For Battle Threads,Powergirl/Wonder Woman

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#1 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

The writer was Gail Simone. Nuff said.

Why is WW #41 the only thing people ever bring up? Kara was possessed by Dr. Alchemy in The Brave and the Bold #7, and there she one-shotted Wonder Woman. No one ever talks about that. Let's just talk about Power Girl losing to Wonder Woman in a fight written by Gail "Huntress can make Shiva sweat" Simone.

Additionally, this is on the wrong forum, adding "For Battle Threads" there in the title does not make it the right forum. This should be on either the PG or WW thread.

Also, the link doesn't work. Also, I hear KMC is nice these days. Hint, hint.

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#3 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously Gail Simone is gonna side with WW and not with PG. That's like blatantly obvious

#4 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jorgevy said:

Obviously Gail Simone is gonna side with WW and not with PG. That's like blatantly obvious

Truth. It's like asking Greg Pak for his opinion on who'd win between Hulk and Thor.

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#5 Posted by Billy Batson (58030 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Also, the link doesn't work. Also, I hear KMC is nice these days. Hint, hint.

Works fine for me?
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#6 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@CitizenBane said:

Also, the link doesn't work. Also, I hear KMC is nice these days. Hint, hint.

Works fine for me?
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Not for me for some reason.

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#7 Posted by Billy Batson (58030 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Billy Batson said:

@CitizenBane said:

Also, the link doesn't work. Also, I hear KMC is nice these days. Hint, hint.

Works fine for me?
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Not for me for some reason.

Update your browser? :p
Here's what she said:

I don't think Power Girl is stronger or faster than Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman was likely erring on the side of caution.

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#8 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: Get mad honey all you want. Oh and PG never one shot WW. I have that story. Besides, since when does one shotting someone make you stronger? Oh right, it doesn't. 
#9 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101: Get mad all you want, honey.

And keep in mind that this is the same Simone who wrote Wonder Woman getting one-shotted and reduced to a drooling mess by a banshee in Secret Six before upholding her view as inviolable gospel.

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#10 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: Honey, PG has the stone in her hand. No one counts that. We all know the stone's power. LOL. WW wasn't even one shot. She gets right up. LOLOLOLOL. 
#11 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101 said:

@CitizenBane: Honey, PG has the stone in her hand. No one counts that. We all know the stone's power. LOL. WW wasn't even one shot. She gets right up. LOLOLOLOL.

Honey, that stone does not add any kind of strength to the user. At all. It never has, in any of Dr. Alchemy's appearances. LOL. Wonder Woman sure didn't make another appearance until PG was all the way in Antarctica. LOLOLOLOL.

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#12 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: PG does fly rather fast. And The stone adds all kinds of powers. Why else would PG hit her with it? You might have had a case if She'd have used her other hand. But you don't. 
#13 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101 said:

@CitizenBane: PG does fly rather fast. And The stone adds all kinds of powers. Why else would PG hit her with it? You might have had a case if She'd have used her other hand. But you don't.

PG hit Diana with the stone because Dr. Alchemy always holds the stone in his hand, and since he was in Kara's body at the time..........well, do the math, it's simple enough. It has never, ever added strength to the user. Like, ever. You might have had a case if you knew the slightest damn thing about the stone. But you don't.

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#14 Edited by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: You might have a case if she didn't hit WW with the stone. An artifact of immense power, that allows the user to do nearly anything. including change their structure and even the structure of others. The stone is glowing and it hits Diana. Period. If I hit you with my bare fist, it's not going to have the same effect as if I hit you with a brick in my hand. Game over. Please make special note of all the red energy flying around as PG hits WW. That's from the stone honey.
#15 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101 said:

@CitizenBane: You might have a case if she didn't hit WW with the stone. An artifact of immense power, that allows the user to do nearly anything. including change their structure and even the structure of others. The stone is glowing and it hits Diana. Period. If I hit you with my bare fist, it's not going to have the same effect as if I hit you with a brick in my hand. Game over. Please make special note of all the red energy flying around as PG hits WW. That's from the stone honey.

