@jayc1324: Yeah,but only a bit

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she power girl super girl big barda maxima are the strongest for me. Her as the strongest i don't know i say maxima is stronger than her

If Wonderwoman -is- the strongest. I'd be disappointed.

Someone stated it earlier in this thread but personally for me it's:

Maxima> Wonder Woman> Power Girl> Supergirl

From what I've seen power girl is stronger and Supergirl will be one day.

No.

@agent41: Supergirl has never matured and grown enough to beat wonder woman in comics but eventually she will. There's really no arguing it, the sun will charge her continually and she will eventually become stronger

@agent41: Being stronger than wonder woman doesn't make her a superman equal. Wonder woman is weaker than superman. But yes, Supergirl will continually get stronger and eventually surpass wonder woman in strength.

Silver Age Supergirl was stronger than Wonder Woman just saying

Not strongest, but powerful, powerful = strong + skill + intellect, WW is warrior, shes not use raw power because shes not as strong as powergirl, and forget about SA era, because we live in new52!

For me, powergirl is the most strongest female on dcu (on raw power class) and then maxima and supergirl

That's only because a creative team completely depowered Wonder Woman by taking her powers all away. No female hero has been as severely crippled as WW.

I think she is. DC made her even more powerful as witnessed in The New 52. She even went to God mode, and I do know that she overpowered/outmatched Supergirl. If DC plans on making Supergirl or Powergirl more powerful in the future I still doubt that those two would (not saying can because they have chances tho) be stronger than WW, unless they want to change the trio replacing WW. Lol but that can't be, she's been a legend now.

No, Elaine Belloc is.

diana is stronger than supergirl and power,maxima may be stronger,that would make diana the second strongest.

There's more to strength than just brute force. as Wonder Woman once said, one thing stronger than super strength is the power of the brain. I wish they'd bring her mental powers back.

@wonderwomanfan8: me too! At the very least her sisterhood with animals would be a nice addition. I feel like the New 52 version is far less empathetic (at least outside of Azzerello's storyline) than previous versions.

I do think they intent to continue to further develop her powers into this realm since we've seen her new ability to telepathically communicate with soldiers and perhaps the war scream has a mental connection as well. I'd love for them to explore her new gifts as a god.

Not really,Even wonder woman no depowered,in the silver age/pre-crisis, supergirl still much stronger than wonder woman,who push planets like child player as superman as did it

@linkjt said:

she can beat PG/SG because shes have more experience and skill, since SG/PG was not a warrior, so WW can beat her, but in class of brute force, for me PG is more stronger than WW since she is kryptonian.

I am pretty sure there are some that are stronger, but only slightly, and Diana's training in h2h usually means she beats those.

Still no.

@wondertot: PG wasn't able to break free from wonder woman's grab,so PG is not stronger.

Wasn't there a chart with both Marvel and Dc Superheroines chart. Diana was up there. 100 tons+ and Supergirls was 50+. However Diana is stronger without her bracelets

Post Crisis Diana was nowhere near the strongest. Every Kryptonian female was stronger than her just to name the most obvious. New 52 hasn't really been given definable feats without the bracelets, IIRC.

She was able to deal with Zora(righted?)

Diana has said Power Girl was stronger. Supergirl was not unable to break free. She wasn't even given an opportunity and hardly had developed a way to defend herself when it happened anyway. Not being as strong as does not mean you can't stun or knock out if you are still in the ballpark. I've read every Post Crisis Wonder Woman title. She is not as strong as any Kryptonian.

You mean except for the fact that WW said she was losing the fight with PG in a straight slug-fest? WW had to start using her superior fighting skill to beat PG and even then, she was unable to seriously hurt PG. Oh and then there is the fact that she has taken WW down in one shot before.

I say the same thing when I am winning a fight of strength. Wonder Woman did NOT say they were equals. She said that Power Girl is at LEAST as strong as her.

I don't think you know what grappling is. Not much strength at all is needed for that particular spinal lock. It is by design, to make an opponent's strength largely irrelevant. It's a submission move for a reason. Your opponent's strength becomes your own weapon in it. Forcing their arms down causes severe hyperflexion of the cervical vertebrae. You are out of your wheelhouse here.

I never said Wonder Woman didn't subdue Power Girl, Jesus Christ. Wonder Woman beat her with her superior skill though, that much was well established to anyone that actually READ the issue. If Wonder Woman was stronger, she could have just punched Power Girl out. She couldn't. Not a single hit that Wonder Woman connected with caused any kind of lasting damage. Why else do you think Wonder Woman went for submission? Wonder Woman is highly competitive. If she thought she could win playing by someone else's rules, she would.

A feat isn't PIS because you don't like it. There has never been anything to suggest that Wonder Woman is stronger than a Kryptonian. So yeah, getting one-shot is absolutely possible. Daxamites are not generally regarded as stronger than Kryptonians but Wonder Woman lost against one of them as well. The Daxamite let her win and Diana was exhausted afterwards anyway. Fan wanking Wonder Woman against the guy who is the undisputed master of Post Crisis Wonder Woman on this site is pretty darn silly.

A Kryptonian being stronger than Wonder Woman does not make Wonder Woman weak. Wonder Woman can take a hit, sure. But there are lots of characters and even people in real life that can take hits from others far stronger than they are. How many times has Batman had his face smashed by the likes of Bane and Deathstroke? He is nowhere near their strength but he can still take a hit from them and keep fighting.

Also, way to lose an argument like a baby.

Yeah, like a baby.

Wonder Woman can be one-shot by a Kryptonian, deal with it with at least a little grace. That doesn't make her weak at all nor does it mean she will always get one-shot. She is still strong enough to help move the Earth. Ms. Marvel cannot. You could at least try to dry your eyes before posting.

Supergirl and Power Girl don't need to be as strong as Superman to still be stronger than Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman is not as strong as Superman either.

You clearly do need to dry your eyes, since you were throwing a fit over the realization that Wonder Woman is not the strongest female in DC.

How strong should she be to me she should be on par with Superman(without her bracelets) but has skills to make it up for raw power.

• Better feats, sure. But high end feats are not the norm and what does it matter if you get punched out every time you fight someone with less feats?
• One cannot dispute that Batman has significantly more high end showings than Deathstroke does but it doesn't matter. Deathstroke simply is stronger every time they fight.
• If you already knew that Wonder Woman isn't the strongest, why are you having such a hard time accepting it in this thread?