Is Changing Wonder Woman and the History of the Amazons A Good Idea?

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When the decision to relaunch the entire DC Comics universe came about, the question of whether to make integral changes to characters, character identities and concepts obviously came up. If this wasn't obvious before, it is certainly obvious now considering some of the massive changes made to characters and their histories, particularly recently.

The latest issue of WONDER WOMAN #7 is certainly evidence of that, and it's also something that took readers by surprise. When Comic Vine received the preview for the seventh issue of WONDER WOMAN just two short weeks ago we were certainly excited, but there was no way of our knowing what huge revelations would take place in the latter portion of the issue. If you read the book you already know what I am talking about, and if you haven't then be aware that there will be some spoilers below.

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Whoever was responsible for the massive changes made to Wonder Woman and the Amazons seen in WONDER WOMAN #7 is beside the point. The real question is, were these changes a good idea? Were the things that happened in this issue positive or negative, overall? Before I divulge my personal perspective on the recent changes made to the heritage of one of the most iconic characters in comics, let's discuss what is actually different about Wonder Woman and the Amazons now, compared to the way they were before.

Prior to the "new 52" the Amazons were seen as a group of women who never interacted with men. The Amazons were comprised as the souls of women throughout the ages who had been persecuted and killed, "dying before their time" who were given a chance to live a life based on "love and the teaching of the Gods" rather than "power and conquest." This origin can be seen in Wonder Woman #72, by Bill Loebs, Lee Moder and Ande Parks.

The story tells of the origin of the Amazons, their ideologies, as well as of Hippolyta's struggles against Heracles and the outside threats the Amazons faced. That origin, however, is vastly different from the one that was recently published in WONDER WOMAN #7. While the former paints the Amazons as a group of abandoned, disrespected women who are given a second chance at life to live out a happy, full and loving existence; their most recent incarnation brands them as a race of women who are warriors and have done what they must to ensure that their race would survive and persevere. The key word that defines these Amazons is "warrior."

In issue #7 we see the Amazons as a race of warrior women who "thrice a century" leave their island, seduce men, eliminate those men and then return to their island where nine months later they celebrate the births of the baby girls and abandon the boys, giving them up to Hephaestus in exchange for weapons. Now, I've obviously simplified things a lot, so I recommend you read the issue in order to get the full scope of the inherent changes made to these characters and to the identity of the Amazons. What is obvious, however, is that these Amazons are vastly different than the Amazons of yesteryear.

While very different, both of these stories have one thing in common: they both empower the Amazons. In Loebs telling of the Amazon's history we have a group of women who band together, support one another and live in peace and love after suffering years of abuse and persecution. In the most recent telling of the Amazon's history we see Amazons who have never feared persecution and have empowered themselves and their island of women by staying strong and embracing their warrior spirit. Both reflect this idea that women can be strong (and as strong) as men can be, even if the latter (and most recent version) does paint them to be a race of women who fail to regard the lives of men. Essentially, lacking compassion.

Loebs' Amazon's are emotionally empowered but they still live in isolation, away from men. Is this out of fear? Is it because they are afraid that their livelihood would be threatened? Meanwhile, Azzarello's version of the Amazons paint this portrait of a tribe of women who choose to live isolated from men but do not fear the penetration of men into their society, and fully prepare themselves to ward them off. While one version aims to protect the women from harm by shielding themselves from the eyes of the world, the other protects women by being prepared for any threat that comes their way.

So is this change a good thing for the Amazons?

When it comes to comics, you have to expect change. And that change (although it might make you uneasy) may not necessarily be a bad thing. Reading the latest issue of WONDER WOMAN I found myself at the edge of my seat and completely in disbelief, not knowing what to feel. As a Wonder Woman fan familiar with her character history, I have always appreciated that she was surrounded by compassionate, loving women who were once persecuted and given a second chance. It's a beautiful character history. Yet, reading this new interpretation of the Amazons and their race I found myself completely enthralled in this new history. These women paved their own way and were not always kind to the world; but when was the world ever kind? Additionally, this new interpretation of the Amazons is also very consistent with the mythology of the Amazons.

