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#1 Posted by Spastic Man (5 posts) - - Show Bio

This chunk of text was added to the main article. I'm relocating it to the Forum, since it's all someones speculations and personal opinions. This text does not necessarily represent my own opinions, and I don't know who wrote it, but it didn't belong in the main text, it's an editorial:

"''The question that is asked all the time: is Wonder Woman a lesbian? After Seduction of the Innocents by Dr. Fredric Wertham during the 50s, Wonder Woman was suspected to be a lesbian, much like Batman and Robin.

So was Wonder Woman a lesbian, or was she a role model for girls? William Moulton Marston was Wonder Woman's creator, and he was a psychologist, inventing the lie detector, so it was obvious that he knew whatever he was doing; he was doing it on purpose. It's probably true that Marston had put clues in, and the first one is Wonder Woman's friends, being all women, who were called the Holiday Girls, "holiday girls" being a slang word for "lesbian". Another clue was probably the society in which the Amazons lived in, which consisted of only women. It is stated in the main continuity that there are Amazons who were lesbians, and Amazons that were straight as well. It's possible that the Amazons who were lesbians felt that such an attraction was forced upon them, much like the Spartans in same-sex barracks. The soldiers-in-training would practice same-sex practises, only to relieve the basic need for sex. Surrounded by all these "girlfriends", and with that term used, it is possible that they were her lesbian supporting cast. She had an array of them, one being a character named Paula. Various things she says - intentional or not - give the vibe that she herself may be a lesbian as well, and perhaps was attracted to Wonder Woman. Through various adventures, she shows her devotion to her, valuing her life over her own and goes by the logic that her loved one is greater than her own life.

In the 70s, a man named Jim Harmon would support Wertham’s theories in his book All in Colour for a Dime and had stated that Wonder Woman kiss women in her books during the Golden Ages, however, kissing was a rare scene, especially in the Golden Ages. Hugging was seen, but kissing was probably not. Wonder Woman didn't even kiss Steve Trevor during her adventures.

Jules Feiffer who wrote his book The Great Comic Heroes disagrees as he writes that Wonder Woman was not much of a dyke due to her fighting style as it was clean, basing his interpretation of Wonder Woman on the stereotypical dyke, noting that he uses the word “dykey” in his book. Taken from WordNet, which was developed by the Cognitive Science Laboratory at Princeton University, it defines "dyke" as “offensive terms for a lesbian who is noticeably masculine”. It was also during the time of 1965, in which Feiffer’s book was published, and perhaps sexism and stereotypes had been a deciding factor on what his final interpretations were. But it must be noted that Wertham had connected comics and juvenile behaviour, noting most certainly how homosexuality had affected the youth and that Feiffer’s conclusions may have had some connection.

However, people might question why Wonder Woman had a romantic relationship with Steve Trevor but why he was created is the question. It's possible that he was merely a fill-in character, as someone had to play the damsel-in-distress, to create for interesting and death-defying stories. Wonder Woman would always be rejecting his marriage proposals, saving the world first before marriage. It may have clued in how homosexuality was frowned upon, and perhaps even illegal during the Golden Ages.

Wonder Woman was also created because William Moulton Marston saw the DC Universe being dominated by male heroes. He probably wanted to target the comics to little girls and Gloria Steinem was a big supporter of Wonder Woman. She was an editor for Ms. Magazine (which was a feminist magazine) and said "... [Marston] had invented Wonder Woman as a heroine for little girls, and also as a conscious alternative to the violence of comic books for boys." And it Steinem’s quote probably is correct, as Marston wrote in The American Scholar

"It seemed to me, from a psychological angle, that the comics worst offense was their blood-curdling masculinity...it's smart to be strong. It's big to be generous, but it's sissified, according to exclusively male rules to be tender, loving, affectionate...'Ah that's girls stuff!' snorts our comic reader, 'Who wants to be a girl?" And that's the point; not even girls want to be girls as long as their feminine stereotype lacks force...strength."

Basically, he means that the women’s best qualities are their weaknesses and in turn the girls don’t want to be girls themselves because of the male dominating heroes in the DC Universe, let alone any other comics universe. There is also more proof that Marston created Wonder Woman specifically for young girls, as boys and men can be intimidating towards girls. As girls grow, they soon discover the word “sexuality” and as boys grow, they become physically stronger and girls look at that as if good looks were necessary. Not saying that sex doesn’t sell, but intelligence and a strong mind can prevail as Marie Wilson had to say in The Reader's Companion to U.S. Women's History:

"Sexual comments, jokes, and threats become more intimidating as girls develop an understanding of sexuality and as boys, on average, become physically bigger and stronger than girls....they begin to realize that good looks are necessary for certain kinds of success, and that good looks lead to being looked at, which for young adolescent girls can seem threatening."

