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With the announcement that Zeus is being made the father of Wonder Woman, I'm curious if that's the god people would've preferred. Select your pick for Wonder Woman's father. Named options were pulled from all male members of the Twelve Olympians.
I'm going with Hephaestus because I feel like he never gets any love and it would provide a reason for her to have all the magical bling.
Eh, IMO, the king of Olympus makes as much sense as her father than anyone else. Although I prolly would have preferred Hades, the god of the underworld if it hadn't been slightly out-of-character for him to cheat on his wife and get away with it (myth-wise, at least).
@Mutant God said:
Hercules
Interesting. Wasn't he a bad guy in the old WW lore?
Superman, Batman, and Steve Trevor. Like a sitcom yes? Well, that and a rip off of Three Men and a Baby. With the added extra advantage of those three characters automatically being excluded as romantic interests forever more, just cause yeah no, I never want to see that in any context. Plus then any angle they play about Superman being her inspiration can be met with a well duh, he's her dad come back. #WIN.
I picked Hephestus for several reasons. 1 he's my favorite and thus the right answer. 2 he's actually like the nicest god because he learned humility early and is scarred. 3 like th OP said not only would it let WW wear magic bling but Heph would make his little girl more magic bling. 4 WW would get fire powers = Awesome. 5 it makes her Zeus and Hera's grandaughter. 6 it makes her enimes with Aphrodite because this means Hephestus cheated on her. 7 It makes wonder girl her aunt.......well it should but Lobdell F'd it up
Superman, Batman, and Steve Trevor. Like a sitcom yes? Well, that and a rip off of Three Men and a Baby. With the added extra advantage of those three characters automatically being excluded as romantic interests forever more, just cause yeah no, I never want to see that in any context. Plus then any angle they play about Superman being her inspiration can be met with a well duh, he's her dad come back. #WIN.

@iLLituracy said:
@SC said:Superman, Batman, and Steve Trevor. Like a sitcom yes? Well, that and a rip off of Three Men and a Baby. With the added extra advantage of those three characters automatically being excluded as romantic interests forever more, just cause yeah no, I never want to see that in any context. Plus then any angle they play about Superman being her inspiration can be met with a well duh, he's her dad come back. #WIN.This should be done.
lol!
Hercules would have made sense I guess...
I remember reading somewhere that Hades was her father...
@fodigg: Ah, that must be it then, I still think Hades would be a good choice.
Hades. it would make Diana's love and compassion even more amazing because no one would expect it from the daughter of the lord of the underworld
@Aqua11500 said:
lol none,they are screwing up with this.
Seconded.
Hercules is Wonder Woman's father............................................................................................................ http://www.jestersjoker.com/Hercules_is_Wonder_Womans_Father.pdf
@BlackArmor said:
I picked Hephestus for several reasons. 1 he's my favorite and thus the right answer. 2 he's actually like the nicest god because he learned humility early and is scarred. 3 like th OP said not only would it let WW wear magic bling but Heph would make his little girl more magic bling. 4 WW would get fire powers = Awesome. 5 it makes her Zeus and Hera's grandaughter. 6 it makes her enimes with Aphrodite because this means Hephestus cheated on her. 7 It makes wonder girl her aunt.......well it should but Lobdell F'd it up
Hephestus aka the only Greek god who isn't a complete asshole. My favorite as well. Otherwise good points though I do love all the Hera drama that comes with Zeus being her Father.
SHE SHOULD HAVE TWO MOTHERS, EIther Hera or Athena and Hippolyta. Its a more beautiful story.
@Pokeysteve said:
@Aqua11500 said:
lol none,they are screwing up with this.Seconded.
@Aqua11500 said:
lol none,they are screwing up with this.
Thirded.
I voted Hades. Zeus was a close second. I just preferred Hades because of the animated series. It gives Wonder Woman an interesting twist because her dad is so evil, but she is so good.
