Wonder Woman and Batwoman team up to fight... Medusa?

#1 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

BATWOMAN #13

Written by J.H. WILLIAMS III and W. HADEN BLACKMAN

Art and cover by J.H. WILLIAMS III

1:25 B&W Variant cover by J.H. WILLIAMS III

On sale OCTOBER 17 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T+

• Batwoman and Wonder Woman team up!

• Batwoman and Wonder Woman team up! (We’re so excited we had to say it twice!)

Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. The variant cover will feature the standard edition cover in a wraparound format.

· Batwoman and Wonder Woman team up to fight Medusa!

· Batwoman and Wonder Woman team up to fight Medusa! (We're so excited we had to say it twice!)

Is it this Medusa?

#2 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

yes I heard of this. I'll curious how this will turn out and how this will change these 2 as a character.

#3 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

probably it'll end up being a bad showing for wonder woman.

it would be great if they make medusa a powerful being,with super strength,super speed etc,then batwoman after facing her,she is completely outclased easily by medusa,so then they can make wonder woman play the key role,since she has god like powers and make a very good fight between 2 super powered beings;but no,probably wonder woman will treated poorly,she has god like powers,but probably medusa will totaly own her,and probably medusa will be just above humans,and still they will make her own wonder woman,and batwoman,a normal human will save the day,sorry i have a bad feeling,when a super powerd being teams up with a peak human,it's more likely that they'll make the super powered character look bad to give the other the spotligh,specially if it's wonder woman,she has the record of being treated poorly by most of the comic writters,sad but true.

#4 Posted by Shotgun (900 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh

#5 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700: I wasn't interested in this book before cos I don't really like batwoman. But I think I'll pick this up for Diana.

#6 Posted by 4_color_image (218 posts) - - Show Bio

At the end of this months Batwoman we see Medusa's green/ scaly hand so I am assuming this is the same Medusa from Greek mythology. I am sure with the creative team on Batwoman that Diana will be treated with the up most respect.

#7 Posted by jointron33 (1902 posts) - - Show Bio

I hooe to god Gokuwarrior is wrong, but considering some if the crappy Batman/Superman crossovers I've seen, that's unlikely.

#8 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

It would more impressive if they took away Medusa's mask. When taken away she broken girl. Killing her makes monsters since every time she blood creates monsters. It was just conspiracy to make mankind bow down to the gods.

#9 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: i'm a big fan of wonder woman,but even on her own comic she has been treated poorly many times,and outside her comic

is even worse,many times she is treated like the helper,or just the punching bag,most writters don't develop her properly,and DC doesn't promote her either,so things for her don't get any better,i want to have hope for her in this new 52,but i don't know,she still isn't going anywhere,it's sad,because she is the most iconic female,a powerhouse,and a very good character with much potential.

#10 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: my problem is with most of the writters,they make her power level inconsistent,and they never let her shine when superman and batman are around,most of the timer she is just the helper or the punching bag,while they do the important job,and DC never promotes her,after 71 years,what does she have?,one comic for month tha almost any other comic outsells now,a TV series,and one animated movie.

#11 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

probably it'll end up being a bad showing for wonder woman.

it would be great if they make medusa a powerful being,with super strength,super speed etc,then batwoman after facing her,she is completely outclased easily by medusa,so then they can make wonder woman play the key role,since she has god like powers and make a very good fight between 2 super powered beings;but no,probably wonder woman will treated poorly,she has god like powers,but probably medusa will totaly own her,and probably medusa will be just above humans,and still they will make her own wonder woman,and batwoman,a normal human will save the day,sorry i have a bad feeling,when a super powerd being teams up with a peak human,it's more likely that they'll make the super powered character look bad to give the other the spotligh,specially if it's wonder woman,she has the record of being treated poorly by most of the comic writters,sad but true.

you need to stop this.

DC is not sexist. You're just obsessed to make WW the most powerful person in the world.

Good story telling like the current Azzarello run isn't concerned about that. You remind me of those angry Superman fans that are upset that they depower Superman.

