You can if you want. Normal people wont though. Until she fails to lift something pre 52 wonder woman lifted, THEN and only then would she be weaker. Till then its unknown...Obviously.

@comicuser: That's not how it works on comic vine. You have to prove you can lift something, we don't assume it. You saying she is just as strong is false because you have no feats to back it up. You can't give me one feat to prove she's as strong. For example, I've never tried to lift 1000 pounds before. By your logic, we can assume that I actually can lift that much, until I try and fail to do so. Ask anyone else on here who's been here for a while. She has to actually have feats on her level to be considered as strong, and she clearly isn't seeing as how she was easily beaten by Darkseid and first born

haha, dont be silly. You say that you dont assume she can lift something but then you turn right around and do the hypocritical thing by assuming she cant. LMAO my head literally (figuratively...obviously) explodes sometimes when i read nonsense like this on this site. LMAO

I didnt say shes just as strong. Read better.

I said its unknown. YOU said she was weaker, and you cant prove it. Its impossible. Cause we dont know cause she hasnt attempted to lift or pull a planet like pre 52 diana. YOU are doing the silly/ridiculous thing by assuming.

pre 52 diana would have lost against darkseid too. what are you even talking about? do you even read comics bro?

@comicuser: I can prove she's weaker because she hasn't done anything on her level. Until she does, she is weaker. That's how it works on comic vine. As of right now, her strength level is based on the biggest thing she lifted, which is nowhere near as close as what the old Diana did.

Pre new 52 Diana would have done better against Darkseid.

Well, I declare that it is no longer "how it works on comic vine" ... what does that even mean? All you are saying is your opinion is now somehow a "rule" for the entire website ... you are trying to prove a case with a LACK of evidence ... that's like trying to prove murder without a body.

hhahhahhahhaha WTF???? "I can prove shes weaker because she hasnt tried anything on her level" LMAO. Where are you from??? Where they do that at?

We dont know the extent of her strength. Thats the fact. Nothing else you say matters. and this will be the last time i address that ridiculousness.

lol thats the craziest thing ive read today. lol cmon jayc1324 youre better than that

@comicuser: @csg_cl: go on the battle forums and try to prove she's just as strong. People will argue against you because its not just my rule, that's actually how it works on the battle forums. Unless you prove you're as strong as someone, you're assumed to be weaker. Ask any good debator. Her strength level is not unknown. Her strength level is equal to the heaviest thing she has lifted up to this point. And as of now, that is lower than pre new 52 Diana. New 52 Diana also has worse durability and speed feats.

WHY TF WOULD I TRY TO PROVE SHES STRONGER? HAVE YOU NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION?? WE DONT KNOW THE EXTENT OF HER POWERS! JESUS CHRIST!

@comicuser: we do know the extent of her powers. They go as far as we have seen them go so far. Which is lower than her previous version.

@jayc1324: I refuse to engage on the battle forums ... Bunch of feat monkeys who can't see anything in a comic beyond an action sequence. Fanboyism doesn't even describe

@csg_cl: I understand that. Its all about feats in those forums.

@jayc1324: which is an overly simple way of judging any characters abilities. Not to mention logically flawed because the same individuals who claim feats define limits also disregard every feat that doesn't fit into their already chosen world view by claiming PIS anytime something happens that would alter their opinion.

Actually, she is very powerful considering that she's a god.

She beat Mongul, she is definitely powerful.

100% right

People think Spider man not as strong as superman or hulk,why?

Even sometime spider man beat thor or hulk?

Because no feat

lol some people....

Lol

Because ww no feats,so we must belive she can sneeze destroy multiverse

right?

WW fans logic

When people want to know how powerful is your charater

feats is only way to prove that

Not only battle thread,everywhere,even your children ask :How strong is superman?

Most people would be say:he was most powerful being on the earth,he can FTL,he can push planets,etc

@powerwoman: How come you never brought up the fact that Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman was able to toss a planet using her lasso?

I think the issue is more that there are character like Superman and The Flash where they really didn't hesitate at all to give ridiculous feat to right off the bat in the reboot.

