Is Wonder Woman's Outfit the Reason that Movie Studios Don't Take Her Seriously?

....I think so. All my friends WW is a sex symbol.

Hollywood is too politically correct. Her skimpy outfit would upset some PC people. If they altered her outfit to keep the PC people quiet, then the WW fans would be upset.

What??
 
If anything Hollywood would bank on an attractive, half naked woman

@cattlebattle said:

What?? If anything Hollywood would bank on an attractive, half naked woman

Most likely.

I think it's more along the lines that casual audiences don't really understand the character.

The only way I see a Wonder Woman movie working is if they take a Xena like approach. Keep it in Thermyscera and with the Amazons and have some supernatural elements to it. If they take Wonder Woman and put her in the modern world... i just don't see it working on film.

@cattlebattle said:

What?? If anything Hollywood would bank on an attractive, half naked woman

Most likely.

I think it's more along the lines that casual audiences don't really understand the character.

@cattlebattle said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@cattlebattle said:

What?? If anything Hollywood would bank on an attractive, half naked woman

Most likely.

I think it's more along the lines that casual audiences don't really understand the character.

Whats to understand really? Wonder Woma, like Superman and Batman is one of those characters everyone knows. My one sister, has never read a comic in her life and will still pretend to deflect bullets when she wears an enormous bracelet....everyone knows Wonder Womans deal

Agreed on all this. I think it's a matter of how they would tell her story. Like would it be against cheetah or a greek mythology route. It could either turn out great like 300 or horrible like every other movie like that.

@cattlebattle said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@cattlebattle said:

What?? If anything Hollywood would bank on an attractive, half naked woman

Most likely.

I think it's more along the lines that casual audiences don't really understand the character.

Whats to understand really? Wonder Woma, like Superman and Batman is one of those characters everyone knows. My one sister, has never read a comic in her life and will still pretend to deflect bullets when she wears an enormous bracelet....everyone knows Wonder Womans deal

The majority of my friends merely consider her as the female stripper version of Superman. I base it off that.

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Going down the animated Wonder Woman film wouldn't be a bad idea since that was a pretty solid entry.

No, it's not. Not at all.

@cattlebattle said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@cattlebattle said:

What?? If anything Hollywood would bank on an attractive, half naked woman

Most likely.

I think it's more along the lines that casual audiences don't really understand the character.

Whats to understand really? Wonder Woma, like Superman and Batman is one of those characters everyone knows. My one sister, has never read a comic in her life and will still pretend to deflect bullets when she wears an enormous bracelet....everyone knows Wonder Womans deal

The majority of my friends merely consider her as the female stripper version of Superman. I base it off that.

@cattlebattle: No you're correct, they're pretty much airheads involving anything in the comic-book world.

no, superman was and is a big sucess overall and he is a dude in tights.............

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Going down the animated Wonder Woman film wouldn't be a bad idea since that was a pretty solid entry.

I loved the animated film but I think it would be much harder to pull off as a live-action thing. Greek mythology films, in my opinion, seem to be cursed with being horrible movies. Clash of the Titans and Immortal are two that come to mind which is why I'm uncertain if a Wonder Woman film will be successful.

No.

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Going down the animated Wonder Woman film wouldn't be a bad idea since that was a pretty solid entry.

I loved the animated film but I think it would be much harder to pull off as a live-action thing. Greek mythology films, in my opinion, seem to be cursed with being horrible movies. Clash of the Titans and Immortal are two that come to mind which is why I'm uncertain if a Wonder Woman film will be successful.

I blame it on the writers, not the era.

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Going down the animated Wonder Woman film wouldn't be a bad idea since that was a pretty solid entry.

I loved the animated film but I think it would be much harder to pull off as a live-action thing. Greek mythology films, in my opinion, seem to be cursed with being horrible movies. Clash of the Titans and Immortal are two that come to mind which is why I'm uncertain if a Wonder Woman film will be successful.

I blame it on the writers, not the era.

This is true. WW would need an amazing writer as well as a ton of money invested into it. If it's anything like GL effects-wise, I'd punch the movie screen.

@Aiden Cross said:

The only way I see a Wonder Woman movie working is if they take a Xena like approach. Keep it in Thermyscera and with the Amazons and have some supernatural elements to it. If they take Wonder Woman and put her in the modern world... i just don't see it working on film.

The fact the she has no equivalent to real well-known arch-nemesis, in the vein of Batman and Joker or Superman and Lex Luthor, doesn't help. Infact, her rogues gallery is neither as well-developed or as well-known as the rest of DC's trinity. She also didn't get an animated series like Superman and Batman did, so a lot of the younger people, around my age, won't really know much about her.

I wish they could make a movie but:

1.She wears a stripper outfit

2.Wearing the american colors despite not being american herself(They could change it to her new52 color)

3.Her villains are not known

4.Confusing origin

They should make an animated series first. I would love that more.

I think it is more so that she has no canonical story to tell, her origin is kind of bizarre for mainstream Hollywood and she has not really well defined arch enemy.

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Going down the animated Wonder Woman film wouldn't be a bad idea since that was a pretty solid entry.

