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    Character » Wonder Woman appears in 8805 issues.

    The Amazon princess, blessed with god-like super abilities, Wonder Woman is one of Earth's most powerful defenders of peace, justice, and equality and a member of the Justice League. She is considered an archetype for many heroines outside of comic book. Her initial origin depicted her as a clay baby brought to life by patron goddess Aphrodite, but in recent years she has been depicted as the daughter of Zeus and Amazon queen Hippolyta.

    Where does Wonder Woman get her money from in the DCnU

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    Ok Wonder Woman seems to have above average wealth.

    She lives in the center of London (Really expensive there)

    And she does not seem to have a day job

    Pre_Flashpoint she made revenue through her marketing agent who basically marketed the Wonder Woman name and likeness on all sorts of merchandise.

    SO...

    How does she do it in the DCnU

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    #2  Edited By dshipp17

    I'm guessing from the Paradise Island treasury; although unstated, I believe DC is emphasizing that she's a princess; unless, Bruce Wayne is helping her out financially for reasons yet to be explained. Actually, this is a good topic that the new writer could explore. Back at the beginning of Azz’s run, this topic generated a lot of speculation, some related to prostituting or call girl services; it would be very interesting if she were the favorite of a particular pimp or regular john; in some circles, what if she had to be addressed as slave, as a show to certain clientele? What if it turned out to be Dr. Psycho, the pimp or john? That’ll be a change of dynamics that I could really get into. It would certainly serve as a great explanation for why Dr. Psycho doesn't seem to be so obsessed with Wonder Woman anymore (e.g. he doesn't have to be; they just made arrangements to allow Wonder Woman to freely conduct her superhero activities with as little burden/interference as possible, in exchange for her services to Dr. Psycho; has to be their little secret away from Superman).

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    Batman pays for all the Justice League stuff, maybe he lets Diana use one of his London apartments. Unfortunately Azzerello hasn't explored Diana's normal life at all, so we really have no idea who she is when she isn't Wonder Woman.

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    #4  Edited By JestersJoker

    I thought she was a nurse?

    Isn't she the inventor of some blue ray healing device?

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    #5  Edited By lifeofvibe

    @dshipp17: you went a little overboard don't you think? Prostitute wonder woman is an interesting idea though

    P.s I'm imagining the fan rage and utter destruction of DC that's why its interesting

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    She could squat there and dumpster-dive for food since she doesn't have a job. A lot of those buildings are unoccupied.

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    #7  Edited By dshipp17

    @lifeofvibe said:

    @dshipp17: you went a little overboard don't you think? Prostitute wonder woman is an interesting idea though

    P.s I'm imagining the fan rage and utter destruction of DC that's why its interesting

    Not really and I was retorting some suggestions passed at the start of Azz's run. I don't think so, because the concept has been tried all over the place, including Dejah Thoris; usually, the way it happens is Wonder Woman gets hitched with a long term john (e.g. Dr. Psycho), as I stated above; also, isn't Catwoman working in prostitution? If it can happen there in DC it can be done in other places in DC, like in Wonder Woman; it’s an idea to put a spark of new interest in the Wonder Woman book, in a territory not yet explored; I don't think it's a bad idea at all.

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    I thought she was a nurse?

    Isn't she the inventor of some blue ray healing device?

    nope

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    @rdclip: Barman didn't really do that in the N52

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    #11  Edited By WDW

    @wdw said:
    @jestersjoker said:

    I thought she was a nurse?

    Isn't she the inventor of some blue ray healing device?

    nope

    Sure, she was a nurse

    The 6 worst jobs Wonder Woman ever had.

    http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/03/the_6_worst_jobs_wonder_woman_ever_had.php

    Diana invented the Purple Ray in order to heal Steve Trevor from injuries he sustained when his plane was shot down and he was left adrift in the sea for days.[

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Ray

    That was Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman. Its not the same Wonder Woman.... as far as the current wonder woman is concerned, that never happened.

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    You know, now that you guys mentioned, do Gods or demigods (in comic book) living in the modern and being superheroes normally have jobs? I know Marvel's Hercules have a Job. But what about Thor? Or WW family?

