Why is she missing in the all female X-men #1?

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#51 Posted by akbogert (3224 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon: Hey, if it's good writing and X-23, I'm in.

That picture is all kinds of awesome. I actually just ran across New X-Men today and planned on adding it to my must-read list, and that was prior to knowing X-23 had a role in it.

Though...I wonder if perhaps she's getting a little old for teen books? Has Marvel aged her at all? Comic ages are so confusing.

#52 Posted by iceman228433 (65 posts) - - Show Bio

Dude yea I was wondering why X-23 is not in the new Female series and if some one says Avengers Arena I say who the F cares that thing is so bad, and a rip off.

#53 Posted by akbogert (3224 posts) - - Show Bio

@iceman228433: For the most part you may be preaching to the choir...but that's still the best excuse (in that it's the only reason Marvel would need).

#54 Posted by DarkxSeraph (672 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon said:

Tell You what man. If Brian Wood wants to bring back the New X-Men, and have X-23 on that run. I would be more than happy to have her there. That's where she needs to be.

This.

#55 Posted by Teerack (7066 posts) - - Show Bio

X-23 is like Wolverine and has drifted into Avenger land, and I like her there a lot better.

#56 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think she necessarily needs to be on this team, but I do love when she's teamed up with Jubilee.

#57 Posted by Lightburst (163 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: I would perfer X-23 get back with the X-Men Because I hate her near the avengers mainly because I dislike a lot of the Avengers and It would make sense to keep the blood clone of Wolverine near the X-Men. we don't need another clawed hero everywhere we look.

And her with Jubliee and Psylocke would be so awesome!

#58 Posted by Simpson (16 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm excited for this book and I hope X-23 isn't in it.

#59 Posted by Teerack (7066 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lightburst: For her personal character it makes a lot more sense for her to be away from the x-men. She has a lot of baggage with the x-men and her solo series was all about her moving on, so i think it would be a huge step back fro her to just rejoin the x-men.

#60 Edited by DarkxSeraph (672 posts) - - Show Bio

Her solo series was... bad. I didn't like virtually anything I read in it.

She was evolving well, and naturally there before the end of the New x-Men series. Taking her off in this direction and using her series to 'sever ties' was... just dumb, imo. And if she was getting 'away' from them, then why the Best Buds with Jubilee and mentorship of Remy? It makes no sense. (Edit: It makes sense in the term that everyone is saying how Gambit and Jubilation are Liu's pet characters--way to be, Liu. way to be.)

To be honest, she's a mutant. Clone or not. Her home is in the X-Books. Just like all the others are. They fit best there because that is where the themes that created them are. Taking her and throwing her in the avengers, imo, is just standardizing her to the rest of the MU and with fans who may not even know a single thing about her past, nor care, and with writers/editors who had nothing to do with her evolution into something good.

#61 Posted by Lightburst (163 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceIMC: na X-23 is same Era as Pixie she came about in 2003 Comic book and Animation.

@Simpson: WhyunolikeX-23?

#62 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

I also want X-23 on the team.

#63 Posted by akbogert (3224 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkxSeraph said:

Her solo series was... bad. I didn't like virtually anything I read in it.

She was evolving well, and naturally there before the end of the New x-Men series. Taking her off in this direction and using her series to 'sever ties' was... just dumb, imo. And if she was getting 'away' from them, then why the Best Buds with Jubilee and mentorship of Remy? It makes no sense. (Edit: It makes sense in the term that everyone is saying how Gambit and Jubilation are Liu's pet characters--way to be, Liu. way to be.)

To be honest, she's a mutant. Clone or not. Her home is in the X-Books. Just like all the others are. They fit best there because that is where the themes that created them are. Taking her and throwing her in the avengers, imo, is just standardizing her to the rest of the MU and with fans who may not even know a single thing about her past, nor care, and with writers/editors who had nothing to do with her evolution into something good.

I quite agree. Based on what I've read (and I've been trying to read a lot), Liu's take on Laura was the weakest (though it had its moments, and the art was consistently pretty good) and didn't exactly make sense. I thought the final issue of that run was absolutely terrible, though maybe I'm just not high-minded or artsy enough to have appreciated it.

...fans who may not even know a single thing about her past, nor care, and with writers/editors who had nothing to do with her evolution into something good.

THIS. So much this.

#64 Posted by Mercy_ (92857 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate Marvel sometimes :(

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#65 Posted by DarkxSeraph (672 posts) - - Show Bio

@akbogert said:

@DarkxSeraph said:

Her solo series was... bad. I didn't like virtually anything I read in it.

She was evolving well, and naturally there before the end of the New x-Men series. Taking her off in this direction and using her series to 'sever ties' was... just dumb, imo. And if she was getting 'away' from them, then why the Best Buds with Jubilee and mentorship of Remy? It makes no sense. (Edit: It makes sense in the term that everyone is saying how Gambit and Jubilation are Liu's pet characters--way to be, Liu. way to be.)

To be honest, she's a mutant. Clone or not. Her home is in the X-Books. Just like all the others are. They fit best there because that is where the themes that created them are. Taking her and throwing her in the avengers, imo, is just standardizing her to the rest of the MU and with fans who may not even know a single thing about her past, nor care, and with writers/editors who had nothing to do with her evolution into something good.

I quite agree. Based on what I've read (and I've been trying to read a lot), Liu's take on Laura was the weakest (though it had its moments, and the art was consistently pretty good) and didn't exactly make sense. I thought the final issue of that run was absolutely terrible, though maybe I'm just not high-minded or artsy enough to have appreciated it.

Not gonna lie... the Julian bit pissed me right the hell off.

#66 Edited by akbogert (3224 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkxSeraph: I was actually referring to the wordless, one with the wolves thing, but yeah, kicking Hellion to the curb was kinda crappy too. The way it was done I almost got the sense Liu was gonna have Laura batting for the other team (though it could have simply been just what she said, that he wasn't the one for her). Regardless, it came out of nowhere. *shrug*

I was going to say we're way off-topic here, but I'm not positive there's anything left of the topic anymore as Arena is the important deal-breaker.

#67 Posted by Pyrogram (40922 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_ said:

I hate Marvel sometimes :(

I think we all have a reason once in a while :P

#68 Posted by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - - Show Bio

The team has an 80's feel that she would take away from. I'm for Dazzler, but X-23 needs to go do her thing somewhere else. Though killing off alot of teen character less popular is not what I would have done with her.

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