Question regarding X-23's Healing Factor

#1 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

How does x-23's healing factor compare to the following characters' healing factors? :
 
1. Wolverine
2. Daken
3. Deadpool
4. Wendigo
5. Sabretooth
6. Lady Deathstrike

#2 Posted by Vallary (60 posts) - - Show Bio

She's way smaller (it means her organs are healing faster) and doesn't have poisoning metal in her body, so I'd say way better that Wolverine's. Probably better than Daken's, he's been out after being hit ridiculously soft - for example when Emma Frost attacked him. But I don't know. She's still smaller, though, and the healing power probably does not get better with the age, it stays the same. Plus - she can withstand so much pain, many grownup men would go in the shock after. I didn't see Daken being tortured the way she was - and that since her very childhood.
Deadpool is stronger, I think. And Lady Deathstrike prooved she can't do shit comparing to Laura, it was a strategical win, yes, but I guess Laura's healing factor was still better.
Do not give a crap about Sabretooth and Wendigo.

#3 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vallary: X-23 has the adamantium which puts her healing factor to work and makes her healing factor less efficient.  Same goes for Wolverine.
#4 Posted by kimmycat (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks said:
" @Vallary: X-23 has the adamantium which puts her healing factor to work and makes her healing factor less efficient.  Same goes for Wolverine. "
If I'm not mistaken, her claws are the only thing that are coated with adamantium. And her arm got cut off but she managed to grow it back, so I say her healing factor is pretty good :)
#5 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@kimmycat: So her bones are not adamantium?
#6 Posted by kimmycat (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks: I don't think so. The Facility never got a chance to do her whole skeleton.
#7 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@kimmycat: Okay. So just the claws then. You said one of her two hands was cut off. Did it re-grow as bone claws or?
#8 Edited by kimmycat (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks:
Oh no it was just one arm lol. And the arm grew back but before that she took out her claws herself in X-Force #20. But in Necrosha she asked Dr. James Bradley to put them back in. :) 
#9 Posted by danhimself (22212 posts) - - Show Bio
@kimmycat:  her arm didn't grow back...they reattached it and her claws had to grow back because she cut out her adamantium claws
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#10 Posted by kimmycat (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
" @kimmycat:  her arm didn't grow back...they reattached it and her claws had to grow back because she cut out her adamantium claws "
I thought she burned her arm?
#11 Posted by danhimself (22212 posts) - - Show Bio
@kimmycat said:
" @danhimself said:
" @kimmycat:  her arm didn't grow back...they reattached it and her claws had to grow back because she cut out her adamantium claws "
I thought she burned her arm? "

nope..it was cut off with a chain saw by Kimura
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#12 Posted by danhimself (22212 posts) - - Show Bio

never mind kimmycat you were right she did burn it ....so i guess it did grow back...my bad 
 
I'm beginning to think that 60 books a month is affecting my memory
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#13 Posted by kimmycat (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
" @kimmycat said:
" @danhimself said:
" @kimmycat:  her arm didn't grow back...they reattached it and her claws had to grow back because she cut out her adamantium claws "
I thought she burned her arm? "
nope..it was cut off with a chain saw by Kimura "
Yeah, and then she burned it afterward in X-Force 20. And in Necrosha she tells Logan that it's "nearly done regrowing."
#14 Posted by kimmycat (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself: Oh no worries :) 60?! You must be rich lol.
#15 Edited by Vallary (60 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself: 
I don't know what comics you read, but she actually did burn her hand. And grew new one back. And with bone claws intact. Do not inform people and get into a discussion unless you are sure of what you're talking about.
#16 Posted by MSBoyd23 (112 posts) - - Show Bio

X-23 also cut off one of her hands, then stuck it back on when Kimura had her handcuffed and was threatening Megan.

#17 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vallary: Okay. So now she just has bone claws. Who put the adamantium claws in her? Weapon X? Were her claws the only things that were adamantium in her body?         %Pr
#18 Posted by danhimself (22212 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vallary:  maybe you should have read the rest of my posts before you felt it was necessasary to try and correct me....I already apologized to kimmycat (the person I was talking to in the first place) for getting mixed up
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#19 Posted by xerox_kitty (15761 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks said:
" @Vallary: Okay. So now she just has bone claws. Who put the adamantium claws in her? Weapon X? Were her claws the only things that were adamantium in her body?         %Pr "
She still has her Adamantium claws.  She detatched them from her severed arm on purpose, and has requested that he bone claws be surgically removed, to replace them with her Adamantium ones.  Off-hand I can't remember if they managed to re-attach them before the Hellions attacked.
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#20 Posted by Vallary (60 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks: Yes, her skeleton is not laced with adamantium, she was a child when it was done, so it would be stupid to force her skeleton to stay small when her body was still growing - it would deform her body too much. The Facility planned for tomorrow and never thought Laura would ever escape, so the thought they had time.
#21 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

Rank above healing factors.

