How would Diana be like without powers.

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#1 Posted by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

How do you think Wonder Woman would be if she never had powers to begin with. Would if she just had enhanced abilities just like Deathstroke. How would her relationships with Batman, Superman, Steve Trevor, and The Justice League change? How do you think her fights with Deathstroke and her villains would change? I know this was done in the comics before but I don't think it was to this degree.

#2 Posted by jphulk26 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42 said:

How do you think Wonder Woman would be if she never had powers to begin with. Would if she just had enhanced abilities just like Deathstroke. How would her relationships with Batman, Superman, Steve Trevor, and The Justice League change? How do you think her fights with Deathstroke and her villains would change? I know this was done in the comics before but I don't think it was to this degree.

i don´t know and I don´t want to know. By the way if you´re interested Danny O´Neil did something like that. Its not very good.

#3 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Can easily do wonder woman with no powers like Batman or with a little bit of powers like Captain America, Deathstroke, Bourne Legacy, etc. If Wonder Woman has no powers like Batman, she would have a hard time beating an enhanced person like Deathstroke and Deathstroke also has healing powers like Wolverine so I don't think a non powered Wonder Woman can beat Wolverine. For movie fighting females, most of them do have enhanced powers like Matrix, Resident Evil, Underworld, etc. In the golden age, the powers of Wonder Woman and Superman were not too impressive and you can even hurt Superman with a tank, and both Superman and Wonder Woman could not fly in the beginning. The power levels of Superman went to solar system levels in the silver age and Wonder Woman's power levels lagged a little bit behind Superman but they did fight each other like in the bronze age JLA 143 when Wonder Woman was possessed by the Construct.

#4 Posted by mpierce2690 (316 posts) - - Show Bio

She had no powers during the 60's, and it was awful.

#5 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Since Batman is selling well, it is also possible to make Wonder Woman like Batman and make tons of money like Batman. You can easily turn Wonder Woman and the amazons into a female ninja group like the League of Shadows. Ninjas tend to make tons of money.

#6 Posted by Urban_Ronin (9935 posts) - - Show Bio

#7 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

I also have fond memories of the brief time when Wonder Woman became the UK Avengers Diana Rigg. The Uk Avengers Diana Rigg was also an interesting character and the UK Avengers was a popular tv show.

#8 Posted by Wboy (442 posts) - - Show Bio

She'd rely heavily on her martial combat, and considering hers is based off Amazonian training I guess she'd be like the best of the best street leveler.

#9 Posted by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: Not really I just saw there was no threads lately and tried to do something.

#10 Edited by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wboy: Thats what I was thinking. Her and Batman are very close like Catwoman and Batman. Probably would best Batman sometimes.

#11 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

If Wonder Woman and amazons become like ninjas, they should be able to beat Batman, Catwoman, Green Arrow, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger, Richard Dragon and Karate Kid.

#12 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: wonder woman with all her powers can also sell a lot if is done right,good story,good marketing that's all you need.

#13 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: without powers she would be the ultimate xena warrior princess and with more powerful weapons.

but her villans should be depowered too,cheetah would be a meta-human,circe would be replaced by a normal sorceress,and ares would be replaced by an enchanted warrior from mythology,maybe achilles.

#14 Posted by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Interesting. I don't think I would buy it though. I think she would be major weapons specialist.

#15 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: you can bet you'd buy it if i was the writer,just kidding,but my vision would be:circe puts a curse on wonder woman with the help of zeus and other gods that don't like her,taking away her powers and she has to find a way to recover them,it would be the best way to show the full level of her fighting skills and intelligence having her depowered for some time,and when she finally gets her powers back,bang!,she is more powerful than before,that should be arazzello second arc,why is her punshing me with his run?,he better start to do something better with her character.

#16 Posted by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Yeah there really havn't been any significant fights. Hopefully he does something with the New Gods and her.

#17 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

She would be awesome!She might even be AWESOME WOMAN!

#18 Posted by darkman61288 (728 posts) - - Show Bio

It make a great idea for an event. A World Wide decimation of super powers like act of god but better. The impact on characters would be great. Superman would actually enjoy it at the beginning. He would be done with heroics and try to live a normal life.Wonder Woman would hate it still wants to fight crime so her starts working with Batman. She trains with him and he starts outfiting her with gadgets. The two of them get close.

#19 Posted by marvel123 (377 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah she'd be like xena......but i like that she has super strength tho (like a warrior she hulk).....flight, not so much....but it is what it is

#20 Posted by jointron33 (1902 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkman61288: I'd prefer all jacking off to batman to instead burn in hell

#21 Posted by TheHulk (799 posts) - - Show Bio

She'd be ordinary woman.

#22 Posted by darkman61288 (728 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33: seriously what hell is your problem?

#23 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheHulk: she'd still have amazing fighting skillls,she'd be a better version of xena.

#24 Edited by GWHH (568 posts) - - Show Bio

always though they made her too strong. She should be strong but NOT superman strong.

Acutally, she DOES loose all her power(sort of). In Who Is WonderWoman series:

#25 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman without powers would maybe be like Xena with giant boobs.

#26 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@GWHH: they didn't make her too strong,she was always supposed to be powerful enough to compete with superman,and it should stay that way.

#27 Posted by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Agreed.

@GWHH: Great scans.

#28 Posted by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

Well..... what you do on your down time is your buisness.@jointron33:

#29 Posted by kapitein_zeppos (341 posts) - - Show Bio

Even without powers, she'd probably be a top tier human specimen. Smart, good looking, athletic, handy with a sword ...

#30 Posted by GWHH (568 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

And what you evidence to for this theory?