Girls during the 1940s were taught to be quiet and let the boys handle everything. It is evident in Hitler’s youth camps, where girls were taught that the only reason why they existed was to give birth, nurture children and do many things an average housewife would do as quotes from Hitler would prove:

"Intelligence in a woman is not an essential thing. My mother for example would have cut a poor figure in the society of our cultivated women. She lived strictly for her husband and children. They were her entire universe. But she gave a son to Germany."
... the world of a woman is a smaller world [than a man’s]. For her world is her husband, her family, her children and her house."

Women and girls were oppressed and they needed something to escape to and find a way to express their opinions, and maybe this is another reason why he created Wonder Woman.

Another big sign pointing towards Wonder Woman’s lesbianism is the fact that she could have had two mothers! Just like Virgin Mary, Hippolyta created her child with clay from a seabed because she felt a strange feeling for a child. So Athena, who is a goddess told her to mould clay from a seabed and thus Princess Diana was born! Looking at it from a distance, Diana seems as if she had two mothers: Hippolyta and Athena.

It is hard to tell if Marston had originally intended to put lesbian clues, or if Wertham had made some connections about Wonder Woman and lesbianism but either way, Marston had provided a place away from the “Man’s World”, exclusively allowing girls to focus on themselves if needed, and teaching girls in the 1940s that girls did not need to be oppressed by men, adding that it was okay to express opinions. Of course, this "lesbian" fiasco is not to be out done by the fact that Wonder Woman's only weakness is that if her bracelets are bonded together by a "Man" she will lose her powers. This could be another pointer that Wonder Woman is a lesbian or the creator was trying to put hidden tones in the storylines.

It may be that Wonder Woman may also be bisexual, as she and another Amazon, Io, had reciprocal feelings for each other.

It can also be said that Wonder Woman does not feel she needs to be labelled sexually, and that she is just herself. Coming from a society that was only populated by women, "lesbian" in our eyes may have "straight" for them. The Amazons probably believed that love shouldn't be categorised into sex or race; as long as you loved someone, that it is what mattered to them.''"

#2 Posted by DEADPOOL (2638 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman was probably a lesbian in her native home, but has equally embraced "man's world."

#3 Posted by Spastic Man (5 posts) - - Show Bio

And your basis for assuming that is...?

(Actually that's the whole problem I have with this section-- it just makes assumptions ad gives opinions as if they were proven fact. If you want to say someone is or isn't "probably" a certain way, say WHY you think that. Give citations and evidence from the comic itself. Show what actions and/or statements by the charatcer specifically led you to that conclusion. Otherwise you're just blogging on what's supposed to be an informative site.)

#4 Posted by Lady L (311 posts) - - Show Bio
Spastic Man said:
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This chunk of text was added to the main article. I'm relocating it to the Forum, since it's all someones speculations and personal opinions. This text does not necessarily represent my own opinions, and I don't know who wrote it, but it didn't belong in the main text, it's an editorial:

"''The question that is asked all the time: is Wonder Woman a lesbian? After Seduction of the Innocents by Dr. Fredric Wertham during the 50s, Wonder Woman was suspected to be a lesbian, much like Batman and Robin.

So was Wonder Woman a lesbian, or was she a role model for girls? William Moulton Marston was Wonder Woman's creator, and he was a psychologist, inventing the lie detector, so it was obvious that he knew whatever he was doing; he was doing it on purpose. It's probably true that Marston had put clues in, and the first one is Wonder Woman's friends, being all women, who were called the Holiday Girls, "holiday girls" being a slang word for "lesbian". Another clue was probably the society in which the Amazons lived in, which consisted of only women. It is stated in the main continuity that there are Amazons who were lesbians, and Amazons that were straight as well. It's possible that the Amazons who were lesbians felt that such an attraction was forced upon them, much like the Spartans in same-sex barracks. The soldiers-in-training would practice same-sex practises, only to relieve the basic need for sex. Surrounded by all these "girlfriends", and with that term used, it is possible that they were her lesbian supporting cast. She had an array of them, one being a character named Paula. Various things she says - intentional or not - give the vibe that she herself may be a lesbian as well, and perhaps was attracted to Wonder Woman. Through various adventures, she shows her devotion to her, valuing her life over her own and goes by the logic that her loved one is greater than her own life.