    It is a great thread

    @dshipp17: This is a great plot Dude, That would make a great porn parody, if they had plots...

    Tell me more, Is wonder woman in love with Dr. Psycho in your fantasy story? Or she just have bussiness with him?

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    #13  Edited By dshipp17

    @ultra_beleco said:

    You know, now that you guys mentioned, do Gods or demigods (in comic book) living in the modern and being superheroes normally have jobs? I know Marvel's Hercules have a Job. But what about Thor? Or WW family?

    It is a great thread

    @dshipp17: This is a great plot Dude, That would make a great porn parody, if they had plots...

    Tell me more, Is wonder woman in love with Dr. Psycho in your fantasy story? Or she just have bussiness with him?

    Right now, it's more of a business arrangement from Wonder Woman's perspective; she's just trying to make due outside of her superhero life; this arrangement is more along the lines of what Dejah Thoris had to do, starting with issue 9 of Dejah Thoris and the Green Men of Mars; however, perhaps Dr. Psycho can grow on Wonder Woman a little like Turk Tars did on Dejah; I think the new creative team can make this apart of Wonder Woman, or, what if Azz just springs this upon us, as his parting gift, where the new creative team can than develop it? Either way, the new creative team should start with this plot device, so that we'll have some context of Wonder Woman's life outside of the superhero stuff. How Wonder Woman makes due is a good point, because, as WDW made clear, in post-crisis world, and issue 72 of Mesner-Loebs' run showed, Diana had no basis of employment, and, in this New-52, Batman doesn't appear to be as charitable. Of course, Wonder Woman would appear to have access to some very valuable items on Paradise Island that could sustain her for years (e.g. she could have a 1500 BC year old gold statute with diamonds and rubies that is worth about $125 million, which she sold, at some point; that would definitely explain her wealth; however, she could just be working with Dr. Psycho as a guise for Dr. Psycho's benefit, as opposed to any type of financial necessity).

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    Like so @dshipp17?

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    That's a great video; what's the name of that film/clip, what is it about, and who is staring in it? That's something very good to consider; dancing to/with a toy?

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    @dshipp17 said:

    That's a great video; what's the name of that film/clip, what is it about, and who is staring in it? That's something very good to consider; dancing to/with a toy?

    I knew you'd like it so I made that gif especially for you. That's Jennifer Connelly in Requiem for a dream. She's addicted to cocaine and eventually resorts to prostitution to support her addiction, as do most women who agree to do this. Women who were abused, raped and bereft of their dignity. A few million women more, girls and boys are sold as sex slaves and end up lifeless in the bottom of the ocean at 25-30 as they're seen as old hence useless for this 32 billion dollar industry. I can imagine Wonder Woman walk into a place like this, to cut off their balls and feed them to the sharks

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    I always assumed Steve Trevor or ARGUS or something like that supplied her.

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    #19  Edited By dshipp17

    @maccyd said:

    I always assumed Steve Trevor or ARGUS or something like that supplied her.

    You believe that after their relationship is now over? A little doubtful, don't you think?

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    @dshipp17: He still cares about her and is/was still her representative to the government/ARGUS.

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    #22  Edited By dshipp17

    @archizoom said:

    @dshipp17 said:

    That's a great video; what's the name of that film/clip, what is it about, and who is staring in it? That's something very good to consider; dancing to/with a toy?

    I knew you'd like it so I made that gif especially for you. That's Jennifer Connelly in Requiem for a dream. She's addicted to cocaine and eventually resorts to prostitution to support her addiction, as do most women who agree to do this. Women who were abused, raped and bereft of their dignity. A few million women more, girls and boys are sold as sex slaves and end up lifeless in the bottom of the ocean at 25-30 as they're seen as old hence useless for this 32 billion dollar industry. I can imagine Wonder Woman walk into a place like this, to cut off their balls and feed them to the sharks

    No need to bring up all of this information in this context; there are downsides in pretty much all unconventional fields of employment; I heard some pretty awful stories concerning men who are forced to work in lumber mills, because of the circumstances life has dealt them; as a matter of fact, I knew a man who was working in the same mill after losing an arm, because he knew there were no other way to support himself financially; hearing those tales were some of the first traumatizing things that I was exposed to, which was part of removing my naive perception of people and how American society actually functions, soon after leaving college; have you ever heard or even cared to hear those type of stories? Women are not the only victims in this world. On the other side, I heard the story of a woman who went into prostitution because of her bad experiences with men; she said she was motivated by the idea of giving men a false sense of importance and further tearing down their self esteem; women also get into pornography because they want to; they like working with men who have no other access to sex. Wonder Woman is just working with the position she's in, in her current situation.