I loved the animated film but I think it would be much harder to pull off as a live-action thing. Greek mythology films, in my opinion, seem to be cursed with being horrible movies. Clash of the Titans and Immortal are two that come to mind which is why I'm uncertain if a Wonder Woman film will be successful.

I blame it on the writers, not the era.

This is true. WW would need an amazing writer as well as a ton of money invested into it. If it's anything like GL effects-wise, I'd punch the movie screen.

Oh god... How I wished Green Lantern actually succeeded...

I would actually agree. It's very much why I prefer the Wonder Woman Odyssey approach. The long pants, the gladiator-esque arm gear and the near fully covering jacket. It removes her sex-symbol label and gives her strength without objectifying her.

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Going down the animated Wonder Woman film wouldn't be a bad idea since that was a pretty solid entry.

I loved the animated film but I think it would be much harder to pull off as a live-action thing. Greek mythology films, in my opinion, seem to be cursed with being horrible movies. Clash of the Titans and Immortal are two that come to mind which is why I'm uncertain if a Wonder Woman film will be successful.

I blame it on the writers, not the era.

This is true. WW would need an amazing writer as well as a ton of money invested into it. If it's anything like GL effects-wise, I'd punch the movie screen.

Oh god... How I wished Green Lantern actually succeeded...

So do I. That's why we have to look forward to Green Lantern 2 being TDK-esque and hope the Sinestro Wars is written out amazingly (if they decide to go with that route)

@ArturoCalaKayVee: If a sequel even becomes green-lit, which I doubt considering how much of a bomb the first was. I hope they make a sequel and hopefully they learn from their mistakes.

@Deranged Midget said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: If a sequel even becomes green-lit, which I doubt considering how much of a bomb the first was. I hope they make a sequel and hopefully they learn from their mistakes.

The sequel has been green-lit and I'm pretty sure so has the third.

@Aiden Cross said:

The only way I see a Wonder Woman movie working is if they take a Xena like approach. Keep it in Thermyscera and with the Amazons and have some supernatural elements to it. If they take Wonder Woman and put her in the modern world... i just don't see it working on film.

Exactly this. If they try to do anything else, the entire movie will just turn into a cheeseball.

Take a chance Director's and screen writers, you never know the outcome.

It's not the costume it's finding the actress to put in the costume. WW is an amazon, you can't put some 5' 5" 120 lb emaciated Hollywood type in her boots. The chick they tried to have portray her in the failed NBC series didn't look anything like WW.

No a woman constantly in T and A accentuating swimwear just screams respect me

No.

@Raiiyn said:

@Aiden Cross said:

The only way I see a Wonder Woman movie working is if they take a Xena like approach. Keep it in Thermyscera and with the Amazons and have some supernatural elements to it. If they take Wonder Woman and put her in the modern world... i just don't see it working on film.

Exactly this. If they try to do anything else, the entire movie will just turn into a cheeseball.

i didn't want to put it quite like that, but yes :p

But to say Wonder Woman doesn't have any interesting villains i don't quite agree with. Ares, Circe, Anann, Hades or Hercules (probably not Hercules because he's already viewed as a hero by the majority :P).. could all work in a movie.

I wish we could have seen Joss's vision of her come to life. I liked the way he described his take on her.

@lykopis said:

@Raiiyn said:

@Aiden Cross said:

The only way I see a Wonder Woman movie working is if they take a Xena like approach. Keep it in Thermyscera and with the Amazons and have some supernatural elements to it. If they take Wonder Woman and put her in the modern world... i just don't see it working on film.

Exactly this. If they try to do anything else, the entire movie will just turn into a cheeseball.

Well -- if they keep it in Ancient Greece -- then Wonder Woman kind of loses her allure. I agree with the focus on her warrior-ness, and yes, based in Thermyscera - but it needs to be in the modern world or the audience will not be interested.

Well, they want to lead it up to an Justice League movie, yeah? They would surely have to introduce her character to humanity beforehand, otherwise there's that awkward stage where she is till finding herself, in a team movie. She won't get enough spotlight for that, so I would say she needs to be introduced to the modern world in her own movie, but keep it simple.

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Really? Well that's a pleasant surprise if I ever heard one.

@Aiden Cross: I agree, they have worked in the animated ones why not live action?

@lykopis said:

@Raiiyn said:

@Aiden Cross said:

The only way I see a Wonder Woman movie working is if they take a Xena like approach. Keep it in Thermyscera and with the Amazons and have some supernatural elements to it. If they take Wonder Woman and put her in the modern world... i just don't see it working on film.

Exactly this. If they try to do anything else, the entire movie will just turn into a cheeseball.

Well -- if they keep it in Ancient Greece -- then Wonder Woman kind of loses her allure. I agree with the focus on her warrior-ness, and yes, based in Thermyscera - but it needs to be in the modern world or the audience will not be interested.

I don't agree with that. They can make it an origin story and end with a cut scene of her just getting to America for the first time. I don't think we actually need to see her walking around town in her costume for the movie to work.

@Hawkeye446: Definitely agree. They can't do a JL until a solo movie is done for all of them.