In some versions of the myth, no men were permitted to have sexual encounters or reside in Amazon country; but once a year, in order to prevent their race from dying out, they visited the Gargareans, a neighbouring tribe. The male children who were the result of these visits were either killed, sent back to their fathers or exposed in the wilderness to fend for themselves; the females were kept and brought up by their mothers, and trained in agricultural pursuits, hunting, and the art of war. Source

Considering most Greek city-states were patriarchal societies (in Athens women were not even permitted to sit in on Assemblies and vote), the fact that the myth surrounding the Amazons painted them as self-sufficient with a warrior mentality is very interesting. Additionally, this new history adds something new to Wonder Woman. She has brothers. This change in her identity as an Amazon will allow Azzarello to explore her as both a warrior and as a compassionate woman. It will also give her compassion a purpose, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Did you read the issue? What did you think of the story? Do you think that making huge changes to characters is a positive or a negative?

#1 Posted by pspin (892 posts) - - Show Bio

While this is interesting, I am not reading the series, I like how it is much closer to the original myth of the Amazons. It also makes a lot more sense with Wonder Woman being a great warrior who comes from a tradition of great warriors instead of intellectuals.

This is just like the Supernatural episode from a month (or so) ago

#2 Posted by Inverno (13315 posts) - - Show Bio

I am sorry but that is a really dumb question with a very clear answer:

No, it is not a good idea. Why are they Amazons in the first place?

#3 Edited by AlKusanagi (620 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, at least we have an explanation for the Wonder Woman in All Star Batman now...

#4 Posted by Skaddix (3119 posts) - - Show Bio

No its horrible change. It be like making Kryptonians a genocidal race or Batman's Parents Hardened Crime Lords.

#5 Posted by sociald1077 (34 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to say that I loved this issue. Though I have one issue with this issue, it paints Diana as very naive, to the point of ignorance. I mean the daughter of the queen not knowing the ways of her society?

That one issue aside, I think this has been a really strong run on WW and I can't wait to see what is in store next.

#6 Posted by garrison12795 (33 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm really liking this series. Azzarello is actually making me anxious for more Wonder Woman issues.

#7 Posted by Tbird13 (18 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow so for every Amazonian there's some dude they killed? That's certainly dark, to say the least.

But definitely interesting.

#8 Posted by RazzaTazz (9680 posts) - - Show Bio
@Babs: I think in my opinion (and as someone that has read every single monthly issue every published with her name on it) that this is an excellent development for the character.  In the past I have had a few issues with a lot of the portrayal of the Amazons.  In a sense the Amazons for much of Diana's golden and silver age history played the role of the Batman related puns in the 1960s television show.  If Diana ever needed something then she would just go to Paradise Island where one of the scientists was coincidentally working on that particular thing.  With Perez the Amazons were updated somewhat, less of passive altruists and more as real people, but there was still a bit of a disconnect, from being a warrior race that promoted peace.  Of course, there were divisions within the society over this role, but essentially the Amazons still remained quite mythical as opposed to real, and having this as a part of Wonder Woman also made her somewhat more artificial.  I think this new development really answers is sort of like finding out peeling back the layers of the Amazons and finding real (and ruthless) people underneath.  It would be kind of as if you just found out that your grandfather - who you love and who treats you as a favoured grandchild - served time in prison for murder or some such things.  There are skeletons in the closet of every family, and while these are some pretty big skeletons, I still think it adds a depth to the character and her family that has never been seen before.  
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#9 Edited by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

This is nuts, sounds horrible, they are everything but comprehensive

#10 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio
These women paved their own way and were not always kind to the world; but when was the world ever kind?
Both reflect this idea that women can be strong (and as strong) as men can be, even if the latter (and most recent version) does paint them to be a race of women who fail to regard the lives of men. Essentially, lacking compassion.

You do realise you are talking about rapists, cold blooded murderers and slavers?

"Lacking compassion"? They are psychopaths. If they were men, we would not even be talking about it.

Considering most Greek city-states were patriarchal societies (in Athens women were not even permitted to sit in on Assemblies and vote), the fact that the myth surrounding the Amazons painted them as self-sufficient with a warrior mentality is very interesting.

No, they were always the villains. They were not seen as brave women "doing what had to be done". The Amazons were seen as monsters, crazy degenerate women. That is why the hero of the stories end up by having to kill them. They were on the side of Troy during the Trojan War and one of Hercules' labours (and pretty much all the others were other monsters to slay).

