Perez' Gods and Mortals.

Well there are a few places they could take inspiration from, but my idea isn't a adaption of any particular story arc. My idea is that Ares would be trying to start a war between the Amazons, and Atlantians so that he could feed off the psychic energy. There actually was a story about that exactly in a bronze age comic, but it was kinda crappy so not much to take other then the basic concept. Also the story would be very different from Flashpoint, but they could pull some visual ques.

To be fair they kinda split the vote for Perez by making God's and Mortals a separate vote.

Her New 52 run.

Haha! Only vote for Jimenez, go me!

I'd have to say neither among your list. This list doesn't match the title. Either you should list all of the Wonder Woman runs and remove the two options that are not actually a run, or restructure the thread into something that's not a poll format or adjust the title. You can't use a poll format to ask which Wonder Woman run should be a movie, but not include all of the available runs/options. What you're doing is limiting peoples' choices into your limited and flawed view/understanding of the character. Other fans of Wonder Woman would have a vastly different taste in the character than you. There are even more stories involving the character to choose from.

Azz' option should be removed. I'ts not WW.

Either you have no idea what you're talking about or you're leaving out that you're mixing your opinion about good Wonder Woman stories with what most of the general audience thinks; what critics think matters not, as there are box office smash hits that got bad reviews from the critics; this list is nothing more than his preference mixed with the preferences of readers after 2011, which leaves out lots of people and Wonder Woman material; I know one run not on the list where the hard copy was on the New York Times best seller's list for many weeks. Additionally, there's no way to accurately gauge the opinion of the general audience for Wonder Woman, as the background has been quite jumbled and inconsistent; this means that DC has alienated many audiences in trying to cause the public view of the character to shift in accordance to the desires of certain chosen head personnel at DC, including recently; this wasn't that much of a problem in the 1990s, but you'd have to go all the way back to the Marston run, before the 1990s; this mostly involves the BDSM impression left by the Marston run; to a smaller extent, it's Messner-Loebs's run, but for different reasons (e.g. in his case, the audience just like the angle he portrayed the character).

Now, it's easy to say that Batman or Superman has a certain audience, because those characters are largely portrayed the same as they were from their creation; Batman, being a character fighting crime on the streets of Gotham, and Superman being strong, able to fly, losing his home planet, and being raised in Kansas by Johnathan and Martha Kent. Wonder Woman, on the other hand, should have been weaknesses with a BDSM subtext, and being from an island of women. Anything else was trying to divorce Wonder Woman from her unique roots, which includes many different ideas, even though DC has force feed us the Greek Mythology aspect since 2010; Rucka took the initiative to do that before this, and than we have to leap way back to the Perez run for such a concentration on Greek Mythology; before that, there was no incident of such a concentrated focus, even though some sparsely spreed stories involved Greek Mythology.

My comments did extend to most fans too; most of the fans have been alienated away from the comics. A larger group of fans could now be brought to the character if DC abandoned its current push and proceeded in a direction created by Marston and Messner-Loebs. Because most fans, as you say it, is a very small block from a larger potential, it wouldn't make sense to make a film targeted towards a lot of fans who are a small part of potential fans who would like a comic and movie idled after Marston and Messner-Loebs material. The only thing missing would kind of be Rucka material when he was making plans with the combination of Dr. Psycho and Veronica Cale. The other thing is the Wonder Woman comic should be remade to target mature or adult audiences, perhaps putting it with Vertigo or an independent contractor.

He also included material to make a movie, when you have to consider a larger potential fan base; the most fans you refer to, who have not been alienated from Wonder Woman, is not large enough to make a movie without risking a movie bust. The larger potential fans did see the entire Wonder Woman catalog which is why they would know about Marston and Messner-Loebs. Rucka's run would be good movie material, provided it was the portion of his run about Veronica Cale trying to use Dr. Psycho. Simone's Wonder Woman with Grendel followers would make a good movie, had it been allowed to be completed, as well as her Wonder Woman with the Secret Six story.

For the reasons already explained above, there is other material in Wonder Woman's background that would do far better with the general public than the material focused on in those three runs, since DC has alienated such a large population of people away from Wonder Woman and catered to a very small niche; Rucka's run does also include the Veronica Cale with Dr. Psycho material that could work far better in a movie than the material used in DC's current push for Wonder Woman.