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    Where could Diana get an income?

    1. She probably knows where the Amazons on Paradise keep their wealth, gold, artifacts, weapons, etcetera etc.

    2. She could easily get a job at construction sites considering the amount of weight she can lift, thus saving the builders money using expensive cranes.

    3. She could get a job as a nurse, since she seems very knowledgeable in that area.

    4. She could easily command top dollar in speaking engagements. One speech she could net her over 50 grand.

    5. She could get a job as a weapons expert being a warrior and very knowledgeable on ancient weapons as well as modern weapons.

    6. She could get a job as an instructor in hand to hand combat.

    7. She could also get a job as a model since she has a perfect body.

    8. She could also get a job as a stunt woman in films.

    I mean there are numerous jobs she could get without prostituting herself.

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    @dshipp17 said:

    No need to bring up all of this information in this context; there are downsides in pretty much all unconventional fields of employment; I heard some pretty awful stories concerning men who work in lumber mills; as a matter of fact, I knew a man who work in the same mill after losing an arm, because he knew there were no other way to support himself financially; hearing those tales were some of the first traumatizing things that I was exposed to, which was part of removing my naive view of people and how American society actually functions, soon after leaving college; have you every heard or even cared to hear those type of stories? Women are not the only victims in this world. On the other side, I heard the story of a woman who went into prostitution because of her bad experiences with men; she said she was motivated by by idea of giving men a false sense of importance; women also get into pornography because they want to; they like working with men who have no other access to sex. Wonder Woman is just working with the position she's in, in her current situation.

    Since this is about Wonder Woman being a sex worker for Dr. Psycho which was your idea, it didn't occur to me to rant about the slaves of Dubai. But I care about those bangladeshi men, enough to whinge from behind my computer anyway which may not seem like much but seeing how nobody else gives a shit, it's actually not so selfish. That woman is a minority in the sex industry. The shocking truth is a large percentage of sex-workers are broken women who were abused and sold like cattle. They shame them, drug them, threaten them then toss them away once they're no longer useful to them.

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    Where could Diana get an income?

    1. She probably knows where the Amazons on Paradise keep their wealth, gold, artifacts, weapons, etcetera etc.

    2. She could easily get a job at construction sites considering the amount of weight she can lift, thus saving the builders money using expensive cranes.

    3. She could get a job as a nurse, since she seems very knowledgeable in that area.

    4. She could easily command top dollar in speaking engagements. One speech she could net her over 50 grand.

    5. She could get a job as a weapons expert being a warrior and very knowledgeable on ancient weapons as well as modern weapons.

    6. She could get a job as an instructor in hand to hand combat.

    7. She could also get a job as a model since she has a perfect body.

    8. She could also get a job as a stunt woman in films.

    I mean there are numerous jobs she could get without prostituting herself.

    9. She can use her lasso in a poker sesh and become rich instantly.

    10. She can win the New York marathon

    or

    11. do sex shows for dr. psycho

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    #26  Edited By cattlebattle

    She shake dat booty on da weekend.

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    #27  Edited By JestersJoker

    @archizoom said:

    or11. do sex shows for dr. psycho

    ya,

    whatever will sell

    sad, there is so much porn on the internet and still people are not satisfied.

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    #28  Edited By Erik

    She loots her opponents after they die.

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    @maccyd said:

    @dshipp17: He still cares about her and is/was still her representative to the government/ARGUS.