#12 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@gokuwarrior said:

probably it'll end up being a bad showing for wonder woman.

it would be great if they make medusa a powerful being,with super strength,super speed etc,then batwoman after facing her,she is completely outclased easily by medusa,so then they can make wonder woman play the key role,since she has god like powers and make a very good fight between 2 super powered beings;but no,probably wonder woman will treated poorly,she has god like powers,but probably medusa will totaly own her,and probably medusa will be just above humans,and still they will make her own wonder woman,and batwoman,a normal human will save the day,sorry i have a bad feeling,when a super powerd being teams up with a peak human,it's more likely that they'll make the super powered character look bad to give the other the spotligh,specially if it's wonder woman,she has the record of being treated poorly by most of the comic writters,sad but true.

you need to stop this.

DC is not sexist. You're just obsessed to make WW the most powerful person in the world.

Good story telling like the current Azzarello run isn't concerned about that. You remind me of those angry Superman fans that are upset that they depower Superman.

you said you wanted to make ww a solor system buster in the other thread. You only WW to be more like DBZ.

#13 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700 said:

@sethysquare said:

@gokuwarrior said:

probably it'll end up being a bad showing for wonder woman.

it would be great if they make medusa a powerful being,with super strength,super speed etc,then batwoman after facing her,she is completely outclased easily by medusa,so then they can make wonder woman play the key role,since she has god like powers and make a very good fight between 2 super powered beings;but no,probably wonder woman will treated poorly,she has god like powers,but probably medusa will totaly own her,and probably medusa will be just above humans,and still they will make her own wonder woman,and batwoman,a normal human will save the day,sorry i have a bad feeling,when a super powerd being teams up with a peak human,it's more likely that they'll make the super powered character look bad to give the other the spotligh,specially if it's wonder woman,she has the record of being treated poorly by most of the comic writters,sad but true.

you need to stop this.

DC is not sexist. You're just obsessed to make WW the most powerful person in the world.

Good story telling like the current Azzarello run isn't concerned about that. You remind me of those angry Superman fans that are upset that they depower Superman.

you said you wanted to make ww a solor system buster in the other thread. You only WW to be more like DBZ.

oh god thats funny. Haha.

#14 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: no i want her to be what she is supposed to be,a powerhouse and a skilful warrior that is part of the trinity,but writters don't show her like that,because when superman and batman are around,they put her aside,superman and batman make the important job,and save the day,while she is shown as the helper,or they treat her like a punching bag,while the other 2 take care of more important things.

if you like to see her being knocked by batman,owned by deathstoke,tagged and knocked out by humans,defeated by aquaman,taken down by a sand storm,defeated by,owned by clayface,etc,,and if you want to see her villans being humiliated by catwoman all the time,then fine,just keep supporting that,because that's what DC does to her most of the time,but for me,it's important that he most iconic female get to be written and treated properly.

#15 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700:

i just want her to be what she is supposed to be,a powerhouse and a skilful warrior that is part of the trinity,but writters don't show her like that,because when superman and batman are around,they put her aside,superman and batman make the important job,and save the day,while she is shown as the helper,or they treat her like a punching bag,while the other 2 take care of more important things.

if you like to see her being knocked by batman,owned by deathstoke,tagged and knocked out by humans,defeated by aquaman,taken down by a sand storm,defeated by poison ivy,owned by clayface,etc,,and if you want to see her villans being humiliated by catwoman all the time,then fine,just keep supporting that,because that's what DC does to her most of the time,but for me,it's important that he most iconic female get to be written and treated properly.

#16 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: I tried to find a wonder woman picture that looks like dragon ball z but i couldn't :( internet is sexist.

#17 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: it has nothing to do with dbz,you deny the fact that many street level chracters have humiliated her even with her god like power,the fact that superman dominates her easily most of the time,the fact,that batman can survive an attack from a bloodlusted superman,and knock wonder woman,like if wonder woman was nothing,and batman is also just human,you like to se her being treated like that?,well i don't.