I'm just happy that both the Zeus and Hades answers are beating "none" by a lot. Her having a dad is so much better and opens up more stories.
@Blood1991: @Blood1991 said:
@BlackArmor said:
I picked Hephestus for several reasons. 1 he's my favorite and thus the right answer. 2 he's actually like the nicest god because he learned humility early and is scarred. 3 like th OP said not only would it let WW wear magic bling but Heph would make his little girl more magic bling. 4 WW would get fire powers = Awesome. 5 it makes her Zeus and Hera's grandaughter. 6 it makes her enimes with Aphrodite because this means Hephestus cheated on her. 7 It makes wonder girl her aunt.......well it should but Lobdell F'd it up
Hephestus aka the only Greek god who isn't a complete asshole. My favorite as well. Otherwise good points though I do love all the Hera drama that comes with Zeus being her Father.
Yeah, I've enjoyed the way things have turned out with her being Zeus's kiHephestus would have been interesting but this is good too
@OutlawRenegade said:
I voted Hades. Zeus was a close second. I just preferred Hades because of the animated series. It gives Wonder Woman an interesting twist because her dad is so evil, but she is so good.
This.
It's a mixed bag for me. In a way by having Zeus as a father and making her a demigodess she kinda losses the one thing that really makes her special and stand out from other superheroes and that specialty wasn't because she was a woman. In the DVD commentary of the Wonder Woman tv series Linda carter stated that what made her special is that unlike superman or Spider-Man she wasn't given powers by being bitten or by being an alien from a distant planet, she earned it through hard work and determination alone. Having her as a demigodess severely underminds that and makes it more of its in her genes than its because she worked hard for it. At the same time not having any male involvement in her birth doesn't quite work for me. It severely down plays the importance of having a father and I'm sorry to say but there's no other word to describe it but its really sexist( and I really hate that word but there's no other word to use and that says a lot). The father doesn't have to be involved in her upbringing, the justice league animated series did it in a way that was faithful to what was in the comics before by having hades say that he helped carve the clay statue before he was banished to the underworld making the interesting revelation that she might have a father while keeping true to her previous origins and thinking about it I think the justice league animated series did a better job with the probability of whether or not Diana had a father than Brian azzarello did. The reason for that for me is that it makes her mother more sympathetic because she was raising her away from her father and not revealing it so that she would protect her from him and his influence and in a way it makes her pretty interesting because her father was pretty evil but she became a hero despite that which speaks volumes to me. To me if I was to vote on who should be her father it would be Hercules since it makes sense although the one from justice league is a close second.
I would have to say a mortal father would be best. It would give her a connection to Man' s world and create an great storyline with her relationship with her father. I know people are going to complain about how she got her powers. She could of been granted them after winning the contest by the Gods.
@Skewer said:
It's a mixed bag for me. In a way by having Zeus as a father and making her a demigodess she kinda losses the one thing that really makes her special and stand out from other superheroes and that specialty wasn't because she was a woman. In the DVD commentary of the Wonder Woman tv series Linda carter stated that what made her special is that unlike superman or Spider-Man she wasn't given powers by being bitten or by being an alien from a distant planet, she earned it through hard work and determination alone. Having her as a demigodess severely underminds that and makes it more of its in her genes than its because she worked hard for it. At the same time not having any male involvement in her birth doesn't quite work for me. It severely down plays the importance of having a father and I'm sorry to say but there's no other word to describe it but its really sexist( and I really hate that word but there's no other word to use and that says a lot). The father doesn't have to be involved in her upbringing, the justice league animated series did it in a way that was faithful to what was in the comics before by having hades say that he helped carve the clay statue before he was banished to the underworld making the interesting revelation that she might have a father while keeping true to her previous origins and thinking about it I think the justice league animated series did a better job with the probability of whether or not Diana had a father than Brian azzarello did. The reason for that for me is that it makes her mother more sympathetic because she was raising her away from her father and not revealing it so that she would protect her from him and his influence and in a way it makes her pretty interesting because her father was pretty evil but she became a hero despite that which speaks volumes to me. To me if I was to vote on who should be her father it would be Hercules since it makes sense although the one from justice league is a close second.