    But, how common is it that you'll see an ex-husband still being the financial breadwinner for a woman who divorced him? She separated from him, she left his home, with all of her belongings, so, there really aren't any ties for him in relation to Wonder Woman. He can very well still represent her to the government, just like, say, an attorney can represent his client. And Steve mourned over her, soon after she separated from him; and I say that as someone who is disinterested in her relationship with someone like Steve, Batman, Superman, Nemesis, etc, as the more relationship for me would be seeing her paired with Dr. Psycho or other men, or male entities, with problems with their looks and esteem; I know the feeling, as my fiancee broke up with me and I literally spent a year thinking about the time we spent together, and it literally took a number of years for me to get over her, even though it appeared that I'd cut all ties with her, which was true; however, emotionally speaking, I dwelt on her for quite some time; I can't say the same thing about her, however, as she started hanging out with another guy literally days after she broke up with me and made sure that I saw it.

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    Working on the corners?

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    @dshipp17 said:

    No need to bring up all of this information in this context; there are downsides in pretty much all unconventional fields of employment; I heard some pretty awful stories concerning men who work in lumber mills; as a matter of fact, I knew a man who work in the same mill after losing an arm, because he knew there were no other way to support himself financially; hearing those tales were some of the first traumatizing things that I was exposed to, which was part of removing my naive view of people and how American society actually functions, soon after leaving college; have you every heard or even cared to hear those type of stories? Women are not the only victims in this world. On the other side, I heard the story of a woman who went into prostitution because of her bad experiences with men; she said she was motivated by by idea of giving men a false sense of importance; women also get into pornography because they want to; they like working with men who have no other access to sex. Wonder Woman is just working with the position she's in, in her current situation.

    Since this is about Wonder Woman being a sex worker for Dr. Psycho which was your idea, it didn't occur to me to rant about the slaves of Dubai. But I care about those bangladeshi men, enough to whinge from behind my computer anyway which may not seem like much but seeing how nobody else gives a shit, it's actually not so selfish. That woman is a minority in the sex industry. The shocking truth is a large percentage of sex-workers are broken women who were abused and sold like cattle. They shame them, drug them, threaten them then toss them away once they're no longer useful to them.

    The context of what I was saying has a setting in the United States, as I thought you could gauge; the situation in Dubai or Bangladesh just expands the picture some; I just felt that it was an addition that was unnecessary in this context; I was asking if you care about those men right here in the United States? My point is that both men and women are broken in this context and they both are treated with low value.

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    #32  Edited By dshipp17

    @jestersjoker said:

    Where could Diana get an income?

    1. She probably knows where the Amazons on Paradise keep their wealth, gold, artifacts, weapons, etcetera etc.

    2. She could easily get a job at construction sites considering the amount of weight she can lift, thus saving the builders money using expensive cranes.

    3. She could get a job as a nurse, since she seems very knowledgeable in that area.

    4. She could easily command top dollar in speaking engagements. One speech she could net her over 50 grand.

    5. She could get a job as a weapons expert being a warrior and very knowledgeable on ancient weapons as well as modern weapons.

    6. She could get a job as an instructor in hand to hand combat.

    7. She could also get a job as a model since she has a perfect body.

    8. She could also get a job as a stunt woman in films.

    I mean there are numerous jobs she could get without prostituting herself.

    1. I already pointed that out as a likely prospect; however, we're trying to create an intriguing story to draw in loyal subscribers, not create just another comic book that someone can buy anywhere. 2. However, the construction site requires her presence on a fixed schedule; say she did this, but got let go, because her attendance was too erratic; again, we're trying to bring/draw in loyal readers that will stick around. 3. Nursing would definitely require attendance on a fixed schedule; say she was let go because her attendance was too erratic; again, we're trying to bring/draw in loyal readers that will stick around. 4. Sure, but, how much longer if she constantly canceled her dates? Again, we're trying to draw in loyal readers who will stick around. 5. She'd have to attend on a hard schedule and get accustomed to taking orders, sometimes orders designed to incite her passions; say her attendance was too erratic for her to be kept; again, we're trying to draw in loyal readers with an intriguing story not found everywhere. 6. Same. 7. Very good added suggestion, but, requires keeping a fixed schedule. 8. Requires her to keep a fixed schedule. However, prostituting herself, under Dr. Psycho, even, is going to create an intriguing story line and draw in a regular customer base, unlikely to complain, as long as the stories stay closely within this plot device; it's going to create many interesting stories to see how Dr. Psycho "disciplines" Diana for being late or missing out on a scheduled appointment, see how Diana responds, and see how Dr. Psycho goes about keeping her retained and in check, should she want to leave; wouldn't be more curious in those types of stories? Wouldn't you be intrigued by those cliff hangers? Wouldn't that create more shock value that's unlikely to get boring, as long as I can keep it different and interesting? I'm trying to create a story that will not quickly get boring and insure that I'm providing suggestions for more than 6 months.