#18 Posted by Amazon_Brigade (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

@moywar700:

i just want her to be what she is supposed to be,a powerhouse and a skilful warrior that is part of the trinity,but writters don't show her like that,because when superman and batman are around,they put her aside,superman and batman make the important job,and save the day,while she is shown as the helper,or they treat her like a punching bag,while the other 2 take care of more important things.

if you like to see her being knocked by batman,owned by deathstoke,tagged and knocked out by humans,defeated by aquaman,taken down by a sand storm,defeated by poison ivy,owned by clayface,etc,,and if you want to see her villans being humiliated by catwoman all the time,then fine,just keep supporting that,because that's what DC does to her most of the time,but for me,it's important that he most iconic female get to be written and treated properly.

When was she knocked by batman owned by deathstroke? tagged and knocked out defeated by aquaman ETC ETC?

#19 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@Amazon_Brigade: being owned by deathstroke,clayface,poison ivy,etc,there are all fights from WW v2,i don't remember the issues by the titles,but they are from WW v2,she also has bad showings in WW v3,the one where aquaman defeated her was in flashpoint,and she has bad showings in other comics outside her title,that's why i say that many writters treat her poorly.

#20 Edited by Amazon_Brigade (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: ok I read flashpoint and I am 100% sure aquaman did not defeat her. and I am skeptical of the other claims

#21 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@Amazon_Brigade: look it up,batman,clayface,poison ivy,deathstroke,they all gave her a very hard time.

#22 Posted by TAneT62 (1059 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets pray Diana is the one to take down Medusa, not some street level fighter who is far below Wonder Woman.

#23 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be funny if in the end Medusa hugs Batwoman because she is friendlier. Medusa is Greek Tragedy and Gotham has few of those in their city. How about Batwoman takes Pegasus this will help her get on the Bats good side. The Batgirls will like flying pony. I just want to hear “To the BatPegasus”.

#24 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@TAneT62: and let's hope that medusa is powerful,and has super strength,speed etc,so she won't make wonder woman look weak,diana is a powerhouse not a street level character.

#25 Posted by Goldenboy_Prime (172 posts) - - Show Bio

Hopefully they do WW justice and maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I don't think as of now they plan on making Kate upstage Diana even if it is her book. I could be wrong, but I'd like to think they'd do two of my favorite characters justice.

Batwoman # 12
#26 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@Goldenboy_Prime: if they make medusa a street level character and let her beat wonder woman,they will be humiliating wonder woman,so let's hope they don't make that to her.

#27 Posted by Hatutzeraze (269 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

if they make medusa a street level character and let her beat wonder woman,they will be humiliating wonder woman,so let's hope they don't make that to her.

Most of the villains in this recent Batwoman title have all been well above street level. I'd be surprised if any new villain in Batwoman was street level, especially one introduced in a Wonder Woman story.

#28 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

I know you guys are asking for moment that would glorify Wonder Woman which she needs, but isn’t odd that dc made good few Greek tragedy characters so other companies but haven’t done one with Wonder Woman’s villains that are believable or worth caring about. Medusa is great example Greek tragedy.

I think there will be similarity with Batwoman and Medusa. Both over-boast themselves and they were they paid for it by having their identities destroyed.

#29 Edited by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hazlenaut: I thought according to Ovid that Medusa was punished by Athena for being raped by Poseidon. Because it happened in her temple and that was somehow Medusa's fault.

#30 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg: That is the true version of it and Pegasus is Medusa’s child in Greek Mythology. I do not know which version they are going to use since they do need follow Greek version, since DC’s timeline so scrambled.

#31 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hatutzeraze: batwoman is still humasn,if she can deal with her villans somehow,then it would be a bad showing for wonder woman,if they let characters above humans give wonder woman problems,she is a semi-goddess,she shouldn't have problems with characters above peak human level,i hope they don't mess with her in this comic.

#32 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Im not interested in Batwoman, but might read it for WW if she is written well.

#33 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

Remember what is said of the blood of Medusa makes monsters. What if that result for a new big time villain for Wonder Woman.

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