I don´t think you know what sexism means. Its like saying if you had a black character with two black paerents thats racist against whites. There is nothing sexist about the mythology of Goddess granting Queen Hippolyta a baby. Hera is the goddess of marriage and child birth, so obviously she had the power to do this, to transform the clay model to a child. Its a beautiful story, and it need not be changed. It affectively gave WW two mothers, which makes sense thematically with the story. And before you say it makes more sense a man being involved, because thats how it works in the real world, the last time I checked Gods of lightning do not exist and they certainly don´t take human form and seduce women, so that is equally as improbable as a Goddess granting Hippolyta her greatest wish and giving life to a clay model. Also, if people can understand the most famous story in the world, the story of Jesus, in which Mary is a virgin and "God" gives her a child, I don´t see why they can´t understand the WW story. The same as Pinochio. There are stories like this through out the history of story telling. Finally how on earth do you consider WW origin story sexist cause she doesn´t have a father? It doesn´t claim women are better than men. she interacts with men as her equal. she doesn´t hate men or treat them as some how less capable or inferior to her, that is what sexism is, I don´t know where you get this idea from. Leave WW origin like it is, and just deepen and explore the meaning of it, this father thing is crap and I´m a man and I don´t see anything wrong with her original story.
@jphulk26: Gender does not equal race. And A lot of Wonder Woman fans who say she should not have a father are shortchanging the positive and important role that fathers have in the creation of daughters. Hippolyta being a single mom alone shows that women don't need men to raise children, but let's not pretend that society doesn't need men--just like it needs women. The genders are equal.
@Captain13 said:
@jphulk26: Gender does not equal race. And A lot of Wonder Woman fans who say she should not have a father are shortchanging the positive and important role that fathers have in the creation of daughters. Hippolyta being a single mom alone shows that women don't need men to raise children, but let's not pretend that society doesn't need men--just like it needs women. The genders are equal.
Again how is WW´ story saying that men are not needed. her birth has absolutely nothing to do with that, by the way among the Gods who give her her powers I believe two were men, is that not sufficient for you. I really don´t get the objection, evryother super hero or heroine has a male mentor, WW was unique in that she didn´t she was trained by women and the product of a Goddess and a mortal, which has symbolic value, and is frankly a unique story. It has nothing to do with downplaying the importance of men.
Here´s the original Perrez story, please point out where it is sexist:
@jphulk26: Just switch the genders of all the characters.
Every man and woman has two parents. Giving Wonder Woman two makes her seem more human and relateable. It also explains the origin of her powers well i.e. why no other Amazon is on her level. And according to this poll, most peple want her to have a father, so...?
@Captain13 said:
@jphulk26: Just switch the genders of all the characters.
Every man and woman has two parents. Giving Wonder Woman two makes her seem more human and relateable. It also explains the origin of her powers well i.e. why no other Amazon is on her level. And according to this poll, most peple want her to have a father, so...?
Good for them, why not make superman a genetically enhanced human? after all being human makes him more relatable, and being genetically enhanced will explain his powers more, than his cells soaking in rays from earths yellow star. Most people who have voted on this probably have only read Azzerrelo´s run, so I don´t see it as an objective assessment of which take on her origin makes for the better story. Finally, your point was that the original story was sexist; again I see no `proof from you of this notion.
@jphulk26 said:
@Captain13 said:
@jphulk26: Just switch the genders of all the characters.
Every man and woman has two parents. Giving Wonder Woman two makes her seem more human and relateable. It also explains the origin of her powers well i.e. why no other Amazon is on her level. And according to this poll, most peple want her to have a father, so...?