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    Really...A Wonder Woman/Dr.Psycho shipper.

    God, and people tought that this pairing was the most bizarre thing writters could think of nowdays:

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    @dshipp17 said:

    The context of what I was saying has a setting in the United States, as I thought you could gauge; the situation in Dubai or Bangladesh just expands the picture some; I just felt that it was an addition that was unnecessary in this context; I was asking if you care about those men right here in the United States? My point is that both men and women are broken in this context and they both are treated with low value.

    I didn't suggest the male species were immune to the horrors of this world dshipp. I was just telling you about the monstrous nature of the sex industry since you think Wonder Woman should voluntarily participate in those activities.

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    #36  Edited By dshipp17

    @archizoom said:

    @dshipp17 said:

    The context of what I was saying has a setting in the United States, as I thought you could gauge; the situation in Dubai or Bangladesh just expands the picture some; I just felt that it was an addition that was unnecessary in this context; I was asking if you care about those men right here in the United States? My point is that both men and women are broken in this context and they both are treated with low value.

    I didn't suggest the male species were immune to the horrors of this world dshipp. I was just telling you about the monstrous nature of the sex industry since you think Wonder Woman should voluntarily participate in those activities.

    I was implying that there are horrors in most industries that people voluntarily participate within to get through a issue of financial hardship; I was saying that other female characters participate in this industry that I propose for Wonder Woman, to the effect of producing interesting stories to appease the fans from becoming bored too soon, including within DC comics; after all, that's a near necessity for survival in an entertainment industry such as the Wonder Woman comic; it would be very unproductive to analyze every suggestion through this lens, when I'm trying to keep things intriguing for entertainment purposes. Wonder Woman could be one of those group of women that are participating in this industry to just help certain men get through their challenges in the area of sex; it's understood that there are other men in this industry that are there to horribly exploit women and women who might have gotten there through undesirable circumstances; however, just say that the context of these stories will be in the former case. You're comment appears to suggest that the sex industry is a horror industry through and through, within 100% or 90% of the cases, when what you bring up may not actually make up even 60% of the cases.

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    All this prostitute business seems like something Frank Miller or Mark Millar would write.

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    @dshipp17 said:

    I was implying that there are horrors in most industries that people voluntarily participate within to get through a issue of financial hardship; I was saying that other female characters participate in this industry that I propose for Wonder Woman, to the effect of producing interesting stories to appease the fans from becoming bored too soon, including within DC comics; after all, that's a near necessity for survival in an entertainment industry such as the Wonder Woman comic; it would be very unproductive to analyze every suggestion through this lens, when I'm trying to keep things intriguing for entertainment purposes. Wonder Woman could be one of those group of women that are participating in this industry to just help certain men get through their challenges in the area of sex; it's understood that there are other men in this industry that are there to horribly exploit women and women who might have gotten there through undesirable circumstances; however, just say that the context of these stories will be in the former case. You're comment appears to suggest that the sex industry is a horror industry through and through, within 100% or 90% of the cases, when what you bring up may not actually make up even 60% of the cases.

    60% of sex slaves is actually more than i reckoned. I'd say at large prostitutes come from a background of violence, poverty and drugs but only 25 to 30% are enslaved which translates to 11 to 15 million women worldwide. Suggesting that Wonder Woman, of all superheroines should trade on her sexuality and do so under the dominion of a pimp (?!) because "that's the only way boys would get into wonder woman" is so preposterous it came across as sarcasm

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    She shake dat booty on da weekend.