Not planet,It was a bomb,though panel said"bomb planet",but not as big as earth

Pre-crisis wonder woman only move moon

@powerwoman: How was it a bomb? It was clearly a planet in outerspace.

Did you read that comic?

It's even not bigger than a city....

Gallery

Not planet,but planetoid

Though Pre-crisis wonder woman move moon that better than golden age superman

But nothing to do with silver age superman or Pre-52 wonder woman(push 1/3 of the earth is wonder woman most Impressive feats,but wonder woman never push planets by herself)

Even without gym-feats of lifting heavy objects (which proves nothing really) Diana has been depicted as taking on a slew of people as powerful if not more so than Superman on an equal footing to him, people like:

• Mongul (a fight apparently so boring it wasn't worth depicting outside of the result)
• Zod and Faora (at the same time)
• Superdoom
• Doomsday
• Supergirl
• Darkseid
• Along with a bunch of gods from her own book.

Unnecessarily so.

@agent41: I think the bigger issue is the fact that the New 52 been out since 2011 and it is almost 2015 yet the progress is as slow as a turtle. Superman is only a few steps away from being on par with his Pre-Crisis incarnation. Wonder Woman keep getting upgrade after upgrade but writers still refuse to utilize her the right way. People already trying to put Aquaman above her which is beyond me. She have had great fights so far but that won't change the lowballing she recieve on here.

Yeah,face the facts,good

Ok no, Wonder Woman is NOT equal to the likes of Doomsday, Superdoom and Darkseid.

@mpfly88: Read the last part of the opening paragraph again; "on an equal footing to him", 'him' referring to Superman, not Doomsday.

How powerful is wonder woman?

Based on the fans opinion,she as same as superman level

But based on the feats?No comparative at all

She would be lose to hulk,thor,superman,herc,Any male heavyweight

Thor would easily mudhole stomp her at fullpower, same with Superman at full strength and no mental blocks. SHe may have formidable skills, but she won't last a second with more endurance based monsters like the former. It's argueable that Hulk especially Worldbreaker could beat her.

Unless Thor decides to godblast her and destroy everything around them, he's not beating Wonder Woman.

As for the Hulk, the only surefire way she's gonna beat him is if she gets his lasso around him, and makes the Hulk realize the cause for all his anger and rage was his abusive father and that getting angry about it won't change his abused past, which would likely revert him back to Bruce. But in a straight up melee battle, Hulk would eventually overwhelm her.

That's not true, he can tag her, she's not immune to being tagged by slower opponents. It has happened before on many many many occasions throughout the past 60+ years. She's not a perfect fighter.

ugh...feat-nerds

She gets tagged pretty often. She has to, or people would stop reading her comics cause she'd be a boring character. She's not a perfect fighter. Not to mention Hulk is faster than people give credit for. She'd give Hulk a good fight at first, but Hulk constantly missing all his swings at her would get him more and more pissed off, and his durability is insane so he could tank her punches long enough as his strength continues to grow. The longer the fight goes, the harder it becomes to put down The Hulk. It could potentially take just one hit from the Hulk to throw Wonder Woman off her game, even by a little bit. If he absolutely cannot hit her, he has other methods to knock her off her balance. If we're talking about a Bloodlusted Wonder Woman who goes in for the kill the second the fight starts, then yeah she's got a good chance here, but in any normal scenario where the fight hand to hand, Hulk would eventually overwhelm her I'm sorry.

But in most situations she would probably try to use her lasso on him, so it's all good.

@powerwoman: Wonder Woman beat Mongul, someone who is in Supermans strength class.

@mpfly88: The reason characters like Wonder Woman and Superman get tagged is because of the plot, and they dont use their speed. However according to comic vine rules, when two characters are fighting each other, they are doing so to the best of their ability. therefore on comic vine, WW is using her speed always.

Wrong.....New 52 mongul NOT even close to superman in strength...

Only mr masjest was close to superman level

Not according to Clark ... he seems to think Mongul is too much for any of them to face alone ... and that Mongul is as strong as Darkseid