@lykopis: Then maybe WW in the modern world won't be so cheesy either? A sequel can have a run in with *shudders with disgust* .. batman *cringe* or other members of the JL? Make the sequel a lead up to a JL movie? =) OO OO OO we can even make Circe the villain in the sequel!! Eek I already like the sequel better then the first one... Why aren't the studios who write DC movies as creative as I am -.- grrrrrrrrr

@lykopis:

Remember that. **chases Lyko with hammer**

@lykopis:

How hard could a WW movie be? 300 meets Captain America the first Avenger. You start with some hardcore amazon shiz and go into Wonder Woman bein a bad ass in World War II

@Blood1991 said:

How hard could a WW movie be? 300 meets Captain America the first Avenger. You start with some hardcore amazon shiz and go into Wonder Woman bein a bad ass in World War II

So true ae. It's just finding the right actress

its the powers that be not her costume that keeps her out of films.didio or whoever is running dc has seemed to convince people that she wont sell because she is female or not popular enough.which is bulll.she IS the most popular female in comics.she IS one of the most popular comic icons of all time,hands down.every female action flick is already compared to WW without her even having a film.the movie will do well,better that green lantern if one ever gets made just on sheer popularity of the charecter.my nephew may know who green lantern is but my nephew ,mom,grand dad and neice all know who wonder woman is.with films like 300,immortals,gladitor..they can do wonders for the woman.and as far as story lines go,hell just pic up the 1st arc of the perez run.perfect for adaptation

@Cirelick:LOL at Hollywood being PC.

No, it's not her classic & iconic outfit. If they think it is, they are wrong.

They most likely doubt the character's ability to draw a huge audience to the box office.

@Captain13: not to sound dickish but you don't know alot about marketing do you?

the costume is a a studios dream. the problem is how can we have a sexy costume but make her a strong woman lead.like it or not sexy costume = you get kidnapped or tied up for a male hero to save at least to mainstream america.

WW is probably the worst character in comic book history (to get right), a super-powered babe with mythological origins, wears a bathing suit, lasso of truth-bondage themes. It's a tough sell, I can think of dozens of characters any exec would rather greenlight than WW.

You don't want to be the guy pitching WW to the execs because you know one of them is going to ask if you have a shrine dedicated to her at home if you sound too positive about her and they will stop listening if you try to relativate it too much ...

Batman sells itself because he's Dark(tm), that's all you need to sell a character these days. You need to make WW rock and roll, you need a ton of gee-wiz Avengers moments, big laughs and payoffs, she has to ooze sexy without being vulgar, she has to be badass without looking butch, she has to be funny without being camp, she has to have convictions built from massively condensed pulsar matter and do the right thing and have people cheer when she does. And on top of all you need an actress with a truckload of charisma and the acting chops to sell you the character in a 30 second teaser.

@kapitein_zeppos said:

WW is probably the worst character in comic book history (to get right), a super-powered babe with mythological origins, wears a bathing suit, lasso of truth-bondage themes. It's a tough sell, I can think of dozens of characters any exec would rather greenlight than WW.

You don't want to be the guy pitching WW to the execs because you know one of them is going to ask if you have a shrine dedicated to her at home if you sound too positive about her and they will stop listening if you try to relativate it too much ...

Batman sells itself because he's Dark(tm), that's all you need to sell a character these days. You need to make WW rock and roll, you need a ton of gee-wiz Avengers moments, big laughs and payoffs, she has to ooze sexy without being vulgar, she has to be badass without looking butch, she has to be funny without being camp, she has to have convictions built from massively condensed pulsar matter and do the right thing and have people cheer when she does. And on top of all you need an actress with a truckload of charisma and the acting chops to sell you the character in a 30 second teaser.

AWWH come now you have a Super all powerful being SUPERMAN who comes from another planet and can pretty much do anything. His disquise is a simple pair of glasses and nobody can figure out who he is. He is all poweful but chooses to remain and protect only metropolis. Dont get me started on Aquaman Martian Man Hunter and Green Lantern.

LOL no Wonder Woman is really NOT a tough sell SHE is pretty standard Superhero and potentially way more believable then the others. The only problem concerning Wonder Woman is which version of her to use. The Lynda Carter Campy type or the Comicbook Version. That is the ONLY real issue. Most main stream people know of the Lynda Carter TYPE Just like most main stream people knew only of the ADAM WEST Batman before Keton did the movie and he be came what he is today. A Wonder Woman movie could be a hugh hit if done right and her powerset and origin is NOT whats holding her back.

I don't get Wonder Woman's outfit, so maybe yes. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around her outfit and this maybe even gets in the way of me enjoying her series.

It she a greek god, is she an amazon? What does her star-spangled outfit have to do with either of those? It's not even a cool looking outfit.

Also when I try to imagine a WW movie it seems like she is too strong to make it work. Maybe if it she was severely powered down it could work in a Xena-Warrior-Princess-esque way. In fact it could be an action comedy and her outfit would actually fit somewhat, but it doesn't have to go that route. But maybe changing her outfit is in order.