@GWHH: they didn't make her too strong,she was always supposed to be powerful enough to compete with superman,and it should stay that way.

#31 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@GWHH: marston(wonder woman creator)said it himself,my intention was to create a female as strong as superman,with all the compassion of a tender and peace loving woman,that's what marston said,you can search for it.

#32 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: The power levels of Superman went to solar system levels in the silver age and Wonder Woman's power levels lagged a little bit behind Superman

really?are you has scan can prove it?because even in the Silve age ,wonder woman never have a feats can make she put on sA superman strength level,in the silver age,entire DCU woman (super strength)only Supergirl have feats to prove she was close to SA superman strength

#33 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio
Even more powerful than superman(PIS power.)
SA supergirl also have PIS power......like.............she make superman like nothing
Powerful superman,eh?

tell me wonder woman (silver age)have this scan....

#34 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: maybe in golden age,in golden age wonder woman moved the sun with ease,but i don't remember her doing something like that in the silver age.

#35 Edited by SNascimento (441 posts) - - Show Bio

Wrong topic!

#36 Posted by RazzaTazz (9576 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked the mod girl years

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#37 Posted by JonSmith (3995 posts) - - Show Bio

She'd be this.

#38 Posted by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: haha The whole spartan army went against Diana. One left.

#39 Edited by GWHH (568 posts) - - Show Bio

In JLA act of god mini-series. She looses her powers. Becomes a stock brokers, becoming a Catholic and than marries a unpowered superman and than has a kid with him.

#40 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

she'd be like xena,amazing fighting skills and powerful weapons.

#41 Posted by PowerWoman (3344 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh,I'm read this thread,wow,i'm understand why a lot of people hate high level feats,because they are want to wonder woman without power!

Nice!if wonder woman without power,she's skills would be very Important,but she cant toe with toe fight to superman,no way,she just another canary

#42 Edited by lilben42 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: Oh no I would not want her without powers. At least not for a long time. She would be kind of boring without them to be honest. I could see Diana using kryptonite if she had to fight Superman without powers.

#43 Edited by PowerWoman (3344 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: Yeah,you like wonder woman strength and speed?i'm like too,so,i want to see wonder woman has high level of strength and speed feats,not just skills

for now,superman is too much stronger and too much faster than her,i dont like it

#44 Posted by Hazlenaut (1960 posts) - - Show Bio

Without Wonder Woman powers currently Diana is a demigod so she still has that going for her. Before the reboot she is still golem bless with by the gods she has to have something going for with deep inside.

She has enchanted weapons and amazonian training. You just said her without powers. You did not say anything about gear. She may be more brutal.

#45 Edited by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

These are some examples of Wonder Woman with NO powers. Obviously she normally has her powers and I very much prefer that.

She is in the same strength category as the strongest hero’s in the DC universe BUT… I also want people to understand that she is also the ONLY highly skilled highly trained Powerhouse superhero in the DC universe.

There are no other hero’s at her strength level who have fighting skill even close to Wonder Woman. It’s the combination of Strength Speed and Fighting Wisdom that makes Wonder Woman. They are all perfectly balanced.

Wonder Woman does Not have just RAW STRENGTH like some people think. Wonder Woman is not a Female Superman

Wonder Woman without Powers

AND NO MEMORY

Wonder Woman without Powers

Still Skilled enough to Block Bullets

This is my interpretation of Wonder Woman VS the DC universe. With All her Powers. Fighting Ability and Raw Strength.

#46 Edited by dshipp17 (972 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw said:

These are some examples of Wonder Woman with NO powers. Obviously she normally has her powers and I very much prefer that.

She is in the same strength category as the strongest hero’s in the DC universe BUT… I also want people to understand that she is also the ONLY highly skilled highly trained Powerhouse superhero in the DC universe.

There are no other hero’s at her strength level who have fighting skill even close to Wonder Woman. It’s the combination of Strength Speed and Fighting Wisdom that makes Wonder Woman. They are all perfectly balanced.

Wonder Woman does Not have just RAW STRENGTH like some people think. Wonder Woman is not a Female Superman

Wonder Woman without Powers

AND NO MEMORY

Wonder Woman without Powers

Still Skilled enough to Block Bullets

This is my interpretation of Wonder Woman VS the DC universe. With All her Powers. Fighting Ability and Raw Strength.

That issue with Diana without powers doesn't appear to be from the Silver Age, so where did you get those panels? But this kind of makes sense because she was fighting out of instinct and reflexes, but, again, I hate when they go that far and pull that Mary Sue crap on us. With all those opportunities, one or more should have finally knocked her back down. They somehow got her in the coffin when she was fully cognizant so why wouldn't they get her while she's disoriented and becoming aware of herself? This is where I loved Messener-Loebs' run; he did similar things to this, but finally minus the Mary Sue crap; it was really a breakthrough in ideas.

#47 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@dshipp17: She has lost her powers a few times in Wonder Woman volume 2

They did not get her into the coffin she was transported there with no memory and these things attacked her

#48 Edited by dshipp17 (972 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw said:

@dshipp17: She has lost her powers a few times in Wonder Woman volume 2

They did not get her into the coffin she was transported there with no memory and these things attacked her

Fair enough, but please cite the DC comic books and issues where you got those scans and those few times in Wonder Woman volume 2 where she was powerless. I believed those scans came from elsewhere, because I'm almost near certain that Wonder Woman has never lost her powers in her own book, post crisis, not even that bit with JMS' run; maybe she was weakened but not powerless.

#49 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@dshipp17:

She has lost her powers twice in volume 2 Wonder Woman #189 #148

#50 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

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