Is Johns trying to bring back that stupid alter ego?

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#1 Posted by jointron33 (1902 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn it to hell, Johns is trying to force feed us the RETARDED golden/silver age alter ego, Diana Prince, complete with the librarian glasses. Just let some old school $h1t die and burn in hell, like Perez intended for it to.

#2 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: just because she has on glasses and another appearance doesn't mean that's diana prince.All they were saying was that the people don't see people like them having lives outside of being superheroes.And she was enjoying the dinner,as she stated,it was never even said that she was gonna lose her powers and become a spy again...never

#3 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: the only thing was the look...that is it,never said to be diana prince,so please...calm down

#4 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

Well we know he has a Silver Age fetish so this really shouldn't be a shock

#5 Posted by SmashBrawler (5654 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

Well we know he has a Silver Age fetish so this really shouldn't be a shock

Yup.

#6 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

What josh said

#7 Posted by jointron33 (1902 posts) - - Show Bio

She needs to learn to care for others.....cuz she TOTALLY HASN'T ALREADY SHOWN THAT IN HER OWN FREAKING BOOK!!!!!

#8 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

And besides,I hear that other people like it...although I wouldn't expect her to be going on ARGUS missions anytime soon.Or ever.

#9 Edited by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

what are you talking about?!

Am I reading the same title as everyone else.Because in Justice League and Her comic,she seems to really care for others,in fact,hasn't she shown it more than once.

Well,I don't know,I am confused

#10 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

If the cw tv show materializes, they will probably use Diana Prince and this could influence the comics to also have Diana Prince again.

#11 Posted by jointron33 (1902 posts) - - Show Bio

God no......just......god no.....do we need MORE contradictions to her ACTUAL FREAKING BOOK????!!! Not to mention the fact that this aspect of the character has been DEAD AND GONE SINCE THE 80s!!!!! That's like bringing back Silver Age Jimmy Olsen for the Man of Steel movie or giving Green Arrow his Golden Age Arrowcar and Arrowmobile. Some things should just DIE.

#12 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: well I agree,but your being a bit unreasonable.

And (PM me) of the contradictions....

#13 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: and can't be as much as the old WW.

And please stop freaking out!

#14 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: At this point I'm shocked he hasn't given Superman his super ventriloquism back.

#15 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

When the first wonder woman tv show season one was set in World War 2, the comics moved to earth 2 World War 2 stories. When the first wonder woman tv show switched to modern times, the comics also switched to modern times. So strange things do happen in comics because of tv shows.

#16 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: what is that?

#17 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it was more easter egg than anything else.

#18 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: One of the many abilities Superman seemed to pull out of his ass during the Silver age

#19 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg said:

I think it was more easter egg than anything else.

this

@joshmightbe:

Like sneezing an entire galaxy away?

#20 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: Or making tiny clones of himself

#21 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe
Oh SA...But wasn't Batman and Green lantern just as ridicules?
#22 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: oh god....the pain

#23 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@SandMan_: Oh no Batman had some straight up idiotic crap going on like the Rainbow Bat suits, a uhaul worth of items in his belt, a borderline magic/psychic Bat computer. SA Batman was like an acid trip at Disney world

#24 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Diana Prince should use a disguise like a beard similar to the movie Clark Kent ?

#25 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@SandMan_: Oh no Batman had some straight up idiotic crap going on like the Rainbow Bat suits, a uhaul worth of items in his belt, a borderline magic/psychic Bat computer. SA Batman was like an acid trip at Disney world

Bwahahaha! That made my night sir.
 
And GL? He could freaking produce kryptonite man.
#26 Posted by SmashBrawler (5654 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@jointron33: At this point I'm shocked he hasn't given Superman his super ventriloquism back.

He's too in love with the Donner movies to do something like that.

#27 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@SandMan_: The only thing I actually like about Silver Age DC was the borderline torture that Jimmy Olsen went through but that's only because I've never really liked him

#28 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: But then again...Who actually does?
 
He's not in Man Of Steel.
 
Man Supes needs a better supporting cast.
#29 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@SandMan_: If they'd did a Comic called everybody hates Jimmy and just featured him getting killed over and over like Kenny from South Park I would buy every issue

#30 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: Its time to ditch him.
#31 Posted by StarKiller809 (1238 posts) - - Show Bio

I saw this is Justice League #15. I think it might be an interesting idea, but it goes against everything that has happened in Wonder Woman and I really hope that they think about that before they give her anything. 

#32 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

A Diana Prince identity might be useful if Wonder Woman wants to have sexual relations with humans in peace without being bothered by super villains.

#33 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@StarKiller809: well all they did was make her have dinner with clark and she said that she enjoyed it and that she can't believe that the disguise is working.Clark was there explaining to her that the reason his disguise works is because people don't expect people like him to have lives outside of fighting crime.That was it...I never saw her lose her powers and learn Karate.

#34 Posted by StarKiller809 (1238 posts) - - Show Bio
@cameron83: I'm not talking about that iChing thing. I'm just talking about a secret identity. 
 
There is no way there are going to do that white suit again. 
#35 Edited by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@StarKiller809: I think we should wait and see what happens..

@colonyofcells said:

A Diana Prince identity might be useful if Wonder Woman wants to have sexual relations with humans in peace without being bothered by super villains.

Good thing diana prince is gone,although I don't know how she got her powers back in the old universe.But all this was was a simple dinner under disguise,that is it.If they bring back diana prince,I bet that they are only bringing back the name,that is all...no depowerment or anything.Just the identity,and that is only IF they bring it back.Which nobody knows if she is,people are already getting mad when nothing was confirmed and the focus was to mainly explain how his alter ego works.

It was a nice scene,though.