#22 Posted by LauraXx23 (88 posts) - - Show Bio
@kimmycat said:
" @cracks said:
" @Vallary: X-23 has the adamantium which puts her healing factor to work and makes her healing factor less efficient.  Same goes for Wolverine. "
If I'm not mistaken, her claws are the only thing that are coated with adamantium. And her arm got cut off but she managed to grow it back, so I say her healing factor is pretty good :) "
You are right
#23 Posted by Sharkgirl93 (32 posts) - - Show Bio
@MSBoyd23: She didn't 'stick' her hand back on, it regrew.
#24 Posted by MSBoyd23 (112 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sharkgirl93: Target X #5: 
 
She cut it off...   
 
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
She stuck it back on. 
 
 
#25 Edited by Erik (31420 posts) - - Show Bio

So many X-23 fans that are so unsure of one of her most basic features. No she does not have an adamantium skeleton, yes all six of her claws are coated with adamantium, she has said that Wolverine heals too slow herself and Sabretooth has a better one than Wolverine. I would arrange the healing abilities in this order but I admit, I am unsure of where to place Wendigo. He has been slaughtered by Sabretooth so I will assume his is not that great. 

  1. Deadpool - Healing factor that is faster than Wolverine's and Sabretooth's. On top of that, he has been cursed with life by Thanos.
  2. Sabretooth - Wolverine has said that his healing factor is better and that was before at least two of his power upgrades.
  3. X-23 - Does have adamantium claws so there is a small amount that her body is trying to expel. She has also stated that Wolverine heals too slow, easily indicating that she heals faster. 
  4. Wolverine - Adamantium skeleton. There are three things that prevent his healing factor from running at optimum performance: Prevention of his bones to make new red blood cells, therefore relying on his healing factor to do it for him, adamantium poisoning, and a massive foreign object in his body. However, since his adamantium was placed in his body by Apocalypse, he has not displayed signs that the first two are problems anymore when his healing factor has been shut off. It is entirely possible that Apocalypse has bonded a better quality of adamantium to his bones that does not poison him as well as a better bonding process that does not hinder the production of red blood cells. If that is true, his body is just coping with 100lbs of foreign material in his body at all times. 
  5. Daken - He falls short of his father because of the time Bullseye blew him up, Daken required days just to regain consciousness, let alone be healthy enough to move or fight. 
  6. Wendigo - Sabretooth has comparable powers but obviously Sabretooth is better if he took on both Wendigo and Sasquatch and still killed and skinned Wendigo. 
  7. Lady Deathstrike - Her healing factor has never been known to be that impressive. 
#26 Posted by Erik (31420 posts) - - Show Bio

Thought this was worthy of more discussion. 

#27 Edited by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: 
not much from my end, i think you hit it on the nail.  

except Wendigo varies and can be anywhere on the list at times. 
sometime, especially the Classic incarnation that fought Hulk and Wolverine
healed instantly and note, could not be killed by any means other than magic.
depends which Wendy.). the " one " Sabretooth killed was a lamer, weaker one, 
as more would emerge. the OP im guessing was referring to the one from Incredible 
Hulk #162, as its the one called upon when the character is named.
the "true" Wendigo as it where would have destroyed Creed.
 
edit to clarify: Wendigo are in other words both a race, and the names of several characters,
as all members call themselves and each other Wendigo, which is about the only word in
their vocabulary for everything, and in different instances where different characters.

should also be noted since this was started for use in Battle threads,
that the difference in most of these characters hf's actually either isnt that great, 
nor does it make a heap of difference. like DP's immortality for example.
Wolverine has been reduced to nothing, more than once now, and 
grew back. Hulk has pulled the same schtick, ect. in other words, 
Sabretooth doesnt actually beat Wolverine because he heals faster.
#28 Posted by Erik (31420 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE:  
Yeah. Wendigo was the one I just could not place with confidence. Although since its healing is from magic, should it even have a place on this thread? Personally, I would rather have Angel and Hulk on here than Wendigo. 
#29 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: 
i agree on the magic end. most people arent familiar with that though, same as Sasquatch who also varies, 
especially in his strength scale. cant blame them though, the Wendigo bio here is a mess. theres also the fact
that most bio's list Wendigo's history, when most showings are of different characters.
#30 Posted by Erik (31420 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE:  
I plan to bump the best healing factor thread with this list but I would like a placing of Hulk and Angel. Any thoughts on where to stick them?
#31 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: 
not really. Hulk varies, but he's at least equal to Sabretooth or better than 
and has  pulled the grow back from nothing deal (though it was an alternate future, it seems agreed
upon). he also has grown back a hand in minutes after it was severed. 
 