In the 70s, a man named Jim Harmon would support Wertham’s theories in his book All in Colour for a Dime and had stated that Wonder Woman kiss women in her books during the Golden Ages, however, kissing was a rare scene, especially in the Golden Ages. Hugging was seen, but kissing was probably not. Wonder Woman didn't even kiss Steve Trevor during her adventures.

Jules Feiffer who wrote his book The Great Comic Heroes disagrees as he writes that Wonder Woman was not much of a dyke due to her fighting style as it was clean, basing his interpretation of Wonder Woman on the stereotypical dyke, noting that he uses the word “dykey” in his book. Taken from WordNet, which was developed by the Cognitive Science Laboratory at Princeton University, it defines "dyke" as “offensive terms for a lesbian who is noticeably masculine”. It was also during the time of 1965, in which Feiffer’s book was published, and perhaps sexism and stereotypes had been a deciding factor on what his final interpretations were. But it must be noted that Wertham had connected comics and juvenile behaviour, noting most certainly how homosexuality had affected the youth and that Feiffer’s conclusions may have had some connection.

However, people might question why Wonder Woman had a romantic relationship with Steve Trevor but why he was created is the question. It's possible that he was merely a fill-in character, as someone had to play the damsel-in-distress, to create for interesting and death-defying stories. Wonder Woman would always be rejecting his marriage proposals, saving the world first before marriage. It may have clued in how homosexuality was frowned upon, and perhaps even illegal during the Golden Ages.

Wonder Woman was also created because William Moulton Marston saw the DC Universe being dominated by male heroes. He probably wanted to target the comics to little girls and Gloria Steinem was a big supporter of Wonder Woman. She was an editor for Ms. Magazine (which was a feminist magazine) and said "... [Marston] had invented Wonder Woman as a heroine for little girls, and also as a conscious alternative to the violence of comic books for boys." And it Steinem’s quote probably is correct, as Marston wrote in The American Scholar

"It seemed to me, from a psychological angle, that the comics worst offense was their blood-curdling masculinity...it's smart to be strong. It's big to be generous, but it's sissified, according to exclusively male rules to be tender, loving, affectionate...'Ah that's girls stuff!' snorts our comic reader, 'Who wants to be a girl?" And that's the point; not even girls want to be girls as long as their feminine stereotype lacks force...strength."

Basically, he means that the women’s best qualities are their weaknesses and in turn the girls don’t want to be girls themselves because of the male dominating heroes in the DC Universe, let alone any other comics universe. There is also more proof that Marston created Wonder Woman specifically for young girls, as boys and men can be intimidating towards girls. As girls grow, they soon discover the word “sexuality” and as boys grow, they become physically stronger and girls look at that as if good looks were necessary. Not saying that sex doesn’t sell, but intelligence and a strong mind can prevail as Marie Wilson had to say in The Reader's Companion to U.S. Women's History:

"Sexual comments, jokes, and threats become more intimidating as girls develop an understanding of sexuality and as boys, on average, become physically bigger and stronger than girls....they begin to realize that good looks are necessary for certain kinds of success, and that good looks lead to being looked at, which for young adolescent girls can seem threatening."

Girls during the 1940s were taught to be quiet and let the boys handle everything. It is evident in Hitler’s youth camps, where girls were taught that the only reason why they existed was to give birth, nurture children and do many things an average housewife would do as quotes from Hitler would prove:

"Intelligence in a woman is not an essential thing. My mother for example would have cut a poor figure in the society of our cultivated women. She lived strictly for her husband and children. They were her entire universe. But she gave a son to Germany."
... the world of a woman is a smaller world [than a man’s]. For her world is her husband, her family, her children and her house."

Women and girls were oppressed and they needed something to escape to and find a way to express their opinions, and maybe this is another reason why he created Wonder Woman.

Another big sign pointing towards Wonder Woman’s lesbianism is the fact that she could have had two mothers! Just like Virgin Mary, Hippolyta created her child with clay from a seabed because she felt a strange feeling for a child. So Athena, who is a goddess told her to mould clay from a seabed and thus Princess Diana was born! Looking at it from a distance, Diana seems as if she had two mothers: Hippolyta and Athena.

