way to get to the earth-616 reality. And why would he do that instead of going home to his own?
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#18 Posted by Grendel (560 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak:  Maybe he misses his daddy? The 295 one is toast.
#19 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio

hard to say either way.
as far as what happened to the AoA one sometimes stuff like that is easily (and usually cheaply) rewritten.
as for the containment suit his last to current one was actually a new replacement built in the 616 universe
for the one that was shattered by the M'kraan Crystal. guess we won't know until its official, and Holocaust 
rules anyways, so i'm down for what ever universe he's from.

#20 Posted by fesak (6994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grendel said:
" @fesak:  Maybe he misses his daddy? The 295 one is toast. "
In that case there's an infinite number of other realities to choose from.
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#21 Posted by Namor1987 (1879 posts) - - Show Bio

Has Hyperion died since then if so he could've been resurrected somehow without making a big deal or kinda kept a secret
#22 Posted by xerox_kitty (15760 posts) - - Show Bio

 

Apocalypse Doesn't Look Like This Any More..
The following pages from the preview showed various members of X-Force being killed... There's also an image of Apocalypse looking armoured & blue.  You shouldn't always believe what you see... 
We KNOW He Looks Like This Now.
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#23 Posted by Grendel (560 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty:  Oh, I mentioned it could possibly be a dream sequence in my initial post. I was just hoping it wasn't.
 
Oh, well. He'll eventually get brought back. They always do.

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