Angels showings for every area
are too inconsistent with the exception of aerial combat of course, so
ive never been able to place him, and he seems to change every year
or two.
#32 Posted by Erik (31420 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE:  
How long did it take for Hulk to heal after Sentry/Void broke nearly every bone in his body?
#33 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: 
uncertain. but like i said he varies, so there really isnt a level. in one instance 
Hulks durability has been so high for example that he was unscratched by a 
a direct nuke. he's an amper, and develops powersets when he needs to to, 
with no cap to his levels, and has had different abilities as well depending on 
what version and what was effecting him at the time. he's more akin to characters
like Darwin or Doomsday whereas he's in a constant state of flux and evolve, so
theres no actual way to say what his defined levels are.
#34 Posted by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

X-23's healing factor works more efficiently than Wolverine's, because she has adamantium only only on her claws.

#35 Posted by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio
@MSBoyd23:  @Sharkgirl93:   In X-Force X-23 regrew her arm in time after Kimura had severed it from her body. So yes, Laura can do it. 
#36 Posted by MSBoyd23 (112 posts) - - Show Bio
@mira: Yeah, that was never in dispute.
#37 Posted by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio
@MSBoyd23 said:

" @mira: Yeah, that was never in dispute. "

I like X-23. I hope she'll in a movie.  For example with Wolverine, X-men or Deadpool. 
#38 Posted by 84taskmaster84 (50 posts) - - Show Bio


well i would think X-23 is about....#2 on that list next to wendigo DP have a huge cancer problem and i think that effects his healing sabertooth might be tied but decap took him out lady death strike really lol X-23 worked her lol i think logan only beats DS Daken will tie with sabertooth now DP is trickey his healing factor comes from wolverines but is said to be better i dont get that the cancer thing should slow it down and since he got it from wolvie he should have the same limits but again not sure i dont read much DP but all in all

 

1.Wendigo

2.X-23

3.Deadpool

4.daken/Sabertooth

5.Wolverine

6.Lady Deathstrike

#39 Posted by The_Peter_Cosmic (401 posts) - - Show Bio
@84taskmaster84:  I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the cancer is gone and it's actually his healing factor that causes the uncontrolled cell growth. Where other characters healing factors kick in when they get injured, I think his wants to keep going generating and replacing more and more tissue even when he's healthy. Deadpool hardly bats an eye when he's decapitated to I'd put him at number 1.
#40 Posted by 84taskmaster84 (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Peter_Cosmic
ok since you know more about deadpool than me i just wanna ask ya some stuff. Was he really cursed by thanos to eternal life.I think deadpool is ok and i dont read much or keep up on him so i just want more info.If he is cursed then being decapped is irrelivent the rate that he heals at is the point right? how long till he regrows a new head or body?Or does that matter if wolvie or X-23 had the same curse who would be faster?Maybe im splitting hairs but its just something i wanna know does the curse if any count to his healing or do we consider it something else

#41 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@84taskmaster84: Yes, it seems he was.  Thanos is Jealous because 'death' is his great love and he (Thanos) Can't seem to die and be with her... Also, Death seems to appreciate all the souls that deadpool has sent her way and that made Thanos Jealous.  He wants to make sure Deadpool can never join Death...
#42 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks: First of all, Laura's DNA is IDENTICAL to Logan's with the exception of one chromosome.  The scientist who engineered Laura had all of Logan's DNA except for his Y chromosome.  As most of us know, for the Sex Chromosomes women have two X chromosomes whereas men have an X and a Y chromosome.  Dr. Laura Kinney took one of her own X chromosomes and paired it with Logan's X chromosome... That is why Laura is female...

So, note that other than that one chromosome (and the Y chromosome is the smallest of them all)  she is genetically IDENTICAL to Logan...

Also note, that the gene(s) for the healing factor are NOT on the Y chromosome... If they were, then Laura would NOT have inherited Logan's healing ability... at all...

So, the point of all that.... Laura's healing factor is IDENTICAL, in every way, to Logan's.  It is not more powerful, it is the same...  HOWEVER, she does heal faster, as a number of people mentioned, because she has very little Adamantium in her body compared to Logan.  His ENTIRE skeleton is fused to adamantium, whereas only her claws are fused to adamantium...  So, while her healing factor is identical in power level, she heals much faster than he does...

Deadpools healing factor leaves Logan's in the dust, but this has something to do with how it works with his cancer cells....

Sabertooth APPEARS to have a faster healing factor, but this makes no sense as he theoretically would not have been able to survive the process of adamantium fusion...
#43 Posted by sifsclub (474 posts) - - Show Bio
@Timandm: Didn't apocalypse or somebody give him tin bones once?
#44 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@sifsclub: Not that I KNOW but it's entirely possible...I sort of hate stories involving apocalypse and tend to shy away from them...

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