That is why it makes absolutely no sense that these mythological Amazons who raise the compassionate Wonder-Woman

This change in her identity as an Amazon will allow Azzarello to explore her as both a warrior and as a compassionate woman. It will also give her compassion a purpose, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Purpose, yes. However, her compassion makes absolutely no sense, as explained in this great CBR review:

For starters, this plot development simply doesn't make much sense. If this is a part of The Amazon culture, then why wouldn't Diana know about it? How can Diana be who we know her to be -- good and proud, strong and brave, honest and true, full of compassion and power -- and come from and/or agree with the supposed ways of Azzarello's Amazons? If The Amazons do not believe their actions to be shameful (and they do not seem to) then why hide them from Diana or anyone else? If Diana did not know, as Azzarello's story seems to imply, then we must assume Diana to be a naïve fool at best and galactically stupid at worst. If Diana is a naïve fool unaware she was raised by killers, rapists, liars and abandoners, how can we believe that she would she grow into the honorable, heroic and compassionate person she is when these are the people who raised her? Lastly, perhaps Azzarello is suggesting Diana's origin for coming to man's world (to help them, to bring them compassion, etc.) is different than what we know it to be. However, since he has not said as much, we must assume her mission is the same. Why would a group of dishonorable liars, thieves, killers, etc., send the best of themselves to man's world with a mission of any sort other than utter destruction? In the end, it's a bold and risky idea that feels executed for shock value and doesn't stand up to examination.

#11 Posted by Comicbookgal (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat: In Perez's original series the Amazons where created by the Gods from the souls of women who died in pre history as faith in the Gods was waning so that they wouldn't die out. The were part of Greece for a while and had there own city but then Hercules along with his army raped them and sacked the city after Hippolyta beat him in a fight.(Aeres was the one who got Herc to fight in the 1st place by telling him that Hippolyta was spreading lies about him). So the goddesses saw how emotional scarred they were and gave them there own island as well as immortality. Diana was the soul of Hippolytas child from pre history who died in her womb when her husband killed her in a fit of rage. She was made of clay and given life by Artemis, Aphrodite, Hestia and Hermes (which explains her powers). In this new 52 version I have no idea why they are Amazons. The amazons were BOTH warriors and intellectuals in Perez's version, so why can't they be both in the new version? It would make them a multifaceted, like real cultures are. They enjoyed art, literature and music yet also studied military tatics and the arts of war.

I'm doing my thesis on mythology and the roles of women and the writer clearly picked the myths and legends that show the Amazons that their worse so that Diana could look more like a paragon of truth and goodness. Look at the Celts, they were incredible war like but also were know for there gold working skills, elected kings and had female judges and high bards, so if one were to focus solely on the warrior aspect of there culture you won't get the full picture. This is why I dislike this version of Wonder Woman

#12 Posted by RazzaTazz (9680 posts) - - Show Bio
@DarthShap: There are easy enough answers for each of your questions, but it is clear you don't like this development.  I on the other hand think it is pretty interesting.   
 
@Tbird13 said:

Wow so for every Amazonian there's some dude they killed? That's certainly dark, to say the least.

But definitely interesting.

This also opens the door for a new supervillain for Diana, one of these guys (or more than one) that got away
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#13 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

right now, no, im not a fan of the change...it makes them feel villain-y... all the man rape and murders and...neglecting of children...i could do without lol

#14 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

How can the Amazons be considered compassionate while at the same time be slave traders? Cause that's exactly what they are now

#15 Posted by noj (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally think this is a great change. It brings it much closer to their mythological origins, and in doing so makes the book that much more accessible, and interesting to a new audience. I for one NEVER thought I would be buying a Wonder Woman title monthly, and I certainly never thought I would be looking forward to it as much as I do now. Its one of my favorite series now, and I cant wait for the next one!

#16 Posted by HolySerpent (12658 posts) - - Show Bio

I might have to start reading this series. I'm loving the way there taking the amazons.

#17 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@RazzaTazz said:

@DarthShap: There are easy enough answers for each of your questions, but it is clear you don't like this development. I on the other hand think it is pretty interesting.

It is interesting as a story, sure.

But it makes no sense with Diana still being the same compassionate person and it destroys pretty much everything Pre-New 52.

Hippolyta was never treated this badly. Even Amazons Attacks seems in-character by comparison.

