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    Character » Wonder Woman appears in 8719 issues.

    The Amazon princess, blessed with god-like super abilities, Wonder Woman is one of Earth's most powerful defenders of peace, justice, and equality and a member of the Justice League. She is considered an archetype for many heroines outside of comic book. Her initial origin depicted her as a clay baby brought to life by patron goddess Aphrodite, but in recent years she has been depicted as the daughter of Zeus and Amazon queen Hippolyta.

    Why can't people accept that WW is stronger than Superman?

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    #1  Edited By redwingx

    Superman is slightly stronger but that doesn't matter. WW is a trained warrior, It's like saying a bodybuilder can beat a trained military person in a fight.

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    Presumably the same reason people have trouble accepting that the Earth is flat.

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    @saren said:

    Presumably the same reason people have trouble accepting that the Earth is flat.

    Snap.

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    #4 frozen  Moderator

    Because in the actual comics Superman is actually shown to be far stronger.

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    Because she isn't.

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    @agent41 said:

    @frozen said:

    Because in the actual comics Superman is actually shown to be far stronger.

    you mean the current comics in the new 52?,because pre 52 WW being far weaker than him is not true at all.

    That's full of gibberish.

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    I think they are equal, but if Wonder Woman is stronger I have no problem with it.

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    @dianaxkal: Lord Superman just trashed Wonder Woman twice in a row in Justice League Beyond, he's incomparably stronger in Injustice, he's obviously the strongest/protective half of his relationship with Wonder Woman and was recently deemed the only being on earth capable of defeating Doomsday.

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    Stop, just... stop.

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    Because she ain't. 'Nuff said

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    #13  Edited By TDK_1997

    @agent41 said:

    @tdk_1997: what is full of gibberish?.

    The fact that pre-52 Wonder Woman is stronger than Superman.

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    @agent41: There are 5 Pre-52 instances in which he flat overpowers her. Deal with it.

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    superman wins , he's ftl while hulk is barely hyper sonic.

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    #17  Edited By Superguy1591

    SSuperman is stronger, always has been, always will be, but Diana should win a majority if their fights. Superman can't fight, Superman isn't a fighter, Wonder Woman is.

    Could an NFL LB knock out Ronda Rousey? Yes, but if Ronda Rousey evades his hits and gets that opening shot, she could and should be able to knock him out.

    It amazes me that people will argue that Batman can survive a fight with Superman(some will even argue that Batman can beat him), but Wonder Woman can't beat him.

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    @agent41 said:

    @tdk_1997 said:

    @agent41 said:

    @tdk_1997: what is full of gibberish?.

    The fact that pre-52 Wonder Woman is stronger than Superman.

    i never said she was stronger,i said he wasn't far stronger thann her.

    Again, giberrish.

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    #19  Edited By DwightSpitz

    @saren said:

    Presumably the same reason people have trouble accepting that the Earth is flat.

    Comment of the century (in the context).

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    http://www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/i-calculated-how-strong-superman-is-new-52-751618/

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    @archizoom: Grow up? Mentioning non-canon instances like Beyond and Injustice don't help to support your claim. I've seen your posts around here before, so don't think I don't know your agenda.

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    SSuperman is stronger, always has been, always will be, but Diana should win a majority if their fights. Superman can't fight, Superman isn't a fighter, Wonder Woman is.

    Could an NFL LB knock out Ronda Rousey? Yes, but if Ronda Rousey evades his hits and gets that opening shot, she could and should be able to knock him out.

    It amazes me that people will argue that Batman can survive a fight with Superman(some will even argue that Batman can beat him), but Wonder Woman can't beat him.

    It's called zeal and fanboyism. Ignore them. They make themselves look like idiots on their own.

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    superman wins , he's ftl while hulk is barely hyper sonic.

    very on topic LOL

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    #27  Edited By w0nd

    @redwingx said:

    Superman is slightly stronger but that doesn't matter. WW is a trained warrior, It's like saying a bodybuilder can beat a trained military person in a fight.

    because the way people ask. they say things like "Who is stronger" well superman is, he is literally stronger than her as in he can lift more and punch harder. they never ask "who is a better fighter/ more skilled over all" so that's probably where the answers differ.