The stone is always glowing, sweetheart. And it still does not add ANY strength to the user. You think otherwise? Prove it. With examples from the Flash comics that Alchemy regularly appears in. Good luck with that.

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#16 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is the stone glowing? (gonna move this to the WW thread as well) usually thats a visual indication of some sort of power resonating from the object is it not?

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#17 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler said:

Why is the stone glowing? (gonna move this to the WW thread as well) usually thats a visual indication of some sort of power resonating from the object is it not?

It's always glowing. But it has never added strength to the user so it wouldn't have helped Power Girl.

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#18 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyway, I'm quitting this thread. I'm already well acquainted with fangirl101's delusional, rabid fanboyism. beatboks put up with her nonsense for an admirable amount of time, but I do not have his patience. I can only take so much of the ramblings of children. Have fun. The last word is all yours, since I know it's going to be worthless anyway.

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#19 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Does it hold an enhanced properties or is it described anywhere? I believe you, not saying I dont. I just think its odd that it glows just to glow.

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#20 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler said:

@CitizenBane: Does it hold an enhanced properties or is it described anywhere? I believe you, not saying I dont. I just think its odd that it glows just to glow.

It lets the user transmute stuff (hence the alchemy part of Dr. Alchemy). That's about it. It's never added strength.

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#21 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Gambler said:

@CitizenBane: Does it hold an enhanced properties or is it described anywhere? I believe you, not saying I dont. I just think its odd that it glows just to glow.

It lets the user transmute stuff (hence the alchemy part of Dr. Alchemy). That's about it. It's never added strength.

lol yeah I thought about that after I examined the scan more carefully. Still though, I almost wanna assume at the very least its durability has to have been elevated cause I dont see how a simple rock doesnt just crumble instantly upon hitting WW's face. But I wont keep you in this thread any longer. Not a big deal to me either way, just curious.

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#22 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: The same way Thanos amps his strikes with glowing fist. The energy does add to the dmg. The stone was glowing, and lots of red energy pours out as PG hits WW. Nice try tho. 
#23 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: It has energy projection powers as well. hence why When PG hit WW, there was red energy all over the place. 
#24 Posted by wonderW (134 posts) - - Show Bio

DC comic powers level are all lame DC says Wonder Woman is only weaker then superman in strength but then they try to power her down all the time. Superman is said to be the strongest but captain marvel and wonder woman can match his strength, it all comes down to popularity, superman and any spin-off heroes should not be able to fight any magic based people like captain marvel or wonder woman.

#25 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: What is the glowing Red Energy released when it hits Diana? 
#26 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101: The tears of outraged WW fanboys.

Seriously, learn to read, kid.

Anyway, I'm quitting this thread. I'm already well acquainted with fangirl101's delusional, rabid fanboyism. beatboks put up with her nonsense for an admirable amount of time, but I do not have his patience. I can only take so much of the ramblings of children. Have fun. The last word is all yours, since I know it's going to be worthless anyway.

I'm not beatboks. I cannot put up with the ramblings of children. Don't expect me to reply past this point, I don't feel like wasting time on one such as you.

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#27 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: You mad? I'm not. 
#28 Posted by Billy Batson (58030 posts) - - Show Bio

Honey's mad.
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#29 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by herrweis (433 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe Pre dcnu dc universe has stated many many times that Superman & Wonder Woman are …

numbers 1 & 2 when it comes to power.not all kryptonians are number 1 then diana.

#31 Edited by FlagSister (95 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101 said:

@CitizenBane: You might have a case if she didn't hit WW with the stone. An artifact of immense power, that allows the user to do nearly anything. including change their structure and even the structure of others. The stone is glowing and it hits Diana. Period. If I hit you with my bare fist, it's not going to have the same effect as if I hit you with a brick in my hand. Game over. Please make special note of all the red energy flying around as PG hits WW. That's from the stone honey.