#18 Edited by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@AlKusanagi said:

Well, at least we have an explanation for the Wonder Woman in All Star Batman now...

That's the thing. Wonder Woman is still the same. She was raised by this army of psychopaths with no outside interference until Trevor's arrival and obviously she is still her same compassionate self.

Also, not the first time Azzarello seemingly follows the latter work of Frank Miller. His Luthor depicted the World's Finest very similarly to how Miller wrote it in...The Dark Knight Strikes Again... :(

#19 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

They are selling babies into slavery, there is no defense for that. The Amazons are doing something evil as a cultural norm

#20 Edited by LiamEssex (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Azzerello seems to get that myth is fluidic and transitional. Loads of different regions and cults in acient Greece had different origins and explanations of their heroes and God's, multiple perceptions on how these extra-ordinary entities came to be, like a hellenistic elseworlds. If you're gonna introduce Wonder Woman into that framework as a daughter of Zeus then expect a different rendering of her story and a different perception of her and her Amazon sisters right? Finest representation of WW yet, hope the creative team stick around and continue with the mythic bad-ass-ary she deserves after the mess of Odyssey. Always, always a 5 outta 5 book for me.

#21 Posted by RazzaTazz (9680 posts) - - Show Bio
@DarthShap: Diana has always been the liberal minded one compared to the remainder who have been conservative in approach to almost everything.  There are other instances of Amazons acting very militaristic, like trying to educate Lyta away from her mother's path, even to an extreme degree.  Anyway there is no indication that Hippolyta was involved with this as far as we know.  And she would have known as their leader, but then it raises interesting questions about what her role as leader is.  
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#22 Posted by zackattack529 (1404 posts) - - Show Bio

i think its pretty cool! its a much darker take on wonder woman. and i already expected some grueling changes, its Brian Azzarello after all, the same genius who did 100 bullets. so not much surprise..and Greek mythology wasn't very bright and sunny. it was very dark! and thats why this guy is prefect for writting this series. and its been awesome! wonder woman is one of my favorites of the new 52 and im a GUY! i didn't think id like a book with a chick at the forefront! haha

#23 Posted by hajime76 (27 posts) - - Show Bio

Excellent article Sara. As someone who never read Wonder Woman before, I came into this series because Azzarello and Chiang were the creative team assigned to the title. I don't know much about past DC history but I am enjoying the title so far. I must say that I was surprised by the developments in issue 7 but I want to say that all (or almost all) groups of cultures have or had some kind of dark past (i.e. discrimination, genocide, enslavement, religious persecution) that would be best forgotten. At first, this revelation in issue 7 disturbed me but I think this will give Diana the strength to be virtuous and set a good example for herself and the values that were instilled in her by her mother and fellow Amazons. I might not initially like this development but I like the character Wonder Woman and how she is portrayed in this series by Azzarello and Chiang so I will see how they utilize this.

#24 Posted by cracker_jack (220 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the changes.

#25 Posted by HolySerpent (12658 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazons are not villains or superheroes.

#26 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@RazzaTazz said:

@DarthShap: Diana has always been the liberal minded one compared to the remainder who have been conservative in approach to almost everything. There are other instances of Amazons acting very militaristic, like trying to educate Lyta away from her mother's path, even to an extreme degree. Anyway there is no indication that Hippolyta was involved with this as far as we know. And she would have known as their leader, but then it raises interesting questions about what her role as leader is.

What? Hippolyta is their queen! How does she think her people reproduce? Of course she knows. She probably organizes it.

And yes, she already was the most liberal minded but then, she came from a peaceful society way ahead of their time.

In the new version, they are all psychopaths, monsters invented 1000 BC to scare people, like the Nemean Lion and the Hydra. And we are supposed to believe that Wonder-Woman got 21th century values from these people? Nonsense!

#27 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

So she has brothers now...Let's see where this goes...

#28 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@HolySerpent said:

Amazons are not villains or superheroes.

That is not true.

In Ancient Greece, they were the villains facing the heroes (Achilles and Hercules).

Now, they are a team of people who rape, kill in cold blood and send their own children to a life of slavery in a superhero book.

You do the math.

#29 Posted by bladewolf (790 posts) - - Show Bio

This makes me reaaally want to read this series. Sounds like they've done some interesting stuff.

