Yeah, they would have to have the exact same DNA to be a clone, but seeing as she's a girl... i dunno, "genetic duplicate" does make more sense.

Yea...so...lusting after her is uncool....

The genetic material was not altered. It is a perfect genetic duplicate. It is only missing the y chromosome. Nothing was altered other than removing the damaged material. 

"Yea...so...lusting after her is uncool...."

"Vance Astro said:

"Yea...so...lusting after her is uncool...."

Lusting after any ficctional character is uncool :P."

"John Valentine said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Yea...so...lusting after her is uncool...."

Lusting after any ficctional character is uncool :P."

Yea..that's more or less what I meant.I can see liking a character.I like Spider-Woman but I don't actually fantasize about her.It stops with the comics."

Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means.

"Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means."

"erik said:

"Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means."

She's a she...that proves she's not a clone."

"Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means."

The blue eye trait is actually a polygenic trait. 

"The blue eye trait is actually a polygenic trait. "

Brown eyes are dominant over blue this is true but it is not such a black and white picture. Blue eyes are not exactly defined as recessive. That is an oversimplification. That actual means of defining blue eyes is polygenic meaning that blue eyes come into being from several genes interacting. It has to get the combination right or brown. But no, blue eyes are not a recessive trait by the definition of recessive. 

Of course my point is that the genetic material that was needed to make the right combination for the blue eyes may have been missing and instead only had a combination for green eyes. The simple point is that X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been missing the Y chromosome himself. They added nothing and changed nothing. They used exactly what was his only without the damaged Y chromosome.

"John Valentine said:

"Paint said:

"Vance Astro said:

"aztek the lost said:

"Vance Astro said:

"warbandit said:

"well... I think ...Laura is not a 100% clone from Logan...because she have green eyes (Wolvie have Blue) like her "Mother" ...It is like a Daughter of Sarah and Wolvie,,,

Sorry for my bad english"

We know this."

o_O I didn't...

why does everyone call her a clone if she's not actually a clone???"

Because people have trouble comprehending what they read."

Sorry for replying again, because clearly I don't know what I'm talking about, but surely she can't count as a child of Wolverine. There is no garantee that a child of a mutant will have the same powers as the parent, though obviously that does occur, e.g. Wallflower. But look at Molly Hayes from the Runaways. Her parents were telepaths and her ability is super strength. X-23 was genetically engineered from Wolverine's X chromosome, I don't understand why that doesn't still count as a a clone."

A clone is a genetically identical organism. X-23 is not genetically identical and thus she is not a clone."

Well...She is a clone but no 100%"

"Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means."

"erik said:

"Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means."

She was Implanted into Sarah. That would make Sarah DNA also a part of her. If you implant a women in today's world without having sex, than that woman also gives that child her DNA."

"erik said:

"Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means."

She was Implanted into Sarah. That would make Sarah DNA also a part of her. If you implant a women in today's world without having sex, than that woman also gives that child her DNA."

"Giuseppe Riccadonna said:

"erik said:

"Everyone references her eyes as proof that she is not a genetic duplicate or a clone (whatever your preferred terminology is). The eyes unfortunately do not mean very much. The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs, which is approximately two percent of a human beings DNA. Missing two percent of DNA may not sound like much but in the genetic world, it is quite a bit. It is likely that was why they had to make multiple attempts before having a viable subject. In that missing two percent of DNA there may have been the genetic coding necessary to have blue eyes. Further more, there is no way Weapon X would have let Dr. Kinney add her own genetic material to the subject. That would have polluted the whole project. X-23 is exactly what Wolverine would have been had he been a female. That is all genetic duplicate means."

She was Implanted into Sarah. That would make Sarah DNA also a part of her. If you implant a women in today's world without having sex, than that woman also gives that child her DNA."

Not if she's a surrogate. That's when an already created embryo is implanted into the womb, if some of the surrogate's DNA became part of the embryo, there would be major court cases everywhere about who was the biological mother. X-23 was already an embryo when she was implanted into Dr Kinney. She'd have to be, or the project would have no control over the genetic traits the resulting child would have. She could have grown horns and breathed fire for all the scientists knew, if they hadn't already ensured her genetic heritage."

She is wolverine minus a Y Chromosome. Idk something just seems wrong about that

The thing I like about X-23 is she looks more like a fighter than a woman who's only meant to look pretty in comics.

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meh, not my type of woman

bit too young for my tastes as well

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I know I'm a young woman as well, and I am also in the same age range, I have to say that she is beautiful. I envy her characterization and her fighting skills compared to mine.
She is not a "clone" as you may imagine one being... her "creators" manipulated James Howletts DNA to a type of...I guess you can say sperm...to fertilize Dr. Kinneys egg so she can birth out X-23, or Laura Kinney.

i think She IS effin HOT!! =D

HOT HOT HOT
I'm in love and I'm a straight girl.

I do :P

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King of Kings says:

"Isnt she like 14?"

ewwwww

Gottheit says:

"I don't buy the youth arguement in this case. Let's look at the facts. She is a trained assassin, and the human mind is not naturally geared toward butchering our own kind. I dunno, most other girls her age would be too young, and I wouldn't be comfortable with a youthful character like that being written in a sexual way at all, but I just feel that if you are able to decide to *take* life, which isn't natural, then you're qualified to decide if you want to *make* life, which is what nature intended for us."

EWWWWW

"

This thread=worthless.

.....and two years later, this thread still has one of the weirdest titles that intend to be taken seriously on ComicVine.

SPARDA!!!!!

I would lust after her, she's cute and nice (at times)

" I would lust after her, she's cute and nice (at times) "

" @War Killer said:

" I would lust after her, she's cute and nice (at times) "

You mean you would lust after her if she was real? "

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SPARDA!!!!!

"

" @Vance Astro said:

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SPARDA!!!!!

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That's my name! "

" @Sparda said:

" @Vance Astro said:

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SPARDA!!!!!

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That's my name! "

Where have Yoooooou been?  "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Sparda said:

" @Vance Astro said:

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SPARDA!!!!!

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That's my name! "

Where have Yoooooou been?  "

School......it's my last year of high school and I'm surprised to find that I'm going to miss it next year. 11 years of hating school and then I come to appreciate it on the last year......it's not fair :( "

"LOL.I forgot you were still in High School. "

not i. i see her like a little sister. i think thats part of what makes her cool.
i dont think alot of readers are supposed to see her as sexy, more just a young girl.
its what makes her dangerous. hers this young girl, that is a foremost killing machine,
ready to be underestimated and sporting one of the best disguises possible.
not hot to me here, but defiantly she is awesome and kicks alot of arse! one
of my favorite new comic characters ever since Target X, and solidified by
the end of Messiah War.

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I love her as a character, but don't lust after her, she's more badass than most male characters.

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Your mom lusts after her! ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! .... yeah I'm bored!

Lusting...over a comic book character ?....sigh

this topic creeps me the hell out.