    LOL That's what I was gonna say.

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    They are still friends, but Steve Trevor´s side he still loves her.

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    @dshipp17 said:

    I was implying that there are horrors in most industries that people voluntarily participate within to get through a issue of financial hardship; I was saying that other female characters participate in this industry that I propose for Wonder Woman, to the effect of producing interesting stories to appease the fans from becoming bored too soon, including within DC comics; after all, that's a near necessity for survival in an entertainment industry such as the Wonder Woman comic; it would be very unproductive to analyze every suggestion through this lens, when I'm trying to keep things intriguing for entertainment purposes. Wonder Woman could be one of those group of women that are participating in this industry to just help certain men get through their challenges in the area of sex; it's understood that there are other men in this industry that are there to horribly exploit women and women who might have gotten there through undesirable circumstances; however, just say that the context of these stories will be in the former case. You're comment appears to suggest that the sex industry is a horror industry through and through, within 100% or 90% of the cases, when what you bring up may not actually make up even 60% of the cases.

    60% of sex slaves is actually more than i reckoned. I'd say at large prostitutes come from a background of violence, poverty and drugs but only 25 to 30% are enslaved which translates to 11 to 15 million women worldwide. Suggesting that Wonder Woman, of all superheroines should trade on her sexuality and do so under the dominion of a pimp (?!) because "that's the only way boys would get into wonder woman" is so preposterous it came across as sarcasm

    Keep your prospective straight; we're talking about sex workers, not sex slaves, though the idea of a sex slave is still an intriguing idea; we're only talking about the United States; as much as you wish it, there are very few sex slaves in the United States; by your numbers, than, about 85 million aren't experiencing much of a problem; yes, trading under a pimp would make an intriguing 6-12 arc story line, now that I've corrected your prospective; when I speak of Wonder Woman, remember, I'm more talking about women in the United States, not China, Afghanistan, North Korea, or somewhere like that; I think you know that, so, just leave it, and get with making an intriguing story line for its entertainment value; actually, I've corrected you repeatedly on that point already.

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    Interesting. I never thought about it that much.

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    @dshipp17 said:

    @archizoom said:

    @dshipp17 said:

    I was implying that there are horrors in most industries that people voluntarily participate within to get through a issue of financial hardship; I was saying that other female characters participate in this industry that I propose for Wonder Woman, to the effect of producing interesting stories to appease the fans from becoming bored too soon, including within DC comics; after all, that's a near necessity for survival in an entertainment industry such as the Wonder Woman comic; it would be very unproductive to analyze every suggestion through this lens, when I'm trying to keep things intriguing for entertainment purposes. Wonder Woman could be one of those group of women that are participating in this industry to just help certain men get through their challenges in the area of sex; it's understood that there are other men in this industry that are there to horribly exploit women and women who might have gotten there through undesirable circumstances; however, just say that the context of these stories will be in the former case. You're comment appears to suggest that the sex industry is a horror industry through and through, within 100% or 90% of the cases, when what you bring up may not actually make up even 60% of the cases.

    60% of sex slaves is actually more than i reckoned. I'd say at large prostitutes come from a background of violence, poverty and drugs but only 25 to 30% are enslaved which translates to 11 to 15 million women worldwide. Suggesting that Wonder Woman, of all superheroines should trade on her sexuality and do so under the dominion of a pimp (?!) because "that's the only way boys would get into wonder woman" is so preposterous it came across as sarcasm

    Keep your prospective straight; we're talking about sex workers, not sex slaves, though the idea of a sex slave is still an intriguing idea; we're only talking about the United States; as much as you wish it, there are very few sex slaves in the United States; by your numbers, than, about 85 million aren't experiencing much of a problem; yes, trading under a pimp would make an intriguing 6-12 arc story line, now that I've corrected your prospective; when I speak of Wonder Woman, remember, I'm more talking about women in the United States, not China, Afghanistan, North Korea, or somewhere like that; I think you know that, so, just leave it, and get with making an intriguing story line for its entertainment value; actually, I've corrected you repeatedly on that point already.