#30 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: If her brothers are "villains" It'll be hard not to root for them considering their mothers sold them into slavery when they were babies

#31 Posted by astrid12 (84 posts) - - Show Bio

I find this incredibly interesting and makes me like Wonder Woman now more than ever before it adds to the character depth and shades of grey that make any story interesting. I wasn't a big fan before because of that, all the happy people. Now it makes me think, are these girls good? Are the simply trying to protect themselves? I love it. I love all the sparks it's making!

#32 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

@astrid12: No they are slavers, that makes them bad people end of story

#33 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@Primmaster64: If her brothers are "villains" It'll be hard not to root for them considering their mothers sold them into slavery when they were babies

So they can be justified? I think this is pretty cool. Now there's a chance there will be more males in WW mythology. She barely has any....Or am I wrong?
#34 Posted by DirkPower (9 posts) - - Show Bio

I've got to say, I think its a wonderful refreshing take on Wonder Woman. I'll start by saying I've only been reading American comic books since September 2010, so I'm still a rookie.  I've tried a few times to like wonder woman, but it never appealed to me, and I guess the years of muddled back story didn't help much either. The reboot, not only put me on equal footing with other readers, it also modernized the character and gave her a great supporting cast. This whole story arc has been so enthralling, and Wonder Woman is prob one of my top 4 comics of the new 52 (The others being Batman, Animal Man, Swamp Thing).
Its a story for todays audiences, I feel. Also, the art is astonishing, to me. Cliff has done some fantastic work. I really feel wonderwomans strength and grace with every panel. The design work too, its all fantastic and strikes me as something that will last. 
FINALLY, I like that she can't seem to fly anymore, in fact I really like it. Flight (and invisible jets) was a tad too much power for me. 
 
How do other commenters feel about the lack of flight?

#35 Posted by noj (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: Look man you gotta stop looking at the Amazons and judging them so harshly. Sure from our point of view it looks terribly evil and wrong but this is from a 21st century POV. The Amazons are still practicing traditions that were not uncommon in their time period. Their isolation from the outside world basically ensured that they didn't move beyond these practices and develop with the rest of the civilized world.You cant really call it evil without basically calling all the people and cultures throughout history that led a similar life inherently evil as well. Its just their way of life. They are a society stuck in the past.

#36 Posted by Ganthetsward20 (687 posts) - - Show Bio

If it weren't for the some of these changes I would have never read this book. I wanted new ideas on old characters. I don't know if your going to like this but Wonder Woman sucked in all the books she stared in. I think that this is the best way to have her (as portrayed in her own book, the Justice League version of her is pretty bad). Amazons are fierce warriors and Diana is a Amazon. She is a princess too and she thinks like both. She now has two families and will protect those in need of protection. issues 1-6 (the ones I have read) have been easy to follow and I have really enjoyed them. Her book is one of my favorites because they actually changed almost everything about her in this DCNU. The same basic ideas are there and the same people are still surrounding her.

Its just a new perspective and I would have been happier to have seen it in more books. Most of theses I will read and I may like them but I see that some of them don't stand out as a' New 52' book. They could easily be swapped with the old continuity. Books like Suicide Squad, Catwoman and even Resurrection Man all had the chance to go somewhere new but they haven't done anything to really stick out from the old DCU. Books like Animal Man, Swamp Thing and Wonder Woman have.

#37 Posted by RockyRaccoon37 (27 posts) - - Show Bio

It's pretty great reading some of these negative responses-- all of which are justified and, I suppose expected (although that CBR review was a SHOCKER)-- but the criticisms are flawed from the get-go.

You cannot apply a standard Western moral judgement to the Gods of Greek myth. Everyone is terrible, selfish, greedy, jealous, violent and self-serving to a fault. I think what Azzarello has done with the series so far is exceptional in how well it embodies the elements of Greek myth.

That being said, the seemingly large plot hole about Wonder Woman not realizing what had been going on is strange. I feel like there's something in there that we're all missing, but maybe not. I'll have to look through those issues again.

In the end, you can't expect to read a story like this (or any story by Azzarello) and expect to find a simplistic character that you can always feel good about-- no one is perfect and no one can redeem themselves. But then, how can anyone even redeem themselves truly?