Given that portions of her fan base have a different taste than any of the material listed among the three choices, what is better received does not exist among the current remaining fan base of Wonder Woman; however, some of the material that is in Wonder Woman's background has a track record of doing well with the general audience, whereas the material currently being pushed by DC does not have such a track record for success. So, it would be far healthier to go with that other material than to try to make a movie based on a niche audience.

Messner-Loebs material did very well with the general audience; as I said, certain fans have been alienated, so it is diluting yourself to take the word of the current people about what they think of Messner-Loebs, since DC cultivated those people by alienating other people who had a taste more in line with the Messner-Loebs material; as with Marston, DC decided that they wanted to distance Wonder Woman away from the Messner-Loebs run, not based on dismal results, but based on a perception that he did not make Wonder Woman appear empowered enough; that's a very bad reason to take the approach that we're going to try anything except Messner-Loebs.

The Marston material is not dated, because BDSM has a large, loyal, and thriving market. Sure, the specific execution of the stories are dated, but the design and script for the stories are not dated at all and can and should be adapted to the modern audience. The golden age execution of Batman is dated too, but it's working very well with the modern audience, because the design and script has been continuously adjusted for the times. I could make a story about Dr. Psycho threatening someone around him unless Wonder Woman agreed to have him chain her bracelets together, put her in her lasso, direct her to his hideout, put her in a special cage, and end the story with Dr. Psycho telling Wonder Woman that he has special plans for her. This could go in a lot of different directions, be published by Vertigo or a contractor, and made for an adult or mature audience as to the next published issue; while a lot of niche fans might either leave or expect the worse for the next issue, but would be on board for at least that next issue, I'd attract all kinds of other people eagerly anticipating the next issue, especially considering that it got listed as for a mature or adult audience. Depending on the execution and the cliffhanger of my next issue, I'd keep the people that I attracted and bring on more eager readers, while I may offend and drive away most of the current niche readers; my next story would be Marston like in the sense that she's bound, but Messner-Loebs like, because her escape would be created so that she does not leave Dr. Psycho completely unscathed; the story will allow for something to take place on the order of Artemis: Requiem, issue 1, at the very least; it might take at least 10 pages from two issues each to show Dr. Psycho in action, and Dr. Psycho will escape to try again another day; but, if I bring on 875,000 readers and lose about 20,000 of the current 45,000 readers, what smart business person would than order me to change directions or remove me as a writer?

Given what we've seen so far for this Diana, Azz's route may be the way to go. In which case, First Born here we come.

xoxo, -Saint Sophie

I'm just saying it seems more logical to base it off of Azz's run considering how the DCCU Diana right now is looking to be loosely based on her New 52 counterpart. Like I said, if that's the case, then First Born and dead immortals here we come.

xoxo, -Saint Sophie

The Messner-Loebs run did very well with the general audience and the comic book audience because he was on board as the writer longer than any other writer post-crisis until the arrival of Azz; you're quoting a fantasy, because his run was not panned by critics and comic book fans at the time he was on board as the writer; such is a very recent development because, as I said, the part of the general audience who liked his run had been alienated. A Wonder Woman movie based on any material other than the material that DC is currently pushing would stand a better chance of grossing a 700 million dollar move; although the Messner-Loebs material may or may not gross so high, it would do much better than trying to base a move around the tastes of the current small niche group. Sure the older audience would recognize Wonder Woman because of the cartoons and Lynda Carter, just as the older comic book audience would recognize Wonder Woman because of BDSM overtones, so basing her off of Greek Mythology would be unrecognizable to the general audience and likely create a movie bust.

I´d like to vote multiple. i think rucka, simone, perrez and a tiny pinch of az would be good.

Azzarello, it's the most complete package.

@agent41: Wonder Woman was completely developed in his run. As was a lot of characters. I'm glad WB is going with a character driven approach because that's basically Azzarello's run. Perez was more plot driven. But I do want to see Steve Trevor and a mixture of perez God's and Azzarello's God's.