    Smut stories are so common now adays it hardly raises an eyebrow. To me writing a story where Wonder Woman becomes a whore would not be very profitable.

    If you want something that will sell write a story where Diana becomes a Christian and declares Jesus Christ the God of gods. I think that would really sell and it would certainly raise a lot of eyebrows.

    Besides I think the pendulum seems to be swinging the other way.

    Just my pov

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    @dshipp17 said:

    Keep your prospective straight; we're talking about sex workers, not sex slaves, though the idea of a sex slave is still an intriguing idea; we're only talking about the United States; as much as you wish it, there are very few sex slaves in the United States; by your numbers, than, about 85 million aren't experiencing much of a problem; yes, trading under a pimp would make an intriguing 6-12 arc story line, now that I've corrected your prospective; when I speak of Wonder Woman, remember, I'm more talking about women in the United States, not China, Afghanistan, North Korea, or somewhere like that; I think you know that, so, just leave it, and get with making an intriguing story line for its entertainment value; actually, I've corrected you repeatedly on that point already.

    Sex slaves are modern slave women who are held hostage, sold and forced to prostitute themselves for someone else's financial benefit. I don't know what else you thought I was referring to. These women are usually from developing countries but not necessarily. Sex trafficking networks operate in Europe and America. There are 40-42 million prostitutes in the world according to Le Figaro, out of which 11,5 million are slaves. Introducing Wonder Woman to this line of business would absolutely destroy the character. You would've probably noticed that she has a personality if you weren't so obsessed with her feet. Luckily there's Dejah Thoris and the Witch of the Black Rose to help quench your hunger.

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    @archizoom said:

    @dshipp17 said:

    Keep your prospective straight; we're talking about sex workers, not sex slaves, though the idea of a sex slave is still an intriguing idea; we're only talking about the United States; as much as you wish it, there are very few sex slaves in the United States; by your numbers, than, about 85 million aren't experiencing much of a problem; yes, trading under a pimp would make an intriguing 6-12 arc story line, now that I've corrected your prospective; when I speak of Wonder Woman, remember, I'm more talking about women in the United States, not China, Afghanistan, North Korea, or somewhere like that; I think you know that, so, just leave it, and get with making an intriguing story line for its entertainment value; actually, I've corrected you repeatedly on that point already.

    Sex slaves are modern slave women who are held hostage, sold and forced to prostitute themselves for someone else's financial benefit. I don't know what else you thought I was referring to. These women are usually from developing countries but not necessarily. Sex trafficking networks operate in Europe and America. There are 40-42 million prostitutes in the world according to Le Figaro, out of which 11,5 million are slaves. Introducing Wonder Woman to this line of business would absolutely destroy the character. You would've probably noticed that she has a personality if you weren't so obsessed with her feet. Luckily there's Dejah Thoris and the Witch of the Black Rose to help quench your hunger.

    I don't know if it matter what you were referring to, because the discussion is about sex workers not sex slaves; again, when most people think of Wonder Woman, they're thinking about women in the United States, not developing countries; the type of perception Wonder Woman has is that of United States women; women of developing countries have a different and real problem; I'll quench my hunger with Wonder Woman too; similar to Dejah Thoris, Wonder Woman could use 4 different ongoing titles, or, similar to Witch of Black Rose, Wonder Woman could use 14 straight years of solid, stable sales; apparently, those titles are demonstrating that my suggestions would work in the long run; and as I said, I don't want her to get a temporary jolt, due to the change of creative staff, and than sink even quicker, because the stories are so boring, but get a lasting jolt, due to an intriguing story arc involving her working as a sex worker, with Dr. Psycho's involvement, as the pimp, most preferably. I suppose your statics are for sex slaves, while the topic of discussion, at least in exchanging with me, is about sex workers; and that's the term that prostitutes coined for themselves, in place of "whores". I can see that you'd rather tare down things that deviate from your perception of what Wonder Woman should represent, a frumpy prude, who'll be selling 15,000 issues before 6 months are up; there's clearly a reason that the creative them that's following your perception is being asked to give Wonder Woman over to someone else.