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER BROAD QUESTION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

#38 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: If her brothers became enemies of the Amazons the would be completely justified

#39 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: Makes me wonder what she will do now with her brothers? Will she free them or keep them there as slaves?
#40 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

@RockyRaccoon37: Slavers have always been considered bad people even to the people who bought slaves from them, sure it was hypocritical but still slavers have never been considered good people in any culture.

#41 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: If she's a true hero the answer to that question should be obvious

#42 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: Indeed. WW will now scream ''Brothers!''
#43 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@noj said:

@DarthShap: Look man you gotta stop looking at the Amazons and judging them so harshly. Sure from our point of view it looks terribly evil and wrong but this is from a 21st century POV. The Amazons are still practicing traditions that were not uncommon in their time period. Their isolation from the outside world basically ensured that they didn't move beyond these practices and develop with the rest of the civilized world.You cant really call it evil without basically calling all the people and cultures throughout history that led a similar life inherently evil as well. Its just their way of life. They are a society stuck in the past.

Except they were described as monsters even then. THEY WERE THE VILLAINS OF THEIR STORIES!

#44 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ganthetsward20 said:

Its just a new perspective and I would have been happier to have seen it in more books. Most of theses I will read and I may like them but I see that some of them don't stand out as a' New 52' book. They could easily be swapped with the old continuity. Books like Suicide Squad, Catwoman and even Resurrection Man all had the chance to go somewhere new but they haven't done anything to really stick out from the old DCU. Books like Animal Man, Swamp Thing and Wonder Woman have.

You are kidding, right? Swamp Thing and Animal Man were not rebooted and kept all of their previous continuity, including of course their Moore and Morrison runs

#45 Posted by RazzaTazz (9680 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
@joshmightbe: Makes me wonder what she will do now with her brothers? Will she free them or keep them there as slaves?
You could read the issue and find out ;)
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#46 Posted by Tunsieon (316 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't wait until the TPB comes out for this.

#47 Posted by joshmightbe (24967 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap said:

@noj said:

@DarthShap: Look man you gotta stop looking at the Amazons and judging them so harshly. Sure from our point of view it looks terribly evil and wrong but this is from a 21st century POV. The Amazons are still practicing traditions that were not uncommon in their time period. Their isolation from the outside world basically ensured that they didn't move beyond these practices and develop with the rest of the civilized world.You cant really call it evil without basically calling all the people and cultures throughout history that led a similar life inherently evil as well. Its just their way of life. They are a society stuck in the past.

Except they were described as monsters even then. THEY WERE THE VILLAINS OF THEIR STORIES!

this is true, the creator of Wonder Woman altered the mythology because he wanted to give positive role models to girls, sure the concept may not have been perfect but that was more a product of the time and the fact that he was a huge perv but he still had good intentions

#48 Posted by RazzaTazz (9680 posts) - - Show Bio
@LiamEssex said:

Azzerello seems to get that myth is fluidic and transitional. Loads of different regions and cults in acient Greece had different origins and explanations of their heroes and God's, multiple perceptions on how these extra-ordinary entities came to be, like a hellenistic elseworlds. If you're gonna introduce Wonder Woman into that framework as a daughter of Zeus then expect a different rendering of her story and a different perception of her and her Amazon sisters right? Finest representation of WW yet, hope the creative team stick around and continue with the mythic bad-ass-ary she deserves after the mess of Odyssey. Always, always a 5 outta 5 book for me.

I pretty much agree with this whole heartedly.  After all a peace loving group of warriors in ancient Greece would not have lasted long.  The fact the Diana is peace loving is one of the defining aspects of her character for me, the fact that the remainder of her family is less peaceful is also pretty defining.  
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#49 Posted by thveej (203 posts) - - Show Bio

As a new reader to Wonder Woman (never really picked it up before, and when I did never really liked it) I dig the changes in this new version. I can see how old school fans can be mad about the changes, but for me the series has been awesome.

I dunno, for me this new version fits better with the times. There is an element of reality in this version (beside the fact that Greek gods are involved ) that I dig. For an outsider who has no real affinity towards WW and her history, this new version seems to make more sense. I also think all these new changes fit very well with the direction of the story, all changes fit the story and make it much more intriguing. Also it opens up WW to new possibilities, plus I'm a sucker for mythology and this new version seems to be going down that road much more.

None of the new changes seem to be in bad taste, but I'm not in a position to compare it to the old version.

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