Yeah you are right. The stone was used to GAS wonder woman with cyanide before a possessed PowerGirl hit Wonder Woman while she was trying to hold up a ceiling.

@CitizenBane said:

The writer was Gail Simone. Nuff said.

Why is WW #41 the only thing people ever bring up? Kara was possessed by Dr. Alchemy in The Brave and the Bold #7, and there she one-shotted Wonder Woman. No one ever talks about that. Let's just talk about Power Girl losing to Wonder Woman in a fight written by Gail "Huntress can make Shiva sweat" Simone.

Additionally, this is on the wrong forum, adding "For Battle Threads" there in the title does not make it the right forum. This should be on either the PG or WW thread.

Also, the link doesn't work. Also, I hear KMC is nice these days. Hint, hint.

Did you read "Brave and the Bold #7" First Wonder Woman choking on cyanide and was holding up a collapsing roof while a possessed Power Girl sucker punched her and the roof collapse. I would not call that a One Shot.

#32 Posted by Angelique LeBeau (639 posts) - - Show Bio

@FlagSister: Excellent job filling in the context of what exactly happened. Anyway there are countless feats, character statements and examples of WW easily being stronger the PG. She's somewhere underneath Superman, Shazam, Darkseid and a few others, but PG aint one of em.

#33 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@FlagSister: LOL ok you totally settled this debate! Looks like GAIL SIMONE what right after all )

#34 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@Angelique LeBeau: I wouldn't even say Shazam. As she's already stalemated him in War of the gods. 
#35 Posted by Angelique LeBeau (639 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101:

I just threw his name in there for the sake of argument as to not get sidetrack as people start yelling about who is or isnt above/below her. This way the main point is not lost. That point being that PG aint in WW's strength league. She may be close, but its nothing substantially close.

#36 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@Angelique LeBeau: True. 
#37 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

so,wonder woman is stronger than powergirl?

sigh,this really Satire

#38 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer the term outclasses rather than stronger.

Wonder Woman out-classes Power-girl.

#39 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

@WDW said:

I prefer the term outclasses rather than stronger.

Wonder Woman out-classes Power-girl.

so,you think ww is stronger than PG?

#40 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438 said:

@WDW said:

I prefer the term outclasses rather than stronger.

Wonder Woman out-classes Power-girl.

so,you think ww is stronger than PG?

honestly I don't think the question of who is stronger is really relevant unless the situation is clearly defined. There are many instances where Power-girls abilities would be more useful or considered stronger than Wonder Woman's for example Power-Girl as a Kryptonian, does not need to breath or eat, her eye sight is much better than Wonder Woman's and so is her hearing.

However, for the most part people simply want to know who would win in a fight between the two and I would have to say Wonder Woman. She simply outclasses Power-Girl in terms of head to head combat.

#41 Posted by TAneT62 (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

@FlagSister said:

@fangirl101 said:

@CitizenBane: You might have a case if she didn't hit WW with the stone. An artifact of immense power, that allows the user to do nearly anything. including change their structure and even the structure of others. The stone is glowing and it hits Diana. Period. If I hit you with my bare fist, it's not going to have the same effect as if I hit you with a brick in my hand. Game over. Please make special note of all the red energy flying around as PG hits WW. That's from the stone honey.

Yeah you are right. The stone was used to GAS wonder woman with cyanide before a possessed PowerGirl hit Wonder Woman while she was trying to hold up a ceiling.

@CitizenBane said:

The writer was Gail Simone. Nuff said.

Why is WW #41 the only thing people ever bring up? Kara was possessed by Dr. Alchemy in The Brave and the Bold #7, and there she one-shotted Wonder Woman. No one ever talks about that. Let's just talk about Power Girl losing to Wonder Woman in a fight written by Gail "Huntress can make Shiva sweat" Simone.

Additionally, this is on the wrong forum, adding "For Battle Threads" there in the title does not make it the right forum. This should be on either the PG or WW thread.