Good for them, why not make superman a genetically enhanced human? after all being human makes him more relatable, and being genetically enhanced will explain his powers more, than his cells soaking in rays from earths yellow star. Most people who have voted on this probably have only read Azzerrelo´s run, so I don´t see it as an objective assessment of which take on her origin makes for the better story. Finally, your point was that the original story was sexist; again I see no `proof from you of this notion.
he doesn't need to be any more relatable than he already is. he is every bit more human than anyone else. he was also an outsider who i believe alot of comic book readers can relate to
@sethysquare said:
@jphulk26 said:
@Captain13 said:
@jphulk26: Just switch the genders of all the characters.
Every man and woman has two parents. Giving Wonder Woman two makes her seem more human and relateable. It also explains the origin of her powers well i.e. why no other Amazon is on her level. And according to this poll, most peple want her to have a father, so...?
Good for them, why not make superman a genetically enhanced human? after all being human makes him more relatable, and being genetically enhanced will explain his powers more, than his cells soaking in rays from earths yellow star. Most people who have voted on this probably have only read Azzerrelo´s run, so I don´t see it as an objective assessment of which take on her origin makes for the better story. Finally, your point was that the original story was sexist; again I see no `proof from you of this notion.
he doesn't need to be any more relatable than he already is. he is every bit more human than anyone else. he was also an outsider who i believe alot of comicbook readers can relate to.
But look at it this way. The general public might relate with her having a father.
@darkman61288: @sethysquare: Thats really not true, Superman for a long time in the 90s had the issue of being seen as unrelatable, because he was too powerful. People thought he was a perfect goody goody. Thats why they had the whole death of Superman story. That image has changed amongst comic fans cause of the great work that has been done by the comic writers to expand his mythos, and, look at the implications of what it would be to be superman, therefore deepening his character. Stuff like Birthright, Kingdom Come, Supèrman Red Son. These are landmark comics that made superman more appealing and sympathetic to comic readers; however still general audiences see superman as uncool now, Batman is seen as cooler cause he´s human, and the failure of the last superman movie shows that. Now the film Man Of Steel is going to bring people up to date with how comics have developed, and the superman comic book readers know. This is why DC needs to take a similar approach to WW. There is so much of her mythology that is simply not explored, really interesting aspects that would make her more interesting. Adding some more psychological realism to the character is what is needed, not what Azz is doing, which is basically making her story far more convaluted than it actually was, therefore alienating a lot of her core readership. DC simply aren´t going to get enough new readers back to make up for the core readers they´ve lost.
@Goddessa said:
No Father, immaculate conception by Hippolyta is better.
agreed.
@jphulk26: you're moving the goal post. first its relatable then its whos cooler.
you have no arguments here
@sethysquare said:
@jphulk26: you're moving the goal post. first its relatable then its whos cooler.
you have no arguments here
What? So being seen as cool doesn´t make a character relatable. Aren´t they kind of the same thing.
So lets try a new strategy, how about you tell me what your argument is, and I will cordially reply. Rather than having no arguments yourself, except for claiming the other side has no argument. Otherwise things can get rather circular.
@jphulk26 said:
@sethysquare said:
@jphulk26: you're moving the goal post. first its relatable then its whos cooler.
you have no arguments here
What? So being seen as cool doesn´t make a character relatable. Aren´t they kind of the same thing.
So lets try a new strategy, how about you tell me what your argument is, and I will cordially reply. Rather than having no arguments yourself, except for claiming the other side has no argument. Otherwise things can get rather circular.
we have done this before like a million times. i cant be bothered.
@sethysquare said:
@jphulk26 said:
@sethysquare said:
@jphulk26: you're moving the goal post. first its relatable then its whos cooler.
you have no arguments here
What? So being seen as cool doesn´t make a character relatable. Aren´t they kind of the same thing.
So lets try a new strategy, how about you tell me what your argument is, and I will cordially reply. Rather than having no arguments yourself, except for claiming the other side has no argument. Otherwise things can get rather circular.
we have done this before like a million times. i cant be bothered.
OK good call. Life is too short. :) no hard feelings.
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