Ok, looks like the second longest, but Messner-Loebs produced Wonder Woman material separate from the Wonder Woman issues; I made that comment remembering something I'd read about the most Wonder Woman material in terms of sales, and Messner-Loebs had only been eclipsed by Marston and the next writer. Still that's longer than Azz by a few issues. Loebs obviously did well with sources separate from the slice you're picking/judging your opinions from, so that's probably the general public and general comic book audience, where most of them have a different taste from the current push in Greek Mythology for the character.

My first proposal was that this type of poll be required to include all Wonder Woman writers and all Wonder Woman stories be included to get peoples' preference and that there's a lot more to Wonder Woman to consider. I think a movie would do better by choosing material from Wonder Woman's past separate from Greek Mythology. The villain does not have to do anything with Ares and probably not Cheetah, since she's been worn out and most people who recognize Wonder Woman from the general public should be feed up with DC's attempts with her. Selecting from all of Wonder Woman's past material, I'd start developing her back to her BDSM roots and not showing her going through her villains like toys, which means challenging her in the vein of Messner-Loebs, at least. Since 50 Shades of Grey is popular, I don't think such an approach would create a radical statement that could land as a bust, but it would help cement the image of BDSM being related to Wonder Woman and getting out of this 65 year struggle to take that impression about her away; it's more catering to your larger audience than using the character to push your personal message of empowerment onto everyone else; there's no need for that anymore; everyone gets the point already, just let it relax a little. The only current Wonder Woman villain who resembles the regular people that Marston tended to use so well would be Dr. Psycho; I think there's very good potential for a movie, tv series, cartoon, and a good 30-90 issue comic book push using him.

There's someone that would use BDSM with Wonder Woman; you just need to plan on putting the people in place who would use that material; sure, someone would use BDSM with Wonder Woman; I'm sure that most people who wanted to write Wonder Woman would like to have use the BDSM; I can tell, because that's the first thing that came to Grant Morrison's mind about the character; it's just that someone at DC with control over the story telling of the character seems to want it avoided, but the reasons have nothing to do with producing a dismal product which should be the only driving concern; that's a bad approach to business; you should give the consumers what they'd like to see based on which audience is most likely to be more understanding and loyal; the BDSM fan base is just such an audience. Ok, if you believe that 50 Shades of Grey is panned, than I may have misunderstood what you mean; seems like you just think Wonder Woman should be made according to your tastes.

Perez made a lot of great and creative story ideas too; I'd just remove the focus on Greek Mythology and create a script where Wonder Woman's adversaries are a lot more challenging. Perez would definitely make a good consultant for a writer who was trying to make modern day Marston material; he could definitely develop some of the best plots. As with Azz, I'd want to see what he could do with the character if he were given instructions to relax with the Greek Mythology.

A movie about Wonder Woman learning how to live as an outsider is a good idea; except, she should reflect the mindset that Azz produced for the Amazons during his run. To fend off Wonder Woman, people in the outside would learn her weaknesses; that approach would be a great way to introduce a Wonder Woman in the mold of Marston. Self empowerment is just kind of something that certain people attached to her after the fact and something DC did as one of its many experiments to fight the BDSM image from Wonder Woman. Empowerment does not have to be a theme for the character at all and it would be a good idea if DC stopped chasing that shadow. While Marston's Wonder Woman might have said women should not let men tie them up, and I don't recall that ever being the case, after having gone through his run, she was tied up by men in nearly all his issues. I'm not saying that the comic book should be about BDSM to the exclusion of superhero stories either, but BDSM should be brought back into her issues, because it's a theme that Marston intended for the character and the image that immediately comes to mind when thinking about Wonder Woman. Since that's the image anyhow than present it as an image. It's being as far to Wonder Woman as allowing Batman to fight crime in Gotham; image if DC decided to divorce Batman away from crime fighting all of the sudden? Would the character remain as popular or would it become increasingly difficult to craft Batman stories?

@undefined: no Marston option?

@agent41 ... Not true. Marston was very much a Bondage enthusiast and actively wove in these themes into the first 5 years of WWs history. He used it to show his concept of "loving submission" to authority ... Which basically meant "let a woman tie you up and you'll like it"