It is hard to tell if Marston had originally intended to put lesbian clues, or if Wertham had made some connections about Wonder Woman and lesbianism but either way, Marston had provided a place away from the “Man’s World”, exclusively allowing girls to focus on themselves if needed, and teaching girls in the 1940s that girls did not need to be oppressed by men, adding that it was okay to express opinions. Of course, this "lesbian" fiasco is not to be out done by the fact that Wonder Woman's only weakness is that if her bracelets are bonded together by a "Man" she will lose her powers. This could be another pointer that Wonder Woman is a lesbian or the creator was trying to put hidden tones in the storylines.

It may be that Wonder Woman may also be bisexual, as she and another Amazon, Io, had reciprocal feelings for each other.

It can also be said that Wonder Woman does not feel she needs to be labeled sexually, and that she is just herself. Coming from a society that was only populated by women, "lesbian" in our eyes may have "straight" for them. The Amazons probably believed that love shouldn't be categorized into sex or race; as long as you loved someone, that it is what mattered to them.''"

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i personally think that Wonder Woman is not gay and whether it was intended for her to be or not that is not even the purpose of why she was created and is irrelevant to anything. I think it is someones arrogance and Wonder Woman is being said to be something more than 'straight' because she is a woman of whom girls should be like and is looked to as equal to a man. Also in one instance In Justice League Unlimited, Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl had to help the gods and restores Hades as Ruler of The Underworld and he gave clues as to who helped Hippolyta mold Diana, suggesting that it was him. Also another thing is that in Justice League Unlimited, it would show Diana finding herself and the true potential of her powers but also some of her and her mothers history. In one episode, Hades took Hippolyta and it was said that they were dating or was married of some sort concluding that that had to have some sort of a relationship and in another episodes with the amazons could show that maybe it was something personal that happened to Hippolyta that had waned herself to be isolated from men. Maybe her bad relationship with Hades caused to her to have a thing out for men in general since Hades isn't that ideal guy you would want to have a relationship in the first place. This could be a personal choice and doesn't give anybody the right to automatically assume where Wonder Woman lived at or her surrounded be woman to her being a lesbian. Also Wonder Woman has a thing for Supes and sometimes Batman :}
#5 Edited by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio

That section of her page needs to be removed. Regardless of whether her people are lesbians or not, she has never demonstrated any signs of lesbianism. That section mentioned that she turned down marriage proposals from Steve Trevor because she had to save the world, but what it fails to address is that she did eventually marry him. Also, in the 40s, homosexuality was very frowned upon. So there is no way in the world that she was made to be a lesbian. Another thing, that article fails to address the immense amount of evidence that points towards her being straight. In New Earth (mainstream), she has had a number of attractions to different men but never any to women. She has been attracted to SuperMan, BatMan, Nemesis, Trevor Barnes, Jonah McCarthy, etc. She has never been shown to be attracted to another woman, whether some Amazons are like that or not.  The whole section is a load of crap and needs to be fixed by someone who's actually read a Wonder Woman comic. 

#6 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio

*wait are u sayin wonder woman isnt a lesbian feminist?*

#7 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One: A feminist? Probably, yeah. A lesbian? Prove it.
#8 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: she lived in a Island where Men were not permitted to stay... trained to believe Men are War Hungry... and etc... Gods Mistake or whatever...
 
its Human nature... to Love...
 
What do u think they do?
#9 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One: Have there been any showings of lesbianism by her? Regardless of whether or not some of the Amazons are lesbians, Wonder Woman has never demonstrated any such behaviors. She's only been shown attracted to men. They've never even implied that she is; there may have been implications that some of her people are but never her. Show me a panel where it shows or says that she's a lesbian, and I'll believe you. Otherwise, your case is void. Read the list of men she's been attracted to in my previous post again; then, try to come up with a list of women she's been attracted to. Although the women she's been attracted to list might be kind of hard to come up with considering she's never been shown to be attracted to other women.
#10 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: shes a feminist... theres a sign
 she grew up with Lesbians who hated men...
she was taught to believe men are evil...
she leaves... and then shes Bi...  
 
2nd ur taking this too serious...
#11 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One: First, not all feminists are lesbians. A lot of feminists just sleep with a bunch of different guys. Second, you can't prove that all of the Amazons are lesbians. Third, if she was bi, she would be shown attracted to other women as well as men; yet, she's only shown attracted to men. Again, make a list of women she's been attracted to. I'd like to see it. If you can't make it, you have no case.
#12 Edited by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: I. this started out as a Joke
II. ur still taking this too serious
III. she lives in a Island where they HATE MEN... What do they love then?
IV. U cant prove anything its FICTION
V. Heres the list
  
 
AGAMEDE 'very cunning'
Founder of a city named for herself on the Amazon. Her 1st crush

MYRTO 'Sea Goddess'
Named for Aphrodite as a stormy, warlike Sea Goddess, this Amazon warrior was mother of Autolycus, who
was later conveniently stripped of his Amazon associations. Her 1 time.