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    in the sacrafice arc didn't she admit he was more powerful, and the only thing keeping her alive was her skill? or am I mistaken? Same way when it came down to it superman took on doomsday, and superman stood up to the nuclear blast to protect her with his cape?

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    @redwingx: Wonder Woman is a better fighter that is all she have over Superman nothing else.Superman is Stronger,Faster and more Durable than her.

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    @redwingx: Wonder Woman is a better fighter that is all she have over Superman nothing else.Superman is Stronger,Faster and more Durable than her.

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    @tensor: I would also give her agility and reaction speed.

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    superman will always be stronger, but wonder woman will always be the better fighter.

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    Because she ain't. 'Nuff said

    That's exactly what I was thinking; for more information, see the Justice League episode For the Man Who Has Everything. Now that that's out the way, lets get to developing Wonder Woman's rogues gallery in her book and elsewhere, specifically, Dr. Psycho. There are quite a few issues to address about Wonder Woman than focusing on her strength level, particularly, her relation with Dr. Psycho.

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    Superman is stronger and would thrash her in a fight

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    They are both equal in power. In fighting skill Diana is better because she's been trained her whole life to be a warrior.

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    #36  Edited By tensor

    @superguy1591: Superman reaction is better than Diana.She is more agile yes.

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    Heh, bait topic

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    SSuperman is stronger, always has been, always will be, but Diana should win a majority if their fights. Superman can't fight, Superman isn't a fighter, Wonder Woman is.

    Could an NFL LB knock out Ronda Rousey? Yes, but if Ronda Rousey evades his hits and gets that opening shot, she could and should be able to knock him out.

    It amazes me that people will argue that Batman can survive a fight with Superman(some will even argue that Batman can beat him), but Wonder Woman can't beat him.

    I agree with this. I've always viewed it as - Superman has the raw power but Wonder Woman has the mind of a warrior which could/would/should give her an edge. I like to think they're evenly matched.

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    Because men have trouble perceiving reality.

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    #43  Edited By ubungqingili

    @saren:

    accept for the fact its round.

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    The truth is that Supermans strength will mean nothing in a fight against Diana, except that he can hurt her. People like Frozen and Saren like to downplay her skill, but thats just because they are biased towards Superman. In a fight, skill does mean everything. Arnold schwarzenegger during his prime was big and strong, however if you put him against someone who is physically inferior, like Bruce Lee, he would still lose. Wonder Woman is more skilled then Kal, and would, in a non PIS fight, deflect and block all his punches. She would land punches in places where it counts. People just hate the idea of precious Superman losing.

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    • She isn't stronger than he is.
    • The strength difference isn't as big as people are making it out to be.
    • She should win a majority in a fight because of her skill, speed and durability.

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    @superguy1591 said:

    Superman is stronger, always has been, always will be, but Diana should win a majority if their fights. Superman can't fight, Superman isn't a fighter, Wonder Woman is.

    Could an NFL LB knock out Ronda Rousey? Yes, but if Ronda Rousey evades his hits and gets that opening shot, she could and should be able to knock him out.

    It amazes me that people will argue that Batman can survive a fight with Superman(some will even argue that Batman can beat him), but Wonder Woman can't beat him.

    Skill can only go so much and she is trained in a old fighting style ( Greco-Roman). If Superman completely let go or he be trained by someone with more fighting knowledge like say Batman then WW would lose.

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    @darkman61288: Well, Superman isnt better trained and taking training from Batman isnt Supes' thing.

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    #50  Edited By frozen  Moderator

    @superguy1591: Wonder Woman can't beat him because the actual comics show Superman to beat her and overpower her, simply put he's DC's top dog - she's skilled, but against Superman it never gives her an edge. I can currently think of 5 instances of him showing superiority. By that logic, Supergirl was more skilled than Superman in Pre-52 canon but she was never shown to be above him either.

    Oh, and Batman >>>>>> Wonder Woman in skill. Batman's a monster in the skill department, Wonder Woman isn't.

    I honestly think going by portrayal, characters like Black Adam seem moreso above Superman because he's written to be, while Wonder Woman should be she really isn't when it comes to writing them together.

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