#36 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@StarKiller809: what's Iching

But maybe,and this is only if they do take the name,but maybe she is just adopting the name and that is all...I guess that's it,maybe it's to have a social life,maybe it won't happen,who knows....

#37 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish I had seen this thread before so I could post some visual reference.

I think this is great actually but there is a light discrepancy between her title and these panels from JL 15. In her book it seems like she knows how to get around in public, taking off the tiara and putting on some plain cloths, like in the scene where they meet Lennox for the first time, in a London café. She has an apartment in London and she hit the bar scene with Strife and Zola without one bit of fanfare.

I think that I am one of the few people that is for the return of the Diana Prince persona. I look at it in the same fashion that they changed Captain Marvel's name to SHAZAM officially, it's what Pop Culture remembers about the character. I also think that forcing creative teams to work in this dynamic would help to create some stability around her if she's to be teamed with Steve Trevor and Etta Candy again. Perhaps she should run the occasional mission with ARGUS to help reestablish that dynamic with familiar supporting casts.

#38 Edited by jphulk26 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: @cameron83 said:

@jointron33: well I agree,but your being a bit unreasonable.

And (PM me) of the contradictions....

@joshmightbe said:

@cameron83: Or making tiny clones of himself

I think the OP is being a bit over the top. All this Geoff Johns hate, because he put her and supes together, I didn´t like that, but he´s done it in a mostly respectful way of WW character and actually I´ve enjoyed JL mostly. I just don´t want supes giving her anymore life lessons she´s smart enough herself. I don´t think its as good as some runs or even one of the best JL runs, but out of the New 52 titles I enjoy it personally. Its better than WW solo. If he brings back Diana Prince, I just think it depends how he approaches it. I think people should see where he goes with it.

His Shazaam stuff is pretty cool as well and Aquaman fans are happier with him than WW fans are with Azzerrello. He´s writing much better stuff than most of New 52.

#39 Edited by jphulk26 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: what you wanna ditch jimmy olsen? guys, he´s no ones fav, but he´s a good part of supes mythos. not everyone likes Robin, but ditching him is drastic.

@StarKiller809 said:

I saw this is Justice League #15. I think it might be an interesting idea, but it goes against everything that has happened in Wonder Woman and I really hope that they think about that before they give her anything.

I hope sincerely they stop calling that publication Azzerrello is writing WW, start calling it Drama Of The Gods or something, and start actually doing WW comics again. Like superhero stuff, secret identity, supervillains etc. Thats what I hope. WW needs stability, not some guy on an acid trip with a weird beard running riot on her mythology. Don´t get me wrong its a cool comic and idea for WW, but it shouldn´t be her main publication. Mainly because its not her. Az is getting it wrong not Geoff.

#40 Posted by jointron33 (1902 posts) - - Show Bio

That secret identity bullshit hasn't been part of her since the 80s. Hell even when Perez did reboot a lot of her villains it was based in mythology(I.e. cheetah)

#41 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@Press Oblivion: oh,well in that case....

@jphulk26:

well I think Azzarello is doing her amazingly.I like the family ties,and of course she is gonna run in with her family members.

@jointron33: but she still has the mythology ties (I am pretty sure of it.Well this is just my opinion)

#42 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: I don't hate Johns, he's a very good writer he just has a tendency to let his love for the most absurd era of comics history influence his stories more than they should on occasion and it stirs up memories of the oh so easy to ridicule silver age. Basically he makes himself an easy target. And Jimmy Olsen is one of my most hated characters so you'll get no sympathy from me in that area.

#43 Posted by jphulk26 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: Yeah, but he didn´t fundementally change her origin he enhanced it. As for WW being about mythology, I think most of the good writers of her have dealt with the the gods and other mythological creatures; people go on like Azz is the first to do that. I actually think his run on WW is interesting in and of itself, but she´s been made boring, one dimensional; all I hear to describe her by people who like her run is capable and compassionate, as if that is all WW has grown to be. Half her powers are gone which pisses me off. What was wrong with animal empathy, I thought it was actually quite cool, especially when she used it with hunting animals like wolves or eagles as a battle strategy. Also how is an invisible or stealth plane uncool, but the bat plane kicks ass? That makes so much sense. I think they just need to think what was WW in her coolest runs ever and modernise that, is that so bloody hard?

Sorry for the rant, I know that isn´t an exact reply to what you said, but its just been boring for me since JMS and BA have just been pissing all over WW mythology - I just want to buy a WW comic. Then I can think about getting some other weird acid trip WW story if I want to. Geoff Johns JL has been the closest to that for me, inspite of major flaws. The rest of what New 52 is doing has just been too out there.

#44 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13011 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33 said:

That secret identity bullshit hasn't been part of her since the 80s. Hell even when Perez did reboot a lot of her villains it was based in mythology(I.e. cheetah)

Actually, it was revived during Gail Simone's run if im not mistaken.

#45 Posted by joshmightbe (24884 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no problem with WW getting a secret identity so long as she doesn't go back to powerless Karate woman we're cool

#46 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

I have no problem with WW getting a secret identity so long as she doesn't go back to powerless Karate woman we're cool

yup

#47 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: well for one,batman cannot fly.

And as long as wonder woman cannot be seen in the plane,and it actually looks magic based,I am fine with it.

#48 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83 said:

@Press Oblivion: oh,well in that case...

Sorry dude, I wasn't trying to be contrary, just my opinion.

#49 Posted by cameron83 (7233 posts) - - Show Bio

@Press Oblivion: No don't worry dude,you weren't being contrary,but thanks anyway

:)

#50 Posted by RazzaTazz (9611 posts) - - Show Bio

The thing which bothered me about that is that she has divine wisdom but she can't figure out how to make a secret identity?

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