  DORIS 'bountiful'

Named for the Great Goddess of the Dorians, which suggests that she was an immigrant. She was a spear
wielder in the Attic War. The girl she almost got married with

The rest have been flings or signs of attraction and the names have been long forgotten


#13 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One: Where have she been shown with these women? Show it to me.
#14 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: 
Oh that book is illegal... i cant show it to u... its called Wonder Womans Secret
#15 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One: What are you talking about? I'm pretty sure you're just joking, but I've presented real arguments here. You said I'm taking this too seriously. I don't care. Prove to me on panel any attraction she's had to another woman, and I'll believe you.
#16 Posted by Harlekin (684 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not saying she is gay but would not be surprised if she was bi.

#17 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467:  doode i jus think she was a lesbian that saw what men had and now is Straight/Bi whatever u wanna call it... thats all... for the simple fictional fact... that she grew up on a Island where there are only Women... and all the women hate men... and she stayed there for a long time... what u think she did... love herself threw out the years... thats all im sayin... and besides that are questionable images... like the one Harlekin posted...
#18 Edited by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One: That's probably because homosexuality is very accepted nowadays, and she wanted to point out that she wants to kill any ideas that she's a lesbian. You know, in Greek mythology, the Amazons would travel to another island to have sex with men so they could reproduce. Granted, they didn't do this in DC. I mean, we can't expect them to make everything perfectly accurate to Greek mythology. Heck, Diana doesn't even exist in Greek mythology. Diana was actually a Roman goddess who was the equivalent of Greek mythologies Artemis. (Not Artemis the Amazon in DC; Artemis the goddess of the forest, hunt, moon, fertility, etc. Just in case you don't know, DC does actually have two characters named Artemis. The Amazon and the goddess.) So, in DC the Amazons didn't do that; however, they did all sleep with Hercules's army before he betrayed them. Look, bottom line, she's not a lesbian, dude. They've never shown her attracted to another woman.
#19 Edited by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: so they would have sex to reproduce that doesnt prove that they were attracted to men...
2nd... this is DComics were talking about... not the actual mythology... 
and in the comics they lived in a Island... ah u kno what im goin to type... 
 
but whatevers... its still a joke i use... so... $#@! it shes not a lesbo... except on my Universe... she is...
 
edit:
"she wanted to point out that she wants to kill any ideas that she's a lesbian"
then why didnt she add... i never had one as well
#20 Edited by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One said:

" @Silver2467: so they would have sex to reproduce that doesnt prove that they werent attracted to men...

I'm not sure I understand that statement. I don't know if it was just a typo or a misstroke, but it kinda contradicts itself.  
 
 
Look, it's just that there isn't sufficient evidence to prove she is or was a lesbian. They've never shown her attracted to another woman. Neither her nor Donna Troy. In fact, Donna's gotten around a little bit actually; so we know she's not a lesbian. She was married. But that's beside the point. Diana's never shown any sign of lesbianism or bisexuality. If she was bi, they'd show her attracted to women, but they've never done that. They've only shown her attracted to men. That's the point I've been trying to make. Another thing, as I said in my first post here, in the 40s homosexuality was considered to be a completely disgusting practice. It was not accepted very much in America. So it's unlikely that she was created to be a lesbian; especially considering that on that earth, she married Steve Trevor. Other than the "Women-only island" argument, there's absolutely no proof of Wonder Woman being homosexual. In fact, that argument isn't sufficient either, because they've never shown, stated, or even implied that she's had a relationship with a woman while she was on Themyscira. So, no Wonder Woman is not a lesbian.
#21 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: it was a misstroke... 
 
and again the proof thing... its fiction... what Proof?
 
and i already said u won... 
 