Also, the link doesn't work. Also, I hear KMC is nice these days. Hint, hint.

Did you read "Brave and the Bold #7" First Wonder Woman choking on cyanide and was holding up a collapsing roof while a possessed Power Girl sucker punched her and the roof collapse. I would not call that a One Shot.

Summed it all up mate :D

#42 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

so,friend you still think ww stronger than PG?@TAneT62 said:

@FlagSister said:

@fangirl101 said:

@CitizenBane: You might have a case if she didn't hit WW with the stone. An artifact of immense power, that allows the user to do nearly anything. including change their structure and even the structure of others. The stone is glowing and it hits Diana. Period. If I hit you with my bare fist, it's not going to have the same effect as if I hit you with a brick in my hand. Game over. Please make special note of all the red energy flying around as PG hits WW. That's from the stone honey.

Yeah you are right. The stone was used to GAS wonder woman with cyanide before a possessed PowerGirl hit Wonder Woman while she was trying to hold up a ceiling.

@CitizenBane said:

The writer was Gail Simone. Nuff said.

Why is WW #41 the only thing people ever bring up? Kara was possessed by Dr. Alchemy in The Brave and the Bold #7, and there she one-shotted Wonder Woman. No one ever talks about that. Let's just talk about Power Girl losing to Wonder Woman in a fight written by Gail "Huntress can make Shiva sweat" Simone.

Additionally, this is on the wrong forum, adding "For Battle Threads" there in the title does not make it the right forum. This should be on either the PG or WW thread.

Also, the link doesn't work. Also, I hear KMC is nice these days. Hint, hint.

Did you read "Brave and the Bold #7" First Wonder Woman choking on cyanide and was holding up a collapsing roof while a possessed Power Girl sucker punched her and the roof collapse. I would not call that a One Shot.

Summed it all up mate :D

#43 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

i still belive supergirl or powergirl is stronger than wonder woman

#44 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio
@a88378438: Gail Simone has stated that Power Girl is Not. So you can believe what you want. The writer says no. 
#45 Posted by divingfalcon713 (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: In Supergirl: Power (the one that the scans of Kara with MM are from), Supergirl does hit Wonder Woman near the end, but it doesn't have much effect. And it is implied after that that Wonder Woman is strong enough to keep her subdued

#46 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

@divingfalcon713 said:

@a88378438: In Supergirl: Power (the one that the scans of Kara with MM are from), Supergirl does hit Wonder Woman near the end, but it doesn't have much effect. And it is implied after that that Wonder Woman is strong enough to keep her subdued

the supergirl destroy a moon just like superman,and In fact, WW not beat Supergirl, she just put her down.

@fangirl101 said:

@a88378438: Gail Simone has stated that Power Girl is Not. So you can believe what you want. The writer says no.

what powergirl?powergirl has Different power,the writer say ww stronger than pg is PG high-level or low level?

HUGE Different in PG strong level

#47 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

scan it,supergirl can destroy a moon i never see wonder woman can do this feats

#48 Posted by divingfalcon713 (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: Personally I think Wonder Woman is stronger. Kara in pre DCnU was still a teenager and hadn't reached the peak of her strength. As for feats, Wonder Woman helped pull a third of the Earth along with Superman and Martian Manhunter. Flying through a moon requires speed, which Supergirl has in spades, and density, which she also has being a Kryptonian. For me, it's not really a show of strength, but more her invulnerability and speed.

#49 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

@divingfalcon713:if wonder woman is stronger than pG,how do you can

To explain this?

ww say:PG at least as strong as me

not stronger than PG

#50 Posted by divingfalcon713 (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: The scan you posted shows Wonder Woman realizing that she can't talk PG out of whatever's wrong with her, and the next two pages show her subdue PG with ease. The book that scan is from, Wonder Woman: Contagion, is written by Gail Simone who said Power Girl isn't as strong as Wonder Woman.

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