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    @dshipp17 said:

    @archizoom said:

    @dshipp17 said:

    I was implying that there are horrors in most industries that people voluntarily participate within to get through a issue of financial hardship; I was saying that other female characters participate in this industry that I propose for Wonder Woman, to the effect of producing interesting stories to appease the fans from becoming bored too soon, including within DC comics; after all, that's a near necessity for survival in an entertainment industry such as the Wonder Woman comic; it would be very unproductive to analyze every suggestion through this lens, when I'm trying to keep things intriguing for entertainment purposes. Wonder Woman could be one of those group of women that are participating in this industry to just help certain men get through their challenges in the area of sex; it's understood that there are other men in this industry that are there to horribly exploit women and women who might have gotten there through undesirable circumstances; however, just say that the context of these stories will be in the former case. You're comment appears to suggest that the sex industry is a horror industry through and through, within 100% or 90% of the cases, when what you bring up may not actually make up even 60% of the cases.

    60% of sex slaves is actually more than i reckoned. I'd say at large prostitutes come from a background of violence, poverty and drugs but only 25 to 30% are enslaved which translates to 11 to 15 million women worldwide. Suggesting that Wonder Woman, of all superheroines should trade on her sexuality and do so under the dominion of a pimp (?!) because "that's the only way boys would get into wonder woman" is so preposterous it came across as sarcasm

    Keep your prospective straight; we're talking about sex workers, not sex slaves, though the idea of a sex slave is still an intriguing idea; we're only talking about the United States; as much as you wish it, there are very few sex slaves in the United States; by your numbers, than, about 85 million aren't experiencing much of a problem; yes, trading under a pimp would make an intriguing 6-12 arc story line, now that I've corrected your prospective; when I speak of Wonder Woman, remember, I'm more talking about women in the United States, not China, Afghanistan, North Korea, or somewhere like that; I think you know that, so, just leave it, and get with making an intriguing story line for its entertainment value; actually, I've corrected you repeatedly on that point already.

    Smut stories are so common now adays it hardly raises an eyebrow. To me writing a story where Wonder Woman becomes a whore would not be very profitable.

    If you want something that will sell write a story where Diana becomes a Christian and declares Jesus Christ the God of gods. I think that would really sell and it would certainly raise a lot of eyebrows.

    Besides I think the pendulum seems to be swinging the other way.

    Just my pov

    Where are all of these "smut stories" that you speak of? Surely, if they were that common, at least more common than the same old, same old junk of a Steve Trevor/Wonder Woman pairing, than I shouldn't have to ask; I assure you that Wonder Woman as a sex worker will have lasting, profitable effect, well past 2 and a half years, provided the authors I recommend or I took a shot on Wonder Woman. As a Christian, I would like to see the same thing, but, first things first, try a direction with untapped potential first. Sure, I agree that the pendulum was swinging the other way and that's why there's a problem with erratic sales trailing in the downward direction since Messner-Loebs' departure from Wonder Woman; that point is as clear as day.

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    #48  Edited By JestersJoker

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    gee

    why don't you just google " smut comics"

    and I assure you that it would not be profitable, if it were DC would have already done it.

    my experience with DC and Marvel is that they will do anything to make a buck.

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    They won't even canonize Wonder Woman as bisexual I doubt they would have her become a prostitute. A prostitute Wonder Woman migt actually make an interesting elseworlds story but can't see it going anywhere but wrong if it was in the main story. I'd rather see Wonder Woman run an ethical brothel but I can't see her actually seeing clients herself.

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    @dshipp17:

    gee

    why don't you just google " smut comics"

    and assure youthat it would not be profitable, if it were DC would have already done it.

    my experience with DC and Marvel is that they will do anything to make a buck.

    Well, as I said above, similar to Dejah Thoris, Wonder Woman could use 4 different ongoing titles, or, similar to Witch of Black Rose, Wonder Woman could use 14 straight years of solid, stable sales; I suppose you'd refer to Dejah Thoris and Witch of Black Rose as smut, but, it's smut done right; clearly, DC has not tried smut done right on Wonder Woman yet, or, at least departed from the thought of idea with Messner-Loebs' departure.

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