and that she is a lesbian... on my universe... hehehehe
#22 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yung ANcient One: OK. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to drag it on; I just don't see the evidence for it. That's all. As far as your statement, "its fiction... what Proof?" thing, fiction can still be speculated. In fact, a lot of writers take time to read between the lines and infer what they think authors of various writings are trying to say. So, I mean yeah, it's fiction; so it's gonna have little to no significance in reality. But, for those of us who like comics, we're here to discuss them. So, not saying I disagree with you; I'm just saying, these things are debated. 
@Yung ANcient One said:
" @Silver2467: and that she is a lesbian... on my universe... hehehehe "
Is that like your fantasy? Ha ha ha. I'm not trying to make fun of you; I'm just joking. 
#23 Posted by WW-Fan (2728 posts) - - Show Bio

she is not a lesbian
#24 Posted by DEGRAAF (7913 posts) - - Show Bio

she has atleast shown attraction to superman and most recently in blackest night shared her thoughts with mera and mera saw that she cared for and maybe even loved Bruce as well
#25 Edited by WW-Fan (2728 posts) - - Show Bio
@DEGRAAF:
yup! and she was Dating Nemesis  and had a crush on Steve Trevor once
#26 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@WW-Fan: I mentioned in one of my previous posts that she's been attracted to SuperMan, BatMan, Nemesis, Trevor Barnes, Jonah McCarthy, and some others. There's no evidence to say she's a lesbian.
#27 Posted by MrDirector786 (43646 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman isn't a lesbian at all.

#28 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously, someone really needs to fix that part of her page. It sounds like whoever wrote it is trying to make her sound like a lesbian. If no one else fixes it, I will. I'll give it a little time though. But this whole debate is just stupid. It shouldn't even be an issue; she's not a lesbian.

#29 Posted by WW-Fan (2728 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467:
i deleted it
#30 Edited by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@WW-Fan: Oh, thank you. So you just have to wait for someone from comicvine to decide whether they accept your changes or not, right?
#31 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" It shouldn't even be an issue; she's not a lesbian. "
#32 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio

haha, she's in love with Supes!

#33 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64: She was at least. Hey, weren't we just talking on the other forum? Are we gonna have two conversations going now?
#34 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: Yes...yes we are.two different things...lol
#35 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64: What do you think? You think Wonder Woman's a lesbian?
#36 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: Na, she might be bi though.Like i said she loves Supes and probably bats too.
#37 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64: Ha ha ha! Being attracted to two people isn't exactly what bi means, man. I know you were just joking, and it was a good joke actually. 
#38 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: LOL! i meant that she might like women too...maybe.
#39 Posted by CellphoneGirl (18764 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't really think Wonder Woman is.

#40 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
" haha, she's in love with Supes! "


#41 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64: Well, they've never shown her to be. She's never had any attractions to other women; so unless they show her doing so, I don't think she's bi. It's not a bad supposition; it just kinda lacks evidence. No offense.  
 
@Primmaster64 said:
" @Silver2467: Na, she might be bi though.Like i said she loves Supes and probably bats too. "
On my earlier comment, it's just that this comment makes it sound like she's bi because she likes two different guys. That's all. I know that's not what you were saying; that's just how it sounded based on this comment. It was actually pretty funny though; I got a good laugh out of it and thanks for that. 
#42 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio

#43 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: I see..
#44 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman doesn't "love" Superman. She loved Nemesis, and recently revealed she's always loved Bruce Wayne/Batman.

#45 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64: That picture's from All-Star. So it's not mainstream. But she has made out with Supes in the mainstream though.
#46 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
" Wonder Woman doesn't "love" Superman. 
I think she has at one point or another though. They have shown the two kiss (not just in the All-Star scan that Primmaster64 showed). So, now of course she doesn't because Supes is married. But, I think it was a possibility at one point. 
#47 Posted by ReverseNegative (2710 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
"Wonder Woman doesn't "love" Superman. She loved Nemesis, and recently revealed she's always loved Bruce Wayne/Batman. "

Batman always gets the good ones. LOL.
#48 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @Gambler said:
" Wonder Woman doesn't "love" Superman. 
I think she has at one point or another though. They have shown the two kiss (not just in the All-Star scan that Primmaster64 showed). So, now of course she doesn't because Supes is married. But, I think it was a possibility at one point.  "
Certain writers over the years (mostly Pre Crisis) have tried to establish a relationship there, but neither one in the current continuity have expressed "love" in the relationship since towards one another. She's actually come out and said she "loves" Nemesis, as well as Batman. Kingdom Come Wonder Woman was in love with Superman, but I dont recall current Wonder Woman ever being so.
#49 Edited by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative: Yeah, actually he does. Catwoman, Talia, Zatanna, Wonder Woman. He's a rich bachelor. But more importantly, he's BatMan. What do you expect? 
#50 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: Not sure if this is from Pre-crisi era...
but yes she likes bats too

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